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Old 06-12-2019, 08:57 AM   #1
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News 2020 Subaru Forester

2020 Changes
  • New color - Magnetite Gray Metallic
  • LED license plate lamp
  • Rear seat reminder (same as in 2020 Ascent)



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Old 06-12-2019, 10:04 AM   #2
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No turbo, no care.

Actually, even with a turbo I might not care. I absolutely love my '17 FXTT.

Maybe... someday. But not soon. Almost kinda don't care one way or the other. There were reasons I changed models so much these last few years, every new one addressed issues I had with the last one. Now there's nothing new of interest. Engines still have the same "flaw" (DI carbonizing), only now all of them. Eyesight is essentially the same, with fluff I can do without. Body lines are, if anything, lacking in what appeals to me (given the little that matters in an SUV). Suspensions are a downgrade to mine as it sits.

In fact, there is no current model that mades me want to trade. The new Legacy turbo would have once, but its ground clearance is unacceptable. The new turbo Outback is no doubt a very nice vehicle, has all the goodies and ground clearance, but... my wife can't stand them, as revolting to her as some foods like mayo. Nope, nope, nope.

But this negativity toward new models doesn't apply to just Subarus. So I'm not apathetic because I've been jilted... I do not like the future panorama of automobiles in general. Any of them. Sad considering what they've meant to me all my life.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:30 AM   #3
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Grey vanilla. A new flavor of vanilla!
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:57 AM   #4
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The new Legacy turbo would have once, but its ground clearance is unacceptable.
Saw a Touring XT on the road yesterday. The exterior already looks very dated (reminded me of Nissan Altima on rental lots) . All the chrome s### on it is like lipstick on a pig. They should have spent time and money on exterior changes to go along with interior changes.
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Old 06-12-2019, 02:20 PM   #5
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After seeing more on the road, I'm not really feeling this new-gen styling either. That weird front fascia (largely due to the grille) and lobster claw tails... I actually think the final year of the last gen looked a lot better.

They actually list LED plate lamp as a change? What's next? Showcasing new and improved windshield washer fluid from the factory? lol
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Old 06-12-2019, 03:16 PM   #6
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They actually list LED plate lamp as a change? What's next? Showcasing new and improved windshield washer fluid from the factory? lol

Itís even better:

ďThe 2020 Forester will also feature a new LED license plate lamp that will come standard on Sport, Limited and Touring trims.Ē

SOLD
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Old 06-12-2019, 03:25 PM   #7
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No turbo, no care.

Actually, even with a turbo I might not care. I absolutely love my '17 FXTT.

Maybe... someday. But not soon. Almost kinda don't care one way or the other. There were reasons I changed models so much these last few years, every new one addressed issues I had with the last one. Now there's nothing new of interest. Engines still have the same "flaw" (DI carbonizing), only now all of them. Eyesight is essentially the same, with fluff I can do without. Body lines are, if anything, lacking in what appeals to me (given the little that matters in an SUV). Suspensions are a downgrade to mine as it sits.

In fact, there is no current model that mades me want to trade. The new Legacy turbo would have once, but its ground clearance is unacceptable. The new turbo Outback is no doubt a very nice vehicle, has all the goodies and ground clearance, but... my wife can't stand them, as revolting to her as some foods like mayo. Nope, nope, nope.

But this negativity toward new models doesn't apply to just Subarus. So I'm not apathetic because I've been jilted... I do not like the future panorama of automobiles in general. Any of them. Sad considering what they've meant to me all my life.
^This, mostly. I think it was Finnigan on Roadkill that said, "Every car should have a turbo" or something similar. As advanced as engine technology is there's simply no excuse for manufacturers to stick us with gutless, N/A 4-bangers.

I do like the OB and so does the Mrs., but we agree that the new Forester is ugly. The previous gen was much better. There are a few other brands I'd consider but it's mostly since I'm getting older and my tastes have changed. When my WRX is worn out, I may consider a turbo Legacy but will likely consider a BMW since my wife loves her 328 and it's so much nicer than my Subaru.
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Old 06-12-2019, 03:31 PM   #8
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Itís even better:

ďThe 2020 Forester will also feature a new LED license plate lamp that will come standard on Sport, Limited and Touring trims.Ē

SOLD
Game. Changer. lol

Couldn't even put it on the base too...
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Old 06-12-2019, 06:50 PM   #9
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An XT version of this front end would probably look really great...without the lobster-claw tails, of course! Unless of course this Sport IS the XT look.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:04 PM   #10
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I have never liked this refresh over the 14-18. Bigger, bloated, shaped all weird in weird places, stupid ass big grille, stupid ass taillights. And this is saying something, because I’ve never been totally in love with the 14-18 XT’s looks either, but they look a heck of a lot better than this. Don’t get me started on how ghey the Sport trim looks. Hideous, zero class, poor taste etc.
The ONLY thing I want is the new seats.
That said, if it had the new 24DIT plant, I’d already be driving one.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:06 PM   #11
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Bitch, bitch, bitch, hate, hate, hate.......



That said, if it had the new 24DIT plant, I’d already be driving one.
















Me, too....in four years
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:10 PM   #12
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Essentially no change. MGM/MG1 is already a color they have. Probably saving money just having one gray. Rear seat reminder is nothing. LED plate lights have been a JDM accessory for years and probably been standard for a minute.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:11 PM   #13
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Subarus have ALWAYS been a function over form thing for most, save maybe the later model EJ STIs. They look better than they drive. Long in the tooth and fresh out of function.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:29 PM   #14
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Let's hope the 2020 WRX updates are as extensive as this one.
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Old 06-13-2019, 12:56 AM   #15
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2020 Changes
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  • LED license plate lamp
  • Rear seat reminder (same as in 2020 Ascent)
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I'm not really feeling this new-gen styling...
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Old 06-13-2019, 02:42 AM   #16
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Subaru sucks at wheel designs.

Except when choosing Enkei or BBS wheels.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:03 AM   #17
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Subaru sucks at wheel designs.

Except when choosing Enkei or BBS wheels.
Agreed!

Case in point:


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Let's hope the 2020 WRX updates are as extensive as this one.
LOL!

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Old 06-13-2019, 08:10 AM   #18
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Well poo. Was hoping for an XT model in 2020.

Do I drag our ‘09 Forester XT through another year in hopes of 2021, or do I give up and consider a Mazda CX-5 Signature, (227 hp 310 lb/ft)? I’m thinking the latter.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:13 AM   #19
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Well poo. Was hoping for an XT model in 2020.

Do I drag our Ď09 Forester XT through another year in hopes of 2021, or do I give up and consider a Mazda CX-5 Signature, (227 hp 310 lb/ft)? Iím thinking the latter.


That Mazda is a good looking ride man. I wonít debate that. And the torque is where itís at in a suv. Mazdaís been steady upping their game.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:18 AM   #20
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I really need to drive one of those things...
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:37 AM   #21
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That Mazda is a good looking ride man. I wonít debate that. And the torque is where itís at in a suv. Mazdaís been steady upping their game.
I have a 2018 2.0 skyactiv CX5. Has 'o torque either. 200Nm and 165hp. The turbo 2.5 is not available in Europe. We can't pay the tax neither if it would come. But do not worry, Mazda does not have dealerships like Subaru has in USA. Every month they drop. I have read they will focus on being premium now. Up the prices. They even hot a new Mazda Amerika president. He is transfered from Europe where Mazda is doing good.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:47 AM   #22
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Subaru sucks at wheel designs.

Except when choosing Enkei or BBS wheels.
I didn't hate the 2006-2007 wrx wheels, and the 2011-2014 wrx wheels were nice, 2016 crosstrek optional "STi" wheels were decent, although black in color which I'm not into. Yep so basically, three OEM wheels in 50 years have been acceptable.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:32 AM   #23
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I didn't hate the 2006-2007 wrx wheels, and the 2011-2014 wrx wheels were nice, 2016 crosstrek optional "STi" wheels were decent, although black in color which I'm not into. Yep so basically, three OEM wheels in 50 years have been acceptable.
I believe Enkei designed the 2011-2014 WRX wheels, and 2011 base STI wheels. Plus the 2007 STI Limited wheels. Obviously BBS was STI from 2004 through the Limited wheels on at least the 2008-2014 STI. And Enkei has designed the recent black STI optional wheels for Crosstrek, Impreza, BRZ and WRX.

Any of the heavy, machine-faced, chunky wheels I've seen I contribute to Subaru design. Then you have your standard, boring alloy wheels. 2015 WRX/STI are heavy and atrocious as well.
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Old 06-13-2019, 10:07 AM   #24
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Those wheels look like those ultra-cheap, just above steel wheels designs you see people use for winter wheel/tire sets. Just may be the worst looking OEM SUV wheels I have ever seen. This is a major screw up when you consider that wheels play a big role in overall appearance of a vehicle. Looks very, very cheap.

I really feel Subaru exterior designs are starting to lag relative to the competition as this is just not a good looking SUV. It’s safe like they basically carried over last gen design on a high carb diet with an updated front end that’s not exactly handsome. It’s almost like Toyota and Subaru swapped design studios of late as one is making interesting looking vehicles while the other has gone ultra-bland making only incremental changes from generation to generation.

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Old 06-13-2019, 10:31 AM   #25
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Subarus have ALWAYS been a function over form thing for most, save maybe the later model EJ STIs. They look better than they drive. Long in the tooth and fresh out of function.
I disagree. Going back to the 80’s they always stood out for their quirky styling. Sometimes handsome in a weird way like the XT or SVX and sometime flat out weird and ugly such as the bug eye Impreza and Tribeca. It’s only been the last decade where they have started to make their entire lineup look bland. WRX’s now look pretty anonymous and even the STI is bland as if it wasn’t for the spoiler you would barely notice it in a lineup of generic compact cars. It’s pretty obvious we are starting to see Toyota influence bleed into the brand.

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