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Old 07-24-2017, 11:46 PM   #1
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I know this is probably premature but has anyone had any issues with the new 2018 wrx models.

I'm asking this because I have a 2015 Wrx and have had a ton of issues. 3 throwout bearing failures in the clutch. 2 radios, a/c compressor and blower. I really love the car and driving experience but the build quality scares me. My father has a 15 wrx and he's gone through 2 throwout bearings also. I notice a number of tsb's.

Did they make major changes to the clutch and the transmission syncros. I really would like a 18 WRX limited but if they did not make major changes to the parts and or build quality I would probably switch brands. My family owns imprezas and foresters and never had a lot of issues. But both of the 15 wrx's my family has gone through 5 clutch throw out bearings in 80,000 miles combined... So you can see why I'm leary.

TLR had a 15 with a bunch of mechanical issues covered by tsb's, my father had a 15 with a bunch of mechincal issues covered by tsb's. Did subaru fix most of this with the model refresh?
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Old 07-25-2017, 08:25 AM   #2
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It's way too early in the 18 year models to ask reliability questions and even if there was a reliability issue the warranty would cover anything.

There is a thread called No Issues in which people are posting things like 50k+ miles no problems at all and with mods.. Or bone stock and still going strong at 30k. But we are only like 2% probably of 15+ WRX owners so we don't even mean anything in the statistics of reliability.

I know personally my 17 is still doing great. Sometimes I can hear the throw-out bearing whine a little after a cold start but I am not hearing any truly concerning sounds in the transmission. But I only have about 12k miles.

My advice, don't expect any answer to your question until 2020 about the 2018's reliability.
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Old 07-25-2017, 08:57 AM   #3
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Did they make major changes to the clutch and the transmission syncros. I really would like a 18 WRX limited but if they did not make major changes to the parts and or build quality I would probably switch brands. My family owns imprezas and foresters and never had a lot of issues. But both of the 15 wrx's my family has gone through 5 clutch throw out bearings in 80,000 miles combined... So you can see why I'm leary.

TLR had a 15 with a bunch of mechanical issues covered by tsb's, my father had a 15 with a bunch of mechincal issues covered by tsb's. Did subaru fix most of this with the model refresh?

You will be happy to know that Subaru at least redesigned the TOB and it's within the TSB 03-78-17 and the new part was changed within the 2017 production run. So hopefully the redesigned part holds up better than the original.

Still need it fixed on my 2016 WRX as already had it replaced once but it was with the old part.

Wouldn't have minded it too much if it was just noise in the mornings but it graduated to making noise all the time and getting a "gritty" feel when using the clutch.

I would hope all the other TSBs would be rolled into the 2018s though, but have no idea. The 2018 press release have notes about improved synchros and clutch feel though.
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Old 07-25-2017, 09:30 AM   #4
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Wouldn't have minded it too much if it was just noise in the mornings but it graduated to making noise all the time and getting a "gritty" feel when using the clutch.
gritty feeling, yes that's how to describe it. I've had that problem since day one (34k miles). a couple months ago it started sometimes making one clack per rpm, sometimes two, but it hasn't done it in a couple days.
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Old 07-25-2017, 10:13 AM   #5
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gritty feeling, yes that's how to describe it. I've had that problem since day one (34k miles). a couple months ago it started sometimes making one clack per rpm, sometimes two, but it hasn't done it in a couple days.
Sounds like yours is failing, you should take it to a dealer.

My friend has a 60k mile 2015 and is having TOB noise. They took it to a dealer they told him to talk to SOA about covering it. He called them, they authorized inspection, appointment is pending for that at the moment.

FWIW Their car is "moderately modded" TBE, tgv,egr, tmic, but not slammed with silly wheels and festooned in stickers. Also, this was a notoriously "mod friendly" dealer.
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Old 07-25-2017, 07:38 PM   #6
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Glad I'm not the only one with all these problems in my 15. 4 throw out bearings, 5th being the redesign that just got put in, 2 radios, replaced clutch assembly, predetonation (2 tune recalls), broken pitch mount twice now (first time they just booger welded it, now it's broke), probably something else. Lol. My buddy has a 17 with no problems that I've had. Making me think of getting rid of mine too, but not for a wrx....
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Old 07-25-2017, 09:39 PM   #7
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Water pump went bad for me at 11K, that was fun. Other than that no complaints and I love the car.
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:48 PM   #8
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First 18's rolled out in late May its way too early to tell
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Old 07-26-2017, 11:48 AM   #9
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I know this is probably premature but has anyone had any issues with the new 2018 wrx models.

I'm asking this because I have a 2015 Wrx and have had a ton of issues. 3 throwout bearing failures in the clutch. 2 radios, a/c compressor and blower. I really love the car and driving experience but the build quality scares me. My father has a 15 wrx and he's gone through 2 throwout bearings also. I notice a number of tsb's.

Did they make major changes to the clutch and the transmission syncros. I really would like a 18 WRX limited but if they did not make major changes to the parts and or build quality I would probably switch brands. My family owns imprezas and foresters and never had a lot of issues. But both of the 15 wrx's my family has gone through 5 clutch throw out bearings in 80,000 miles combined... So you can see why I'm leary.

TLR had a 15 with a bunch of mechanical issues covered by tsb's, my father had a 15 with a bunch of mechincal issues covered by tsb's. Did subaru fix most of this with the model refresh?
Was your your AC compressor and Blower actually bad, or did they just make noise. It is "normal" for our blower motors to be loud and make a ticking sound. Also, or Valeo AC Compressors are also quite noisy. Was your TOB really bad, or just making noise for the first few min, like they all do.

I have several minor and common annoyance "issues" with my 2016, but no real component failures. I think they are just a Subaru thing, and doubt they addressed them in the 2018s

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1. Clunk in Front Driverside Suspension when going over bumps and dips (Still un-diagnosed/fixed. Not caused by tophat)

2. Clunk in steering rack when stopped, or moving slowly, and moving the steering wheel back and fourth. (Not fixed, likely excessive lash in the steering rack worm gear drive, will likely require a new steering rack)

3. Knocking in the clutch pedal, 2 when pressing down and 2 when releasing. (There is a TSB for this, but according to my VIN, I already have the updated pedal assembly)

4. Noisy TOB for the first few min on a moist day (I don't have the revised part. It is just a minor annoyance and won't replace unless it starts failing, not worth the risk of having the dealer tear apart my car)

5. Noisy AC Compressor on the first few min of use (Buzzing/hissing noise, from my understanding, this is a normal "Feature" of our Valeo compressors)

6. Ticking Blower Motor (Barley noticeable unless on higher settings, may address with the Crosstek sound deadened cover)

Everything else on the car is solid. No oil consumption, or anything that effects the driveability.

Really, there are so many good things the WRX has, that no other car does, especially in its price range. I think the good far outweighs the problems with the car, and most problems can be addressed with some work. If you want to own one, I think you really have to decide for yourself if you can live with these minor annoyances/noises, because with a Subaru, you are going to likely have them.

I font' know all the details of the issues you had, but my guess would be that you really didn't need to replace the TOB, AC Compressor, or Blower motor. These components on our cars make noises from the factory, which appear to be bad, but actually aren't.
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Old 07-26-2017, 11:54 AM   #10
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I can testify that someone I know has not had issues with his 2018 since he got it almost a month ago.
So your good to go on that one, no issues.
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Old 07-26-2017, 12:22 PM   #11
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Aww crap.

My 2017 has been feeling "gritty" on cold starts too...~3k miles. The thought of a failing throw out bearing crossed my mind but I refused to believe it. So this is a thing. Great.
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Old 07-26-2017, 12:53 PM   #12
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I have a 2015 wrx, and I have had no problems other than the air conditioning, which surprises me. I have never had a car have the ac go out on my before, especially not this new. They definitely did something wrong here. First, the servicing was too low, now it blows warm unless I turn the fan all the way to the highest setting. Weird.
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Old 07-26-2017, 10:52 PM   #13
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Aww crap.



My 2017 has been feeling "gritty" on cold starts too...~3k miles. The thought of a failing throw out bearing crossed my mind but I refused to believe it. So this is a thing. Great.


These forums plays with your mind lol.

Bearings making noise never sounds like a normal thing and this being my first Subaru, I almost managed to convince myself that the horrendous racket it made most mornings was fine. Then it started to make them randomly even when fully warmed. I wasn't cool with that at all and had it replaced (with the same part though as it was before the TSB)

Of course I have no idea how long it could have lasted as I was told the removed bearing looked fine. Maybe it would have held on for 100,000s miles or 1,000. I rather not find out first hand the failure point though and figured this is the point of having a warranty to replace faulty parts. But the OP with3 replacements... wow!
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:37 AM   #14
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2018 WRX Premium, 1 month, 1700 miles. No issues so far. First FA though. Coming from an 02 Forester S and an 05 WRX before that. Feels like a much more solid vehicle than either of those, and no catastrophic failures on those either. Just minor rattles and such. Headgaskets on the Forester at 115k but that was the only major repair.
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Old 07-27-2017, 07:17 AM   #15
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2015 WRX with 31K. I've progressively added more and more mods to the car over time, now I'm at stage 2+ (all bolt ons minus a new intercooler). Downpipe went on at 30K when I put in new fluids and plugs. Aside from random rough idling, the car runs great. The idle issue comes and goes, can't seem to find the cause and it's not consistent enough for me to tear into the car. My TOB makes some noise on start up, but my clutch feels fine. Zero oil consumption and I change it every 3-4K miles. I may switch to 5w40 next time just for added protection. But I don't beat on my car and most of the time on my commute for work I don't even go into boost. I stay out of high-gear-high-boost situations; I'll even downshift to 5th going uphill on the highway. 33-34 mpg indicated and 99% of the time the car drives very smoothly. 2nd e-tune by CTT. I've always wanted a Corvette but the utility and value of a Subaru is really hard to beat.
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Old 07-27-2017, 07:47 AM   #16
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Bone stock 2017 Base w/25K miles. Aside from an annoying hum from the rear of the car and occasional chirp from cold TOB no problems.
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Old 07-27-2017, 01:24 PM   #17
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1 month and 2700 miles on my 2018 WRX Base. Zero issues so far, but as others have stated, way too early to determine reliability for the 2018 MY.
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:38 PM   #18
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my 2015 has been fine. I had the clutch and throwout bearing replaced last year under warranty (26k miles) but I'm also certain that it was a result of me beating the **** out of my clutch. The clutch on this car is a lot more aggressive than any other car I've owned.
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Old 07-31-2017, 12:14 PM   #19
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I have a 2015 and haven't had any problems. I've got ~29k miles and had it since May 14'. I did take it to get reflashed by the dealer once after receiving notification from Subaru, although wasn't experiencing any issue
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Old 08-01-2017, 04:17 PM   #20
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I should prob start driving my 2016 more if I expect to get things fixed before the warranty runs out...just hit 15k and 2 years of ownership and not a single issue besides the cold thowout bearing noise, interior rattles and my leather wearing on the drivers seat.

I should start paying attention to the issues but I am having too much fun driving it.
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Old 08-04-2017, 06:37 PM   #21
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2015 wrx premium stage 2 70k miles and no issues and 2016 wrx limited 37k miles stage 2 and no issues
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Old 08-05-2017, 09:10 AM   #22
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How long has your 2015 been stage 2?
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Old 08-05-2017, 11:58 AM   #23
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Realistically if you're on a modest stage 2 tune, your car should be pretty reliable it seems. These motors are much more consistent than the EJs.

Push it and it breaks. EJs can break pushed or not- big power or not. I have seen EJs last 140k with big turbos before. FAs break when pushed or big power.

However you don't see as many blown up stock/1/2 level FAs as you do EJs
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Old 08-06-2017, 01:02 AM   #24
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I see a lot of people in this place saying that you shouldn't complain about TOB noise or rattles etc. on your brand new car which is BS. Just because the car is good value it doesn't mean you should accept any quality issues.

That being said, these are very reliable cars. Try owning a VW group car if you want to see true reliability issues.

Buy it and drive it hard as you like minus constant launching and keep any mods realistic.
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Old 08-06-2017, 01:53 PM   #25
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After 25K miles I am edging closer to just driving my '17 stock engine wise. And throwing some money at suspension. It is an absolute blast on the mountain twisties around here and returns good fuel economy on my too long work commute. I'd sure love 400 horsepower but for sick acceleration I've got a literbike and a couple open class MX bikes in the garage.
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