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Old 04-16-2013, 03:35 PM   #4876
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How does what have anything to do with what?
I have no idea what is going on. Your ATG squats were awesome and I need to get mobile
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:36 PM   #4877
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Neek: See what I mean?
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:38 PM   #4878
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Why are you wasting time? Aren't you a doctor or supposed to be smart? Have you not learned from my mistakes and wasted efforts?
Why are you wasting yours? I know a little about ADH. You never cease to amaze
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:38 PM   #4879
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Pretty accurate.
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I am pretty hydrated but I am going to start ramping water up friday. 1.5-2gal of distilled water.
Why distilled?
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:39 PM   #4880
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Neek: See what I mean?
I don't care to explain. He knows what I meant and if he didn't he needs to read his own statement and use deductive reasoning.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:44 PM   #4881
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I don't care to explain. He knows what I meant and if he didn't he needs to read his own statement and use deductive reasoning.
1: Don't talk to me. You wasted my time, effort, didn't pay what you owed me, and took advantage of my friendliness. I have no time for you.

2: You burned a bridge with me, and did so convincingly enough that I'll take a minute or two to try to help someone else avoid the same mistake. I spent hours wasting time trying to help you when you weren't even paying attention.

3: Your post, like many of them, makes little to no sense. If you in fact know anything about ADH then Neek's post is self evident.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:47 PM   #4882
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:49 PM   #4883
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1: Don't talk to me. You wasted my time, effort, didn't pay what you owed me, and took advantage of my friendliness. I have no time for you.

2: You burned a bridge with me, and did so convincingly enough that I'll take a minute or two to try to help someone else avoid the same mistake. I spent hours wasting time trying to help you when you weren't even paying attention.

3: Your post, like many of them, makes little to no sense. If you in fact know anything about ADH then Neek's post is self evident.
1: I payed exactly what you asked. Never took advantage of you and I actually valued what friendship we had.

2: I'm sorry you feel that way

3: I understand what ADH does and it's roles.

4: we can agree to disagree on any of this but the fact is its water under the bridge and time to press on.

5: side note... I was hard to train, deal with and etc. Chris did a great job and would recommend his coaching to anyone reading.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:50 PM   #4884
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Why are you wasting time? Aren't you a doctor or supposed to be smart? Have you not learned from my mistakes and wasted efforts?
I'm a glutton for punishment.
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I have no idea what is going on. Your ATG squats were awesome and I need to get mobile
I asked Dave if he was well hydrated enough that he could suppress his renal production of ADH, thereby diuresing himself, without using any meds which can be good for 5-10 lbs of weight loss leading up to a weigh-in.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:58 PM   #4885
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1: I payed exactly what you asked. Never took advantage of you .
I'm an expert in mathematics and have an excellent memory. I could tell you all of your PR's, Lou's, Dave's, any of the 5 guys I trained with in Maine, my ex wife's, Steves, Grants, you name it. You're having trouble calculating what 90% of your 1 RM is for 5/3/1 type spreadsheets and can't remember what you did a month ago. I'm fairly certain I have a handle on finances and recall correctly.
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:01 PM   #4886
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whoa.
Don't even look at it. Just sit back, and watch the gains roll in.

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Old 04-16-2013, 04:04 PM   #4887
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Lies! You dip hams in honey for a living! This I know!
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3: I understand what ADH does and it's roles.
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If you do then your statement makes even less sense..
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:06 PM   #4889
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At the risk of possibly making somebody's head explode, here's my log for today:

Barbell Deadlift:
45 lb x 10 reps (+42 pts)
135 lb x 10 reps (+77 pts)
245 lb x 6 reps (+147 pts)
245 lb x 4 reps (+126 pts)
225 lb x 5 reps (+121 pts)
135 lb x 10 reps (+77 pts)
Crunch:
75 reps (+37 pts)
75 reps (+37 pts)
75 reps (+37 pts)
Leg Extensions:
125 lb x 10 reps (+18 pts)
125 lb x 10 reps (+18 pts)
125 lb x 10 reps (+18 pts)
Seated Leg Curl:
140 lb x 10 reps (+20 pts)
140 lb x 10 reps (+20 pts)
140 lb x 10 reps (+20 pts)
EZ-Bar Curl:
50 lb x 15 reps (+17 pts)
50 lb x 15 reps (+17 pts)
50 lb x 15 reps (+17 pts)
Lying Barbell Triceps Extension ("Skullcrusher"):
50 lb x 15 reps (+11 pts)
50 lb x 15 reps (+11 pts)
50 lb x 15 reps (+11 pts)
Machine Chest Fly (Pec Deck):
120 lb x 15 reps (+18 pts)
120 lb x 15 reps (+18 pts)
120 lb x 15 reps (+18 pts)

I wonder sometimes if I'm in the right thread, since I am coming at this from the "I want to be LESS big" angle - at least at the moment I'm definitely coming at this from a lot more of the "fitness" end than the "strength" end. I'm planning on doing a legit bulk next winter if I hit my weight goal in the interim. I'll probably be on a slow diet/cut until then, so I sort of doubt that I'll be smashing any huge new PRs in the meantime. Progress is still being made, though. I learn a lot in here, just some of it runs counter to present goals.

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Old 04-16-2013, 04:09 PM   #4890
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I may have missed this somewhere in the thread but, here goes.

I suck at deadlifts. ...or at least, sucked yesterday. Form went to hell apparentely and as a result, my lower back let me know immediately and is reminding me of that today. While I spent a portion of this morning watching some videos on how to deadlift properly to try and learn something, I'm still a little sore and inflexible (unflexible?). Tying my shoes is quite uncomfortable and I don't view this as normal. Now, I'm hoping that this is muscle related, not disc related, and therefore am asking for some stretches I can do to loosen things up a bit.

Yesterday's workout included:

3x195
3x225
3x250

The 225 set had me seeing a few stars (which happens rarely), the 250 set put me out. After this, I (foolishly?) went through my accessory sets at 170x10x5 and did my 10x5 hanging leg raises. After that, I ran 5 miles which made it feel better. Last night and this morning though, oof.

To put it in some perspective, last week included:

5 x 180
5 x 210
8 x 240

So yeah, I did something wrong. I'll try to get a video of the next one to see what specifically I'm doing wrong, but would appreciate any pointers in the interim on how to ease up my lower back.

*Edit* I'm just like you wrigh003. Getting a little smaller would be fine by me.
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:10 PM   #4891
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I'm leaning out too...I suddenly got the urge to go shoe shopping.
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:13 PM   #4892
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Haha this page definitely made me laugh..

Meh day
Squats
Barx10
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225x3
255x1
275x1

Cleans
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155x1
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:15 PM   #4893
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Me too I'm getting hyooge.

gt, stretch your hips/hams/psoas. Sounds like you're just sore.
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gt, stretch your hips/hams/psoas. Sounds like you're just sore.
This.....
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:19 PM   #4895
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I may have missed this somewhere in the thread but, here goes.

I suck at deadlifts. ...or at least, sucked yesterday. Form went to hell apparentely and as a result, my lower back let me know immediately and is reminding me of that today. While I spent a portion of this morning watching some videos on how to deadlift properly to try and learn something, I'm still a little sore and inflexible (unflexible?). Tying my shoes is quite uncomfortable and I don't view this as normal. Now, I'm hoping that this is muscle related, not disc related, and therefore am asking for some stretches I can do to loosen things up a bit.

Yesterday's workout included:

3x195
3x225
3x250

The 225 set had me seeing a few stars (which happens rarely), the 250 set put me out. After this, I (foolishly?) went through my accessory sets at 170x10x5 and did my 10x5 hanging leg raises. After that, I ran 5 miles which made it feel better. Last night and this morning though, oof.

To put it in some perspective, last week included:

5 x 180
5 x 210
8 x 240

So yeah, I did something wrong. I'll try to get a video of the next one to see what specifically I'm doing wrong, but would appreciate any pointers in the interim on how to ease up my lower back.
Video is worth 1000 posts. You didn't necessarily do anything wrong, or do any damage to yourself. It's natural when you feel discomfort to immediately think the worst. All the basics apply, advil, rest, stretching hamstrings and lower back (I like bands for this a lot and would NOT recommend foam rolling a sore lumbar spine), superman stretches, cobra stretches, hug your knees to your chest while lying on your back, hanging from the pullup bar. I like heat over ice in this scenario as well.
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Anyone have a good hip adductor stretch or set of stretches? I get significant pain in my right iliacus area throughout the day from an unrelated event and frankly the stuff my Physical Therapist recommended isn't doing ****
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Strength is the hardest component of fitness to develop. It takes years of dedicated effort to build any appreciable amount of strength. At minimum, it will take an average individual 5 years of training before they can be termed 'strong'. Once a person is strong, they will be able to maintain that strength, or some semblance thereof, for a long time.

Pops, for example, just pressed 425 and he is only screwing around and having fun! Yes, he busted he ass to bench 500 raw (setting a few WRs too). But after throttling back, he has retained a large portion of that strength.

Conditioning and cardio can be gained in a matter of months. It can just as quickly be lost too.

It doesn't matter if you're cutting or bulking. If you're lifting something, do it to be strong. There are other tools out there for GPP that are more efficient than lifting.
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:31 PM   #4898
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Anyone have a good hip adductor stretch or set of stretches? I get significant pain in my right iliacus area throughout the day from an unrelated event and frankly the stuff my Physical Therapist recommended isn't doing ****
Couch stretch should hit that. Iliacus is usually grouped together with psoas and a short front hip can often be the culprit. Band stretches for the hip might help too:

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You can do couch stretch sitting in a normal office chair, although you may look like a weirdo (I do it).

Also, been doing split stretches, really helps opening up the hips:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Y78mNlHcW0U
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:40 PM   #4900
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Cool, thanks.
What haaaaaaappened was I developed pretty bad plantar fasciitis in my right foot, and my body started adjusting my walk to compensate, and it ended up tensing up the muscles in my upper leg to the point where they were literally pulling my patella out of alignment
I got orthotics and PT, and everything is getting back to normal minus the adductor (and occasional glute) pain.
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