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07-20-2016, 12:47 PM | #26 |
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07-20-2016, 04:27 PM | #27 |
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07-20-2016, 05:05 PM | #28 |
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We have lots of parts in progress We cant keep up! lol
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07-21-2016, 06:02 PM | #29 |
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07-21-2016, 06:35 PM | #30 |
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07-21-2016, 07:44 PM | #31 |
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07-21-2016, 07:50 PM | #32 | |
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What's the price, KillerB? |
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07-21-2016, 09:54 PM | #33 |
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07-21-2016, 09:58 PM | #34 |
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07-22-2016, 10:35 AM | #35 | |
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Price... probably $999 and $1,390 with EWGs You'll probably eventually see them priced from $500 on up on ebay (maybe less), made from 304SS and with cheap overseas labor. Like anything in life the quality will reflect the price, but not everyone cares about that. We cater to the other people Thanks! I wish I could take credit for the welds. We have some very talented craftsmen here that really take pride in their work. |
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07-22-2016, 10:49 AM | #36 |
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07-22-2016, 11:34 AM | #37 | |
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07-22-2016, 11:41 AM | #38 |
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07-22-2016, 11:44 AM | #39 |
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07-22-2016, 12:18 PM | #40 |
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07-22-2016, 02:03 PM | #41 | ||||
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The turbo flange is for the OEM turbo. If you want a T3, you'd be looking at our turbo kit that has an OEM to T3 adapter with the WG ports too (T4 coming soon I hope) and running any Garrett GTX30/35 you'd like. The markets will decide this. I design the parts to the best of my abilities and resources. If the markets want them, we make them. If not, we won't or will stop making them. The thing that's great about enthusiast feedback like this, on these forums, is that it helps with the direction a product will go... or won't go. The more feedback the better as far as I'm concerned. |
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07-22-2016, 03:17 PM | #42 |
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Seems like a lot of money to spend on a part the manufacture claims isn't really worth it.
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07-22-2016, 03:37 PM | #43 | |
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But I wouldn't criticize them for the price point, they did ask if people wanted this produced, even with minimal gains predicted(and IIRC, multiple people asked for this). |
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07-22-2016, 04:18 PM | #44 |
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lol, me too. The fact of the matter is that it's not up to us. If the market wants these, they'll pay for them. I do hold hope that the EWG version will provide additional gains though.
When I first designed the Holy Header for the EJ's I thought "No one will pay $1,500 for a set of headers, that's crazy!" but after customers ran them and shared/posted, they caught on, regardless of the price. IMO the design is sound, and we know the materials and craftsmanship are good. I will reach out to another shop and see if I can get an independent test setup. Not on our car, not with us present, and see where it leads us. Sound like a good idea? |
07-23-2016, 08:25 PM | #45 | |
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07-23-2016, 09:33 PM | #46 | |
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This is where I mention heat, and the retainment of, in such headers. The special hand-formed (my hands) metallic shielding for my APS were part of why they increased not only power, but spooled earlier as well. Heat shielding isn't an issue on the track as much as it is in day-to-day, when the manifold gets cool(er). So... just wondering what your recommendations are concerning your header... is heat retention a factor, or not. |
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09-07-2016, 08:06 PM | #47 |
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I recently installed a RD Engineering ceramic coated header on my 2016 WRX. At the same time I used a die grinder to port match the turbine housing to the gasket, which is approx the same size as the header outlet. The stock turbo turbine inlet size was 35.5mm. Gasket is 42mm. Outlet on the RD header was a tick under 42mm. The outlet of the factory manifold has a restriction before the flange that measures 33mm. I port matched, then blended back about 15-20mm. I wrapped the header, and covered the oil pan with gold heat tape. I was a bit worried about heat management after seeing how well the factory manifold is insulated. I have seen no change to oil or water temps after install. In short I picked up a bunch under the curve. About 50ft/lbs of torque. According to the tuner, she had more, but I was pushing the limits of the stock rods. Per the shop, on the same dyno a stock 2015 WRX makes 180hp at the wheels. It now makes 294 hp and 325ft/lbs. I don't have a stock base line to show of my car. But what I do have is a before and after dyno of the header install. The lower reading was when it was pro tuned before header/port work. The higher is after header and ported turbine housing & pro tune. Boost response is improved as well.
Mod List: Cobb Pro tuned AEM Water Meth with 250cc nozzle using 20% rubbing alcohol Cobb Intake Cobb J Pipe, wrapped RD Enginnering Ceramic Coated header, wrapped Nameless cat back with muffler delete, wrapped back to the Y pipe Misimoto TMIC TGV Deletes EGR Delete Grimspeed 3 port BCS Turbosmart BPV Turbosmart IWG Ported Turbine Housing (inlet only) Before & After Dyno Stock Port Size Port Match Work in Progress Gasket Oil Pan Gold Tape Work Stock Manifold RD Manifold You Tube Link of Dyno Run https://youtu.be/8zQ57ny2Ugw Last edited by racingincident; 09-07-2016 at 10:14 PM. |
09-08-2016, 01:22 AM | #48 |
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Thanks for the write up!
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09-08-2016, 01:32 AM | #49 |
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Great results above.
Here are the independent test results from the Killer B header, both IWG and EWG: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2803482 |
09-08-2016, 10:27 AM | #50 |
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@racingincident - First of all, that looks fantastic dude! Is that a cat in the downpipe that you wrapped? I'm considering doing wrap on my DP, but I've heard conflicting things about wrapping cats... what are your thoughts?
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