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Old 07-17-2022, 11:31 PM   #226
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Quick check of Cars.com, and hardly anything sedan wise is above 4 digits, with the highest inventory being the Charger/Challenger. The WRX currently seems to have the highest inventory (outside of the Dodge models) of any "inexpensive" sporty/performance car.

Meanwhile, there are 30 BRZ's...
1000 WRX’s sitting around, and 30 BRZ’s. Yep they straight killing it on that WRX.
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Old 07-18-2022, 12:22 AM   #227
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1000 WRX’s sitting around, and 30 BRZ’s. Yep they straight killing it on that WRX.

He’s using cars.com to reference local inventories. Convinced the guy has 0 connections @ Subaru or in the auto industry in general at this point and raged when someone else (myself) shared the wealth.
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Old 07-18-2022, 12:52 AM   #228
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He’s using cars.com to reference local inventories. Convinced the guy has 0 connections @ Subaru or in the auto industry in general at this point and raged when someone else (myself) shared the wealth.
It's a way that anyone can see for themselves what I'm referencing. Tell me how off cars.com is from actual Subaru inventory. I'll bet money it's in the ball park. You and I both know you're full of it. You have 2 model years to squirm out of your narrative. One model year is coming up pretty quickly.
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:02 AM   #229
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It's a way that anyone can see for themselves what I'm referencing. Tell me how off cars.com is from actual Subaru inventory. I'll bet money it's in the ball park. You and I both know you're full of it. You have 2 model years to squirm out of your narrative. One model year is coming up pretty quickly.
Anyone whose under 65 would probably go to Carguru to scan local inventory. Cars.com is played out many dealers don’t even use it anymore.

I have ZERO reason to sit here and make up lies about this car. Let me ask you a question, what kind of freak would sit here and make up everything I said? I am relaying info directly from the HQ and what’s really going on. You don’t like it…that’s okay. I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m proven right by November at this rate.
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:27 AM   #230
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Anyone whose under 65 would probably go to Carguru to scan local inventory. Cars.com is played out many dealers don’t even use it anymore.

I have ZERO reason to sit here and make up lies about this car. Let me ask you a question, what kind of freak would sit here and make up everything I said? I am relaying info directly from the HQ and what’s really going on. You don’t like it…that’s okay. I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m proven right by November at this rate.
the site doesn't matter, the api does. People on the internet do things for attention. People on the internet broadcast things they believe to be gospel they heard from sources that don't know crap. There's a reason why the My Dealership Told Me thread is stickied.

If these hatchbacks and EJ STIs start falling from the sky, I'll apologize and delete my account. When it doesn't happen, I'm going to entertain myself by finding you and asking you what happened. You explaining why they don't exist will be textbook backpedaling. I'm also looking for those painted flares this year and next year... hell, let's throw in the following year. I've said all I have to say. As has happened many times over the years, I'll be patient as the time passes, and then I'll drop the unpopular "I told you so."
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:57 AM   #231
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Not here to get involved in any pissing matches or argue who's right or wrong, rather just wanted to share my experiences today at two different dealerships.

Both of them had 4+ 2022 WRXs in the showroom/lot that were visible to me. I didn't bother to pry and ask how many more they had in the back (if any). This was my second time seeing it up close in person (the first being at Subiefest last year). I will say that the plastic cladding is growing on me just a tad, but still looks goofy (IMO) and I'd much prefer painted fenders. The CBS (crystal black silica) WRX I saw definitely looked the best out of all the colors because it hides the black well, which is saying something because I usually do not like black cars at all.

I only test drove one WRX because I was in a time crunch and was also test driving Foresters. The one I drove happened to be a WRX GT. The Recaro seats felt extremely nice and the bolstering was fantastic. I will admit that the CVT (or "SPT" as they call it) felt surprisingly pleasant. It felt responsive enough for the car and the "shifts" were pretty quick. Obviously a manual transmission is still the way to go if you want driver engagement or plan to do any track days, but for the average joe, I can see the CVT being adequate enough for a daily driver. The electronic dampers felt well-sorted and was much more compliant over bumps and uneven pavement compared to my 2017. The powerband definitely felt less peaky and more usable compared to the FA20. It didn't really feel faster, just smoother and less jerky to drive. The GT I drove did not have the optional exhaust but still sounded had a noticeable deeper and throatier exhaust note than my VA. The GT comes with matte gunmetal/dark gray wheels standard as opposed to a glossy finish on the other trims and IMO the matte finish made it look really cheap, as if someone tried to plastidip them at home. The matte wheels are also a lighter shade of gray than the non-matte. Not my cup of tea.

That said, the sticker price on the GT I drove was $46K which immediately makes it a non-starter IMO. It feels like such an oddly-positioned product because enthusiasts would rather get a cheaper trim with a manual while "normal" people who just want something a bit sportier than a regular econobox sedan can opt for a decently equipped 3 series or A4 for the same price, and those types of people likely care more about branding or cool interiors/tech than they do about "rally heritage" or what have you. The GT is nice but it seems like you have to really be a huge Subaru fanatic to justify buying one given what else you can get at that price.

As for the 2022 WRX as a whole though, I will say the interior quality (materials, fit and finish, etc.) are a huge improvement over the outgoing VA though, and it was nice to see and feel that in person. If you can get over the goofy looks, it's not a bad product, but I certainly wouldn't trade in my VA for one.
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Old 07-18-2022, 03:03 AM   #232
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Well ****. Guess it's thread lock.
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Old 07-18-2022, 09:03 AM   #233
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the site doesn't matter, the api does. People on the internet do things for attention. People on the internet broadcast things they believe to be gospel they heard from sources that don't know crap. There's a reason why the My Dealership Told Me thread is stickied.

If these hatchbacks and EJ STIs start falling from the sky, I'll apologize and delete my account. When it doesn't happen, I'm going to entertain myself by finding you and asking you what happened. You explaining why they don't exist will be textbook backpedaling. I'm also looking for those painted flares this year and next year... hell, let's throw in the following year. I've said all I have to say. As has happened many times over the years, I'll be patient as the time passes, and then I'll drop the unpopular "I told you so."
I said never said they’d make an Ej now and I said what they would go with the fenders and they will try to release a Wrx hath re read my posts I never once said the ej sti is happening now it’s already been cancelled. Not sure why you’re twisting my words

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Old 07-18-2022, 09:09 AM   #234
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Locking a thread In the “news and rumors” section because there isn’t a direct article backing it even though most of the journalists are completely wrong is absolutely ridiculous. Like I said this is why forums are dying.
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Old 07-18-2022, 09:58 AM   #235
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I said never said they’d make an Ej now and I said what they would go with the fenders and they will try to release a Wrx hath re read my posts I never once said the ej sti is happening now it’s already been cancelled. Not sure why you’re twisting my words
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SO is trolling. The STI was going to have the EJ. The STI mule had the EJ. No plans of any other engine in the proposed car.
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An ICE STI model WILL happen again. Expect a bombshell at some point at one of the major auto shows….eventually. Key word is model.
with what engine then?

And the STI was NEVER going to have an EJ. Saying so is a straight up lie and you continue to double down on it.
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Old 07-18-2022, 10:19 AM   #236
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Oh? If this:


Then this:



with what engine then?

And the STI was NEVER going to have an EJ. Saying so is a straight up lie and you continue to double down on it.
The STI WAS going to use the EJ, the MULE had the EJ. Do you now know what was means?

And I said STI MODEL. I don’t know what engine or model it will be based off of. I haven’t gotten that much info yet.

Do you even own any Subarus?? Have you ever even bought a STI?

You can’t disprove anything that I’m saying. It must keep you up at night
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Old 07-18-2022, 10:21 AM   #237
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Folks. We will find out in the coming months the truth so the deeper this conversation goes the deeper that one side is digging his (or her) hole. Best to agree to disagree and when next year's model changes are stated you can post your "I told you so".
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Old 07-18-2022, 10:21 AM   #238
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the site doesn't matter, the api does. People on the internet do things for attention. People on the internet broadcast things they believe to be gospel they heard from sources that don't know crap. There's a reason why the My Dealership Told Me thread is stickied.

If these hatchbacks and EJ STIs start falling from the sky, I'll apologize and delete my account. When it doesn't happen, I'm going to entertain myself by finding you and asking you what happened. You explaining why they don't exist will be textbook backpedaling. I'm also looking for those painted flares this year and next year... hell, let's throw in the following year. I've said all I have to say. As has happened many times over the years, I'll be patient as the time passes, and then I'll drop the unpopular "I told you so."
Missed this one. I need zero attention. You clearly need the attention as if anyone has any Subaru news and it isn’t you it clearly causes some problems ***129315;

Make sure you delete it if they come out with gloss black flares, painted flares, or change them for the refresh.


Because I never said the hatchback was 100%

And I certainly never said the WRX STI will be returning any time soon with an EJ motor. I said a STI model will be coming. Don’t know any more about that statement than that
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The STI WAS going to use the EJ, the MULE had the EJ. Do you now know what was means?

And I said STI MODEL. I don’t know what engine or model it will be based off of. I haven’t gotten that much info yet.

Do you even own any Subarus?? Have you ever even bought a STI?

You can’t disprove anything that I’m saying. It must keep you up at night
That's false. Full stop. And Subaru Australia was the source that the VB would not have an EJ. Believe you or them? On top of that, Subaru literally made “Final Editions” not to send off the VA, but to send off the EJ.

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Old 07-18-2022, 10:24 AM   #240
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Your opinion is meaningless, there is nothing wrong. These are selling quite well and will continue to do so because the 2022 WRX is a great sports sedan.
You were this close to being somewhat listened to and respected and then you threw it all away...



Everybody's opinion is valid. He has a right to say what he thinks whether you agree with him or not. Pre and I disagree ALL THE TIME, but he makes good points worth a dialog at times. His opinion is valid as is mine and yours.

His opinion may be meaningless to you, but I happen like his insight and critical analysis of the articles.
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Old 07-18-2022, 10:37 AM   #241
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That's false. Full stop. And Subaru Australia was the source that the VB would not have an EJ. Believe you or them? On top of that, Subaru literally made “Final Editions” not to send off the VA, but to send off the EJ.

Australia said the VB wouldn’t have the EJ? Or they wouldn’t be getting the VB with the EJ if it made it to retail. Either point could be argued

I will make sure to reach out to you once some changes start happening. No longer entertaining you anymore for the sake of this thread not getting locked.

BTW infante himself pretty much said that if they made the the VB STI, it would have a short shelf life. Why is that? Is it because they’d be using a version of the current WRX motor ? Well if that’s the case , it wouldn’t make sense to sell the WRX either.

But if they use the EJ, they would have to make changes to sell it now just to have to stop selling it after a year or two.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a39432051/subaru-sti-canned-because-itd-be-short-lived/


So how could the STI be short lived if it was to use a modern engine? Or even a modified version of the current VB motor?
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rallly 4: When you started posting in this forum, you agreed to the rules and if you didn't agree then you took a chance. You are not exempt to posting something without a source. Sources have "rumors" as well, so your point is moot. If you can't provide a source, you can mention your "rumor" in a related thread.
If you are given a free pass because you claim to work for Subaru, then this forum would turn into a free for all claiming the same. In addition, this thread turned into a who's man handle is bigger with the child's play going back and forth between 2 Subaru employees. Aren't you guys supposed to be professionals working in a professional field? Doesn't seem like that's the character reflected here.

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In light of constructive discussion, the purpose of this thread is to have conversation pertaining to the New WRX (MY 2023+). Similar to the "My Dealership Told Me Thread", it has no officially sourced link to confirm such rumors, so take it with a grain of salt.
This is not a conversation about who's rumor is validated vs. who's isn't.
Some bullets to point out:
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Most importantly, enjoy yourselves!

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In light of constructive discussion, the purpose of this thread is to have conversation pertaining to the New WRX (MY 2023+). Similar to the "My Dealership Told Me Thread", it has no officially sourced link to confirm such rumors, so take it with a grain of salt.
This is not a conversation about who's rumor is validated vs. who's isn't.
Some bullets to point out:
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Good man!
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Thank you Elm.
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Regardless of whether or not which party is correct, I do appreciate this thread as an interested party.

However, I figured internal discussions had to be coming either way since it was 100% clear the STI was cut late in the game, which would lead to internal discussions about model year 23+ regardless. My thoughts were additions or modifications to seats to include Recaro's, Brakes, Transmission, etc.
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Regardless of whether or not which party is correct, I do appreciate this thread as an interested party.

However, I figured internal discussions had to be coming either way since it was 100% clear the STI was cut late in the game, which would lead to internal discussions about model year 23+ regardless. My thoughts were additions or modifications to seats to include Recaro's, Brakes, Transmission, etc.
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Regardless of whether or not which party is correct, I do appreciate this thread as an interested party.

However, I figured internal discussions had to be coming either way since it was 100% clear the STI was cut late in the game, which would lead to internal discussions about model year 23+ regardless. My thoughts were additions or modifications to seats to include Recaro's, Brakes, Transmission, etc.
That car was so close….I mean SO close….they could probably release it right now if they wanted to
Mind boggling how they didn’t even release it for one year. F’ing Subaru man.
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FWIW, I was chatting with a Subaru engineer on another forum and he said the STI was nuts. Really wish they released it.
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FWIW, I was chatting with a Subaru engineer on another forum and he said the STI was nuts. Really wish they released it.
Ask him what engine was in it so SO can stop haha
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