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Old 12-22-2018, 04:57 PM   #1
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Has anyone heard of this? I use NXT 2.0 liquid and spray wax with great success and found them to be better than Zaino. Could this be a cheap, ghetto, easy-to-use replacement for real ceramic coating? I doubt the results are the same as say Ceramic Pro but it might be worth it.

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Old 12-23-2018, 12:40 AM   #2
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Side by side when looking at unwaxed vs Meguiar's, the waxed side repels water really well and has a nice shine. But don't expect it to perform better than regular wax other than to extend the amount of time between waxing. You don't notice any difference in the look when you layer it onto a surface that already has regular wax.
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Old 12-23-2018, 09:40 AM   #3
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It's a brand new product for 2019, just arrived in most stores this month. So the number of actual users may be limited. Myself, I have two bottles at the shop waiting. I'm planning to apply it this coming week as I'm off from the usual biz and I can try the product on several of my own cars before I start rolling it out to customers. That being said, my opinion is categorizing it in the protection enhancers. Meguiar's reps have said that it does really well on top of existing wax/sealant. So if you have time to do a full fledge wash/clay/polish/wax process twice a year, then this product seems to fit perfectly as a monthly boost, or quarterly. And other than the initial application that may take a little longer, it's so quick and almost effortless!

It's interesting to compare it to other Sio2 type products on the market, CarPro Hydro2, Gyeon WetCoat, HydroSilex Recharge, … Meguiar's has the ability to produce and market at a much better price. I'm confident it will be a regular in my shop.
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Old 12-23-2018, 09:44 AM   #4
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Please do a report. Interested to see how it does.
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Old 12-25-2018, 03:59 PM   #5
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Meguiars ultimate fast finish is better for longevity (according to meguiars) and easier to apply (in my personal experience). Like mentioned above, it is similar to hydro2 and wetcoat. It is a great product but I think depending on the type of product you want to use and how often you want to address it, it may or may not work for your needs. Luckily inlive in SoCal and have some friends at meguiars so picking up a bottle was easy for me. Mine hasnít been on long enough to test durability yet
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Old 01-06-2019, 12:30 AM   #6
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Anyone got any more on this?
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Old 01-06-2019, 12:33 AM   #7
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Meguiars ultimate fast finish is better for longevity (according to meguiars) and easier to apply (in my personal experience). Like mentioned above, it is similar to hydro2 and wetcoat. It is a great product but I think depending on the type of product you want to use and how often you want to address it, it may or may not work for your needs. Luckily inlive in SoCal and have some friends at meguiars so picking up a bottle was easy for me. Mine hasnít been on long enough to test durability yet
How does it do with dirt? Does dirt come off easier, like with rain or a simple wash off like real ceramic coating?
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Old 01-06-2019, 11:22 AM   #8
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The Meguiars is really new and has very little reviews so far - looks like a nice consumer OTC product for protection / ease of use.

Mothers also has a similar product that is rumored to be equal in ease of use...

http://www.mothers.com/02_products/01024.html
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Old 01-06-2019, 01:29 PM   #9
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I'll give an update, although it's a premature one. My plan to try it on a few of my personal cars over the Christmas break fell through. So I did a quick trial on my daily dog hauler just the other day.

Attempting to take Meguiar's advice and apply the "first" coat by wiping/drying the surface with a microfiber after spraying product, I found out the first mistake many will make. I believe I used too much product. First I'll preface this by stating that we routinely use a jelly blade to knock off 80-90% of the water on cars then quickly blot up the remaining water. So for us to go from habitually blotting a small amount of water, to now having to wipe/rub the surface with a ton of water, and try to uniformly spread the Ceramic Wax, it was a difficult change of habit. There's something odd about trying to dry water from the surface and at the same time spread a product uniformly and finish with a streak free finish. Needless to say, we ended up with streaks! A lot of them! It didn't look bad in the shop under lights but once it was pulled outside, into a mostly cloudy but bright sky, it looked horrible.


Sorry to give a less than stellar review. But as I said, this is premature. I think the spray and spread with water might be the routine that works best here. I'll try that next on a car or two, as well as try to perfect the "wipe and dry" method. There is a video out there where someone used a method of application more like the Ultimate Fast Finish is done. That will also be something I'll try soon.

Takeaway: use Ceramic Wax sparingly no matter which method of application you choose.
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Old 01-08-2019, 05:04 PM   #10
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How does it do with dirt? Does dirt come off easier, like with rain or a simple wash off like real ceramic coating?
yes and no. It beads really well like a ceramic coating does. I don't know the exact contact angle like those mentioned with a traditional ceramic coating which is typically around 110 degrees. With that said, yes it is easier to clean vs a car that has been waxed. It is not as easy as a ceramic coated car though where you almost only need a strong stream of water to knock off 90% of the dirt.

This product is very similar to gyeon wet coat. Look up reviews on that and you can get a good indication of what to expect. I found that gyeon acts more like a true ceramic where meguiars acts like the name says, a hybrid of ceramic and wax which makes it a little more forgivable in a multitude of applications but can still streak.
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Old 01-24-2019, 04:02 PM   #11
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Would you say that you have to be already pretty good at detailing a car before you can use this product? It does not sound very easy to use.
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:19 PM   #12
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I have ceramic on one car, and wax other two. I use car pro which is like the above spray type. They all work well if you keep up (even plain wax). I have found using two different ceramic coatings that they do not hold up as long as advertised , not even close unless the car never gets dirty, wet or salt covered. And they are time consuming to apply. The good thing about the spray is you can do a whole car in minutes. When the paint is clean on a car it will repel water and bead no matter the product applied afterwards. Science keeps getting better and better. I like the idea with a spray when drying product because you can build a nice coating by just using when you wash/dry.
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:22 PM   #13
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:19 AM   #14
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I'm a big fan of CarPro Hydr02 and Reload in-between coats. They last longer than a traditional was, but not years when daily driven
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I looked into this Megs Hybrid, and it seems that its just a silicon/silica type spray. No wax involved.

I love Reload. For me, it lasts about 3 months on a single application. Due to the simplicity of it, I reapply once a month and it keeps the car very slick and glossy all year round. Water just slides off. Using a leaf blower, car dries up completely without me touching it.

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Reload makes it look glossy, but not reflective. I need to polish tha tpaint
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I just coated my car with the Meguiar's Hybrid ceramix wax this weekend and ran into the same issue as HCAutoDetail mentioned. Basically, I used too much product since the first application on your vehicle just requires you to spray the ceramic wax onto the wet car and simply dry off (the second application of hybrid ceramic wax can simply be sprayed onto the wet vehicle, and then you spray the vehicle again with water so it "spreads" the remaining product across the vehicle).

Anyway, after drying my vehicle with the ceramic wax, I noticed some streaks so what I did was completely rinsed off my microfiber towel I used for drying (lots of the ceramic wax came off as I rinsed/wringed it). Then I went back over all panels and windows with a slightly damp microfiber and basically wiped the whole car clean. After this second "damp" wipe, the car looked phenomenal and even gave it a "wet" look.

We got some rain in SoCal yesterday and supposed to get more this weekend but I haven't gotten a drop of rain on my car yet due to my home and work garages both having complete coverage so hopefully after the weekend I can share some thorough results post-rain.
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That’s too bad. I had high hopes for this. I guess I’ll stick to NXT 2.0.
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I just saw a review on YouTube with this and 2 others, Adams and bead makers I believe. They were applied and then a series of degreasers were sprayed to see the longevity. By the end the guy said they all weren’t what he was hoping for. None of them held up well. I’ll try to find the review it seemed well done.

I can’t seem to link it, but the reviewer is a guy named Pan the Organizer. I searched his name and it’s about 15 down from the top.
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I just saw a review on YouTube with this and 2 others, Adams and bead makers I believe. They were applied and then a series of degreasers were sprayed to see the longevity. By the end the guy said they all werenít what he was hoping for. None of them held up well. Iíll try to find the review it seemed well done.

I canít seem to link it, but the reviewer is a guy named Pan the Organizer. I searched his name and itís about 15 down from the top.
Yeah, I saw that video too. I did cquartz uk 2.0 or 3.0 last fall on the wife's car and just did a wipe down with Reload not too long ago.

Here's the video you're referring to:

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Having used this a few more times, I think I've gotten the hang of it. Lol.

After washing and rinsing the car, while still wet, we sprayed a light amount of the Ceramic Wax on a panel and wiped it in with a microfiber. Our purpose here was to get even coverage, NOT to dry the vehicle. After wiping a complete panel and feeling like it had been covered completely, we then blast rinse the panel with water, further spreading the Ceramic Wax around the panel. Each panel was alternately done leaving the car as a whole still wet. THEN we started the drying process with air blowing off most of the water and did a final dry with the large drying microfiber waffle weave towels.

It's a pretty quick process that will give you a boost of protection over your existing wax. I don't plan to offer it as a stand alone wax protection, just a booster during maintenance washes. The price is right.
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It works really well to bead rain, but Iíve found that after you use Megs soap, it severely cuts the beading. Idk if that is breaking the wax down or if that is supposed to happen
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It works really well to bead rain, but Iíve found that after you use Megs soap, it severely cuts the beading. Idk if that is breaking the wax down or if that is supposed to happen
It's hard to completely rinse some soaps away depending on your water. I haven't tried the Meg's hybrid coating, but it appears to act like a traditional coating with diminished lifespan. I would imagine, gold class leaves just enough behind to not get the same water reaction. This happens when using gold class on my cquartz uk vehicles. Try CarPro Reset. It is the best soap I've found for coated vehicles. It's easier to rinse than told class as well.
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How's this work in a power washer?
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:58 PM   #24
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How's this work in a power washer?
not sure if I am completely misunderstanding your question, but are you inquiring if the product being discussed would work in a soap dispenser built into a pressure washer? Or in a foam cannon perhaps? Either way, NO it will not work in either of those situations. Would you put any type of wax or coating (yes I know this is an extreme example) into either of those two dispersing methods? I should hope the answer is no. There are very clear instructions on how to use the product (they are extremely simple and quick btw). If your question was "can I use a pressure washer to rinse after using this product"...yes, yes you can.
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