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Old 07-15-2022, 04:01 PM   #126
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I'm in Subaru capitol of the US, Colorado. Every dealership around has the new WRX in stock or showing in transit with no sold or reservation indicated on them. I believe rally4
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Old 07-15-2022, 04:04 PM   #127
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So what did I miss?

WRX "Tuned by STi" badge coming on 2023 models?
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Old 07-15-2022, 04:07 PM   #128
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just checked my local dealer website (pretty big dealer).

new inventory
3 2023 crosstreks
5 2022 ascents
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Old 07-15-2022, 04:08 PM   #129
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Old 07-15-2022, 04:19 PM   #130
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Just went back looking to recall what rallly's posts were that "predicted the death" of the STI. Nothing of the sort, though he was all-in on it's gonna be EJ. To which we all said "should die before that happens" and so the fact that it did semi-validated his rumors.

If I had real info like this from an insider buddy I'd never share it and risk their job unless they wanted me to do it. This is what I assumed SoDealer's tsk tsk was about. This wouldn't be information that every other nerd working at SoA would know. Seeing all his other posts I guess he couldn't give half an F
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Old 07-15-2022, 04:30 PM   #131
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Just went back looking to recall what rallly's posts were that "predicted the death" of the STI. Nothing of the sort, though he was all-in on it's gonna be EJ. To which we all said "should die before that happens" and so the fact that it did semi-validated his rumors.

If I had real info like this from an insider buddy I'd never share it and risk their job unless they wanted me to do it. This is what I assumed SoDealer's tsk tsk was about. This wouldn't be information that every other nerd working at SoA would know. Seeing all his other posts I guess he couldn't give half an F
If I recall he was saying they were having issues getting the engine in the STI certified (EJ) for the newest model year (due to stricter emissions in the US that have taken effect already) and it appears that's what killed off the STI for this generation. Clearly he was on to something as Subaru had showed no indications of not offering an STI for the current generation up until this point.

Nobody else was giving us this type of insight and I even thought he might just be full of conspiracy and speculation. But the dude was spot on.
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Old 07-15-2022, 05:14 PM   #132
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Re: inventory sitting on lots, I think I'm going to try to go test drive one just to see how it drives. I'm selling my car soon (no buyer lined up, was gonna use CarMax or a similar service) so might be worth a shot to see what the dealer will give me for it or how much they'd throw at me to try to get me in a 2022
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Old 07-15-2022, 05:16 PM   #133
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Re: inventory sitting on lots, I think I'm going to try to go test drive one just to see how it drives. I'm selling my car soon (no buyer lined up, was gonna use CarMax or a similar service) so might be worth a shot to see what the dealer will give me for it or how much they'd throw at me to try to get me in a 2022
If they do any type of refresh these 2022 pre-refresh cars might see some big discounts.
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Old 07-15-2022, 05:28 PM   #134
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local dealers have a lot in transit, there are a few on lots, but not that many.

I still haven't seen one on the road.
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Old 07-15-2022, 05:29 PM   #135
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local dealers have a lot in transit, there are a few on lots, but not that many.

I still haven't seen one on the road.
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Old 07-15-2022, 05:59 PM   #136
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All of this belongs in a trash can.
If he's right are you going to apologize? I don't think anyone working at a dealership knows anything about what's going on inside the company as is being proven right now with the GR Corolla. Dealers know nothing about it despite the fact it's going into production soon. This doesn't seem far fetched at all given it's happened before in 2009.
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Old 07-15-2022, 06:03 PM   #137
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...".... I loathed owning a sedan. I wish I had never done it."....


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Old 07-15-2022, 06:24 PM   #138
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Did Toyota and Subaru merge yet?

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Old 07-15-2022, 06:33 PM   #139
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If I recall he was saying they were having issues getting the engine in the STI certified (EJ) for the newest model year (due to stricter emissions in the US that have taken effect already) and it appears that's what killed off the STI for this generation. Clearly he was on to something as Subaru had showed no indications of not offering an STI for the current generation up until this point.

Nobody else was giving us this type of insight and I even thought he might just be full of conspiracy and speculation. But the dude was spot on.
That’s exactly what I said. Thanks. At least some enthusiasts are enjoying the insight !
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Old 07-15-2022, 06:42 PM   #140
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If he's right are you going to apologize? I don't think anyone working at a dealership knows anything about what's going on inside the company as is being proven right now with the GR Corolla. Dealers know nothing about it despite the fact it's going into production soon. This doesn't seem far fetched at all given it's happened before in 2009.
They know nothing. Actually, Subaru dealers in the states in particular don’t know much of what’s going on with new models at all. The average Joe is more informed than almost every person in the dealership about upcoming models and ETA’s

GR Corolla will be a fun car. I have one allocated @ msrp on order, but after seeing the CTR leaked pictures I might end up giving my father the GR allocation and taking the CTR. On a good note, Someone told me that *they* heard from someone @ Toyota product planning dep that the suggested MSRP for a base Corolla GR before options will be (before destination) $32,399-32,999

This undercuts all the estimates I’ve seen from others who are saying it’s going to be starting close to 40. When I heard the goal is close to 30, I thought wow. 300HP , rally roots, and about 33K OTD. It’s like 04’ all over again

Take that with a grain of salt, but that is an absolute bargain.
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Old 07-15-2022, 06:43 PM   #141
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Anecdotaly, there are a crap load of new 2022 WRX's for sale in New England right now and, from what I can tell, these are not sold orders. Some are in transit but my tiny dealer shows 5 of them on the lot and unsold. 5 is a ton for this dealership I can't recall the last time they had 5 WRX's sitting on their lot o in the last 2-3 years. They usually had 1-3 at most. And they are MSRP only.
You won't be able to see sold orders; so, those are all for sale. Just makes me made if they are upset they are not "selling" as much since we have 4 customers waiting and they would rather send "unsold" cars to these higher volume retailers.........which normally would be understandable; but, with all the problems going on, send them to the sold order customers first. You know. The ones that actually WANT the car and have ordered them versus sending them to other retailers HOPING they sell?!?!?

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I'm in Subaru capitol of the US, Colorado. Every dealership around has the new WRX in stock or showing in transit with no sold or reservation indicated on them. I believe rally4
Since the "demise"(sales only) of Heuberger, I'd argue California is the capitol now. Shoot, the #1 retailer in the US before SOA stopped posting it is now in Texas.
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Old 07-15-2022, 06:44 PM   #142
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Just went back looking to recall what rallly's posts were that "predicted the death" of the STI. Nothing of the sort, though he was all-in on it's gonna be EJ. To which we all said "should die before that happens" and so the fact that it did semi-validated his rumors.

If I had real info like this from an insider buddy I'd never share it and risk their job unless they wanted me to do it. This is what I assumed SoDealer's tsk tsk was about. This wouldn't be information that every other nerd working at SoA would know. Seeing all his other posts I guess he couldn't give half an F
I would never do anything to risk anyones job or come close to it.
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Old 07-15-2022, 06:54 PM   #143
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Still haven’t heard anything about what happened today. Maybe it’s something I won’t hear. Figured I’d update in case anyone was wondering.
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Old 07-15-2022, 07:55 PM   #144
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Maybe SOA read this post. They do lurk here you know, I swear they read all of our criticisms and have a chat with product development engineers, and more importantly Tom Doll.
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Old 07-15-2022, 07:58 PM   #145
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Still haven’t heard anything about what happened today. Maybe it’s something I won’t hear. Figured I’d update in case anyone was wondering.
Please keep the information flowing and ignore the hating folk. That is what the forum is for. The people who are all “I know more Boobaru than you!” Are nauseating. Nobody cares, this isn’t a religion although many exude cult like behavior.

From what you are saying, Subaru f’d up. They know it now. SOA is having some meeting about it, and we have to wait to hear the fruit from that. Intelligent folk have predicted changes, like they’d one before quickly, a la 2008/2009 and the good dope suggests painted fenders, new rear bumper perhaps, but something. Maybe they’ll D up and offer the loyalist a STI trim with the 6MT, perhaps diffs, who knows?
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Maybe SOA read this post. They do lurk here you know, I swear they read all of our criticisms and have a chat with product development engineers, and more importantly Tom Doll.
Yeah, it's good for a laugh at the water cooler.
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Old 07-15-2022, 08:36 PM   #147
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Please keep the information flowing and ignore the hating folk. That is what the forum is for. The people who are all “I know more Boobaru than you!” Are nauseating. Nobody cares, this isn’t a religion although many exude cult like behavior.

From what you are saying, Subaru f’d up. They know it now. SOA is having some meeting about it, and we have to wait to hear the fruit from that. Intelligent folk have predicted changes, like they’d one before quickly, a la 2008/2009 and the good dope suggests painted fenders, new rear bumper perhaps, but something. Maybe they’ll D up and offer the loyalist a STI trim with the 6MT, perhaps diffs, who knows?
Thanks. I’m still waiting. Most likely the only way that will happen is if they end up panicking and shoe horning the EJ in. Problem with that (from what I have heard) was even if they adjust to meet current emissions they’ll have to do it again shortly. The problem is too much $$$ being spent on an out dated engine on a new generation car (i love the sti ej but have to call the kettle black here)


The hatch will likely return along with painted finders for the Sedan before we see the sti.


In 09 when they decided to change the color of the seats from sti suede grey to black for 2010 + , know why that was? They received numerous complaints that the new seats where too boring , ugly, looked like “ mouse fur” (coming from the blue suede in 07)

So…instead of giving us blue suede, we got black with red stitching.

When complains come in, sometimes they listen. The fact that EVERYONE is complaining about the new WRX combined with the info I’ve heard so far. Very excited to hear what todays conclusion was.

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I would prefer a full blown Levorg STI. But a hatch will give cause to reconsider giving up on Subaru.
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Old 07-15-2022, 09:19 PM   #149
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....... Very excited to hear what todays conclusion was.
So, this meeting includes SBR? I might have missed you saying that before.
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Old 07-15-2022, 09:37 PM   #150
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He clearly knows someone or else this thread would not exist. So we wait and see what info he is fed or not fed. Nobody is going to die like the STI...
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