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Old 04-05-2019, 05:22 PM   #26
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early rs3's had iron blocks, they are aluminum now and less front biased. and id much rather have the 5 cylinder and have room to tune it than a tuned to the max engine that i already have.
You learn something everyday. I had no clue about the early iron block version. This engine is an absolute monster, it is almost comical how fast these things are with some tuning.
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Old 04-05-2019, 06:41 PM   #27
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Outside of the MB AMG 4-cyl the EA888 is probably the most potent 4-cylinder engine available today. Plenty of people are getting into the 11's for 1/4 mile on stock turbo. I would rather the 5-cyl but the 4-cyl will lead to a better handling car.
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Old 04-05-2019, 06:53 PM   #28
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^ that’s my feeling as well, though up to a point. If I’m dropping upwards of 60k, I want that glass crunching sound and effortless spool the 5 cylinder provides.
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Old 04-05-2019, 07:06 PM   #29
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Outside of the MB AMG 4-cyl the EA888 is probably the most potent 4-cylinder engine available today. Plenty of people are getting into the 11's for 1/4 mile on stock turbo. I would rather the 5-cyl but the 4-cyl will lead to a better handling car.
Once you bring aftermarket tuning into the equation everything goes out the window. How much are you affecting the durability in the long term ? Not only for the engine but for the supporting mechanical components that were not designed for those power levels. I would also bet that the iron block EA888 isn't all that much lighter to begin with. That AMG engine is probably close to 25 grand and if VW was confident with the EA888 as is, why not boost it to 400 hp and slap into the RS/S models. They would save a ton of money and handily outperform the competition. There is a reason even the GTI to R version has some internal differences even with the 80 hp jump or so, not just a bigger turbo. My point being, the 2.5T could last much longer at those power levels and there is just much more character with that 5 cyl than a high strung 4 pot.
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Old 04-05-2019, 07:52 PM   #30
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it's a very different system though - FWD/slip-sensative AWD is what the Golf-R is; same "rear bias capability" is not the same as full time AWD that is "50:50"
It's not slip sensitive. The older gen Haldex units were, but current gen, not the case. The rear diff is pre-engaged before slip starts, based on various inputs. I may get a small chirp out of a front inside tire on hard acceleration from a stop, but that's it, and the rear is already pushing. The rear is engaged before I start slipping and is fully capable of 50/50 split.

The older units, like the mk4 R32, require slip before the rear could engage. the switch to a high speed electric pump that pre-primes the haldex changed that.

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Old 04-05-2019, 10:58 PM   #31
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Old 04-09-2019, 03:33 PM   #32
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I'm not sure how many people will shell out $50+ for a Golf.
Probably the same amount of people willing to shell out the same amount for a powerful Impreza s209
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