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Old 10-10-2018, 11:28 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Subaru Knock Monitoring - What It All Means (Feedback, Fine Learning DAM)

A question was asked about knock monitoring with the AP and what Feedback/Fine Learning and DAM mean so I did my best to explain it in a video since this is a common question that's asked and a concept that is quite misunderstood. Please note, I am not a professional tuner (although I do tune my own car) and so although I strive to understand our cars to the best of my ability, I do have gaps in my knowledge.

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Old 10-11-2018, 12:11 AM   #2
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Knock knock! Who's there? IAG
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Old 10-11-2018, 04:22 PM   #3
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Knock knock! Who's there? IAG
Lol, I wonder if there's a conspiracy theory somewhere in there 🙊.
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Old 10-11-2018, 04:38 PM   #4
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https://www.cobbtuning.com/subaru-da...ging-overview/
No offense to your video, I'm sure it's great, but I'll take my info from Cobb Tuning...
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Old 10-12-2018, 03:38 AM   #5
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https://www.cobbtuning.com/subaru-da...ging-overview/
No offense to your video, I'm sure it's great, but I'll take my info from Cobb Tuning...
Hopefully you actually read the article you shared and understand it ( unlike watching the vid) 😂🚀
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:16 AM   #6
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I didn't read or watch anything. I'm sure you're a very knowledgeable person and I'm sure your video is dead on. I always always always defer to the manufacturer. And especially when it comes to Cobb, they know their stuff far better than almost anyone out there.

So I always defer to the information on their website. no offense meant to you by any means.
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Old 10-12-2018, 12:16 PM   #7
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I just want to clarify that one of the reasons I made the video is because the information ( including the cobb article and the open-source Tactrix version) don't paint the full picture. The cobb one does explain what the variables mean but the explanation is not complete because they had to dumb down and keep short on the words because the vast majority of people don't understand how their ecu works and they simply want a black and white answer ( to a very gray question). It's also hard to convey this information I'm text in a way to keep the audience engaged enough to actually read it.

In my video (if you would have watched it, you'd know) I first explain what knock is and then go on to explain how the subaru knock control system works and WHY it does what it does to protect the car.

Whether you choose to watch my video or not, I just encourage you ( and everyone) to strive to understand their car on a deeper level and this is a crucial topic that can mean the difference between a healthy car and complaints about blown ringlands. If you don't want to watch my video, please read and understand the article you posted and also watch other COBB videos ( they have a modification series that's free and covers a lot of topics about how Subaru's tick).
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Subarus tick. It's just what they do. That's normal.

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Old 10-12-2018, 01:14 PM   #9
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Subarus tick. It's just what they do. That's normal.

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Old 10-17-2018, 01:55 AM   #10
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Good video, good information! Thank you OP!

Cobb's information is mindlessly dumbed down in order to stop questions from being asked and to stop people from constantly bothering them with questions about if their car is going to explode on a stage 1 tune or not. As a result, the information can be incredibly misleading, and in some cases flat out wrong.

Cobb's site is like a Wikipedia. Awesome if you're looking for cursory intro information, but if you actually want to learn about the subject it is a horrible academic resource.

This is a good video that actually breaks down the information without distorting it.

Thank you OP!

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Old 10-17-2018, 03:38 AM   #11
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Good video, good information! Thank you OP!

Cobb's information is mindlessly dumbed down in order to stop questions from being asked and to stop people from constantly bothering them with questions about if their car is going to explode on a stage 1 tune or not. As a result, the information can be incredibly misleading, and in some cases flat out wrong.

Cobb's site is like a Wikipedia. Awesome if you're looking for cursory intro information, but if you actually want to learn about the subject it is a horrible academic resource.

This is a good video that actually breaks down the information without distorting it.

Thank you OP!
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I'm glad you see what I saw which was the reason for making a vid instead of just linking an article as an answer to someone's question.
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Old 10-17-2018, 04:18 AM   #12
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You may want to consider seeing if a mod could move this to EM&T, and possibly even the Accessport subsection. I imagine it would get far more traffic there.
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Old 10-17-2018, 06:13 PM   #13
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This is definitely not an AP-specific topic although I suppose it does fit the EM section.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:56 PM   #14
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Thanks for taking the time to put this together, recently picked up a Forester XT and I've been trying to get a handle on all of the values available in the AP.
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Old 10-20-2018, 11:55 PM   #15
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Thanks for posting this. Im new to Accessport world and have been monitoring these!
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:18 AM   #16
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Great vid. Thanks for taking the time.
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:19 PM   #17
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Thanks for watching. Glad it could help!
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https://ibb.co/i1rOfq

Hope this helps. I found it at Cobb's website.

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