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Old 05-24-2023, 03:11 PM   #10301
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I've had four sets of gun metal wheels. I'm so over it, but they're better than black wheels. I'm looking at a set of black machine face wheels right now.

But also a set of gun metal wheels too.
I'm not into machine face wheels at all. I like the design on those though.

Digging those gunmetal ones though. And the design looks like it would be easy to clean, which is always a selling point for me

Black wheels are not acceptable either, although my crosstrek had a set of the optional crosstrek STI wheels, which were black gloss. So I guess there are exceptions.
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Old 05-24-2023, 03:19 PM   #10302
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Those are some ugly wheels boy, the black ones are better but, ****!
They make the machined ones in all black. I'm open to suggestions of non-3-piece wheels in 19x8.5 5x100 +35/+40 offset. Not as easy as one would think. Do you yield to my challenge?

And definitely do not suggest RPF1s, TE37s, or any other wack, played out choices, my guy.
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I'm not into machine face wheels at all. I like the design on those though.

Digging those gunmetal ones though. And the design looks like it would be easy to clean, which is always a selling point for me

Black wheels are not acceptable either, although my crosstrek had a set of the optional crosstrek STI wheels, which were black gloss. So I guess there are exceptions.
Pretty much all STI wheels are acceptable to me. I just don't like their offset. So my design preferences lean towards what an OEM Subaru or STI wheel would look like in better size or offset.
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Old 05-24-2023, 06:28 PM   #10303
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I'm not into machine face wheels at all. I like the design on those though.

Digging those gunmetal ones though. And the design looks like it would be easy to clean, which is always a selling point for me

Black wheels are not acceptable either, although my crosstrek had a set of the optional crosstrek STI wheels, which were black gloss. So I guess there are exceptions.
Now it makes sense why you got a VB, you had a crosstrek !
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Old 05-24-2023, 07:04 PM   #10304
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Agreed. 2024 was our first hope, and that appears to be dashed.

How so? The '23s are just getting on the ground.


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Talk about nitpicking to prove a point.... it definitely looks a heck of a lot like the WRX bumper, regardless if you can lay a can of beer on top of it or not A lot of the mustang guys are not happy of the new body style, for exactly the same reason. Too much unpainted plastic.

Bottom line is there's a trend here with plastic that seems to be catching on. And Subaru is the trendsetter

No nitpicking. The only thing "similar" between the two is the amount of black plastic. Though I have no issue with the WRX's design, that Mustang one was designed better. Not oddball looking. You're trying to say this "trend setting" is a good thing. How is it good when it's making people dislike they way the car they would like to buy ugly to them?


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When did WRX receive DWS in the rear? Damn I must have missed this new suspension layout. WTF!



Ummm 2008?
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Old 05-24-2023, 07:09 PM   #10305
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Now it makes sense why you got a VB, you had a crosstrek !
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Old 05-24-2023, 07:13 PM   #10306
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They make the machined ones in all black. I'm open to suggestions of non-3-piece wheels in 19x8.5 5x100 +35/+40 offset. Not as easy as one would think. Do you yield to my challenge?

And definitely do not suggest RPF1s, TE37s, or any other wack, played out choices, my guy.Pretty much all STI wheels are acceptable to me. I just don't like their offset. So my design preferences lean towards what an OEM Subaru or STI wheel would look like in better size or offset.
I understand my mission sir

I'm a big fan of Konig flowformed wheels for their lightness, increased strength, and being relatively affordable. I always look for weight specs before I look at aesthetics.

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Old 05-24-2023, 07:21 PM   #10307
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How so? The '23s are just getting on the ground.





I'll have time around 1230 central tomorrow(Thursday). Not too hard to find what retailer I work at. Ask for the firefighter. I'm genuinely curious.





No nitpicking. The only thing "similar" between the two is the amount of black plastic. Though I have no issue with the WRX's design, that Mustang one was designed better. Not oddball looking. You're trying to say this "trend setting" is a good thing. How is it good when it's making people dislike they way the car they would like to buy ugly to them?







Ummm 2008?
Oh no, I'm definitely not saying that Subaru trendsetting with the extra cladding is a good thing. I'm not a big fan of cladding in general, unless it's on a crosstrek or whatever.

I'm not going to pretend that I'm in love with the cladding on my WRX (although I do like it overall aside from the 'not-so-pretty' back bumper).

I bought it because it drives great and it's one of the last remaining fun stick shifts out there at a reasonably affordable price. Also, I wanted to desperately get out of the crosstrek.... Not a bad car at all for what it is, but the mushy suspension, CVT, and lack of any type of joy from driving it, had me hating it 4 months after I bought it.
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Old 05-24-2023, 07:31 PM   #10308
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Ummm 2008?
I thought it was multi-link rear setup, not Double Wishbone
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Old 05-24-2023, 10:55 PM   #10309
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They make the machined ones in all black. I'm open to suggestions of non-3-piece wheels in 19x8.5 5x100 +35/+40 offset. Not as easy as one would think. Do you yield to my challenge?

And definitely do not suggest RPF1s, TE37s, or any other wack, played out choices, my guy.Pretty much all STI wheels are acceptable to me. I just don't like their offset. So my design preferences lean towards what an OEM Subaru or STI wheel would look like in better size or offset.


Now it makes sense why you hate the VB so much. Funny, lol.


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Old 05-25-2023, 08:23 AM   #10310
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I thought it was multi-link rear setup, not Double Wishbone
Agree, there is no way they found room back there for double wish-bone. Just look through the wheel well. Is there a strut? Strut=multi-link.

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Old 05-25-2023, 11:04 AM   #10311
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You know what, overall, I think you're right. It's kind of done. Now it's matte bronze wheels time to... shine?
You guys are both wrong, or right?

Gotta have both!

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Old 05-25-2023, 11:08 AM   #10312
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How so? The '23s are just getting on the ground.
The spy shots of the 2024 w/ Performance Pkg (or at least red Brembos) still has cladding. I have not heard of any change.
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Old 05-25-2023, 01:31 PM   #10313
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You guys are both wrong, or right?

Gotta have both!

HRE's!! Wow brings back memories of my old AUDI/BMW days.
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Old 05-25-2023, 01:54 PM   #10314
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Would there be more sales if this was the design approach that they took on the wrx? (sedan, wagon, whatever, just focus on the bumper design, fender design, etc...)

Subaru knows how to make a good looking wrx, they just chose to make something that looks terrible.

looks more grown up, higher end, and actually deserving of MRSP.

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Old 05-25-2023, 02:43 PM   #10315
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You just reminded me that I'd swap to a Levorg bumper if I had a WRX.

Also HRE wheels aren't an expected wheel option for a Subaru. They look out of place. Do love me some HREs on other cars though.
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Old 05-25-2023, 02:51 PM   #10316
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[...]I'll have time around 1230 central tomorrow(Thursday). Not too hard to find what retailer I work at. Ask for the firefighter. I'm genuinely curious.[...]
I was just joking around; but I do appreciate the offer.
Subaru does what Subaru must do or what Subaru wants.
But, I have the same 2 comments I have been making:
- I'm not convinced with what they've done with FA24DIT in the VB WRX
- but, the paradox is that I'd still happily purchase a WRX Wagon (chassis code?) with the very same FA24DIT under its hood WITH the SPT because it's a very good looking and affordable sporty wagon.
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Old 05-25-2023, 02:57 PM   #10317
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Would there be more sales if this was the design approach that they took on the wrx? (sedan, wagon, whatever, just focus on the bumper design, fender design, etc...)

Subaru knows how to make a good looking wrx, they just chose to make something that looks terrible.

looks more grown up, higher end, and actually deserving of MRSP.
More sales? Eh, sales are already good.

Less complaining? A bit.

Would I be more inclined to consider it (especially a wagon)? Yes!
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Old 05-25-2023, 03:02 PM   #10318
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More sales? Eh, sales are already good.

Less complaining? A bit.

Would I be more inclined to consider it (especially a wagon), yes!
If only they made a WRX wagon again, holy moly! Even a hatchback....

The new Impreza is now hatchback only; they should have made it sedan only (or even discontinue it), and give the WRX the hatchback only treatment.
After all, the Impreza hatchback is nearly identical to the Crosstrek, aside from a few inches of ground clearance.
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Old 05-25-2023, 03:19 PM   #10319
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If only they made a WRX wagon again, holy moly! Even a hatchback....

The new Impreza is now hatchback only; they should have made it sedan only (or even discontinue it), and give the WRX the hatchback only treatment.
After all, the Impreza hatchback is nearly identical to the Crosstrek, aside from a few inches of ground clearance.
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Old 05-25-2023, 03:24 PM   #10320
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I'd be fine with the Impreza being discontinued IF it meant getting a WRX wagon (or hatchback) instead.
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Old 05-25-2023, 03:27 PM   #10321
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More sales? Eh, sales are already good.

Less complaining? A bit.

Would I be more inclined to consider it (especially a wagon)? Yes!
quantity of sales seem okay, but would they sell quicker and not require massive discounts to move?

just stirring the pot, that's all. I'd love to see the wagon here, but I've pretty much moved on from Subaru, so I highly doubt I'd even consider it. But I would love to see it on the market so that maybe one of their competitors would consider bringing something similar to market (RS3 hatch).
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Old 05-25-2023, 03:32 PM   #10322
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I know, lol....

Let me know when they bring it to the States and with a proper manual transmission.
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You just reminded me that I'd swap to a Levorg bumper if I had a WRX.

Also HRE wheels aren't an expected wheel option for a Subaru. They look out of place. Do love me some HREs on other cars though.
I'll allow comment that but make you change your mind when I finally get the coupe back from the paint shop.
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Old 05-25-2023, 05:14 PM   #10324
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You just reminded me that I'd swap to a Levorg bumper if I had a WRX.

Also HRE wheels aren't an expected wheel option for a Subaru. They look out of place. Do love me some HREs on other cars though.
I've always liked euro car stylings...

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Old 05-25-2023, 05:25 PM   #10325
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I know, lol....

Let me know when they bring it to the States and with a proper manual transmission.
I don't disagree.
But, supposedly, the current WRX 6-speed transaxle is holding FA24DIT back to exactly 350 N.m. a.k.a. 258 ft-lbs. That's low; even for a 2.0L.
I'm not saying that's a Subaru-specific issue; other manufacturers like VW have been struggling with this, to some extent.
But, in the WRX, the issue is exacerbated by the usual AWD drivetrain losses; 258 ft-lbs to the crank doesn't leave us with that much to the wheels.
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