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Old 02-20-2013, 11:16 PM   #9426
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Mine are 17x8 Offset: 48mm... Check out my last pic and it'll give you an idea.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:29 PM   #9427
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Yeah but the 17x9 42ET Grids would poke another 6mm over the 17x8 35ET Grids.
So... You would be putting different size tires on these wheels then?

ie. 225 on the 8 and 245 on 9? (potentially)
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:39 AM   #9428
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Delta 1500's? Please give me a slight review. And did you install yourself? I've been really interested in this mod. But I am timid of installation costs.
No, Delta 1000, unless they've brought out a new cam, the 1000 is the only option for the SOHC AVLS motor.
It's Delta's 'torque grind' cam, so don't expect any OMFG-pinned-back-in-your-seat kind of response, however it pulls nicely through the rev range, and doesn't sacrifice any low down torque (that is noticeable anyway). This is a big deal for me as the car is my DD.
As you probably know, the cost of the cams themselves is cheap once you return your stock cams to Delta, but yes the installation costs are expensive, it's maybe a 7-hour job for a competent shop to turn it around, including pulling the engine.

I don't know what other mods you've got but the biggest single power improvement for me was the EL headers and HFC.

And don't forget to budget for a tune if you do any of these mods, to get the most out of the mods and not cause any damage.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:58 AM   #9429
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No, Delta 1000, unless they've brought out a new cam, the 1000 is the only option for the SOHC AVLS motor.
It's Delta's 'torque grind' cam, so don't expect any OMFG-pinned-back-in-your-seat kind of response, however it pulls nicely through the rev range, and doesn't sacrifice any low down torque (that is noticeable anyway). This is a big deal for me as the car is my DD.
As you probably know, the cost of the cams themselves is cheap once you return your stock cams to Delta, but yes the installation costs are expensive, it's maybe a 7-hour job for a competent shop to turn it around, including pulling the engine.

I don't know what other mods you've got but the biggest single power improvement for me was the EL headers and HFC.

And don't forget to budget for a tune if you do any of these mods, to get the most out of the mods and not cause any damage.
Where did you get your tune? I'm tuning with Sti mikey as soon as this damn tactrix cable comes in. And what EL headers you using?
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:02 AM   #9430
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So... You would be putting different size tires on these wheels then?

ie. 225 on the 8 and 245 on 9? (potentially)
Yes, 235/45/17 on the 17x8 Grid.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:13 AM   #9431
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Yes, 235/45/17 on the 17x8 Grid.
And what on the 9?
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:25 AM   #9432
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And what on the 9?

If I decided to do the 17x9, i'd run the same 235/45/17 tires, just a slight stretch, barely any.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:00 AM   #9433
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245/40 fits well to, I've posted a few pics before of my old setup before
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:37 AM   #9434
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245/40 fits well to, I've posted a few pics before of my old setup before
Can never have enough pictures in this thread! I tried searching but to no avail.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:10 PM   #9435
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If I decided to do the 17x9, i'd run the same 235/45/17 tires, just a slight stretch, barely any.
So if you plan to go with the same tire either way. Wheel width is irrelevant. The 17x8+35 is going to put the tire 7mm closer to the fender than 17x9+42.

Although the 17x9+42 will poke 6mm more than the 17x8+35. Since the same tire is going to be used, the tire on the 17x9+42 will poke 7mm less than the 17x8+35.

This is why you hear the notion, "offset is everything".
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:12 PM   #9436
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Where did you get your tune? I'm tuning with Sti mikey as soon as this damn tactrix cable comes in. And what EL headers you using?
Same tuner
The header is from Lachute Performance (they are local to me), I was lucky to get one lightly used from one of their project cars.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:19 PM   #9437
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So if you plan to go with the same tire either way. Wheel width is irrelevant. The 17x8+35 is going to put the tire 7mm closer to the fender than 17x9+42.

Although the 17x9+42 will poke 6mm more than the 17x8+35. Since the same tire is going to be used, the tire on the 17x9+42 will poke 7mm less than the 17x8+35.

This is why you hear the notion, "offset is everything".

Excellent detail information. Since I am on stock suspension I would rather run a wheel with less poke. In this case it would be the 17x8 35ET Rota Grid. As you stated, this would make a 235/45/17 tire have a taller sidewall then installed on a 9" wide wheel. I don't mind this because i'm on stock suspension and a meatier tire will look more "normal" than a stretched tire on stock suspension. The wheel gap will look less with a 17x8" wheel.

Correct? Thanks again for all your information.

Just found 17x8 45Et wheels for sale local to me, they would most likely fit even better with my stock suspension than the Grids... but i've always wanted Grids. Decisions, decisions.
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Here's somewhat of an example that I'm talking about...



The edge of the tire (tread) lines up with the fender (as it should). So this shows that the tire width, offset, and camber are correct.

But then the wheel is extremely wide. Although the wheel pokes (a lot), the tire is still, technically, in the fender.



I want to find a counter example of a wide tire on a narrow wheel, but I'm having a hard time finding anything.


How this relates to you...

You're going to be on stock suspension with 17" wheels. Even if you do get different suspension and slam the car. I have hard time believing that you're going to get a 17" wheel to hit the fender. The point of contact is going to be the tire, not the wheel. Because of that, wheel width isn't as important as tire width.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:25 PM   #9439
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I was typing that ^ before you posted this \/

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Excellent detail information. Since I am on stock suspension I would rather run a wheel with less poke. In this case it would be the 17x8 35ET Rota Grid. As you stated, this would make a 235/45/17 tire have a taller sidewall then installed on a 9" wide wheel. I don't mind this because i'm on stock suspension and a meatier tire will look more "normal" than a stretched tire on stock suspension. The wheel gap will look less with a 17x8" wheel.

Correct? Thanks again for all your information.

Just found 17x8 45Et wheels for sale local to me, they would most likely fit even better with my stock suspension than the Grids... but i've always wanted Grids. Decisions, decisions.
An 8" wheel will look better yes. But the +35 offset will be harder to fit. The tire sidewall won't change. It will just look different. Depending on the tire, a 235 is still a bit of a stretch on an 8". But obviously not as much of a stretch as it is on a 9.

If you like the 17x8+45 that you found, I'd highly suggest those. If you're stuck on Grids, it may be worthwhile to suggest a Group Buy through Wheeldude to get the size you want.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:26 PM   #9440
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Jourdan, thank you very much. Your effort to help me is greatly appreciated.

*Another thing I just thought of... those who run aftermarket wheels, do you get the TPMS sensors switched over from OEM wheels to aftermarket wheels whenthe tires are installed?
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You're welcome.

I have moved my sensors. They've been on 4 sets of wheels now. They require special, single use, stems. You can get them at your local dealership. Each stem is something like $7. Once you have the right stem, you can add or remove the sensor as you like. But you will have to dismount the tire to get to the sensor.


Fun Fact: There's a federal law that prohibits disabling TPMS. Making it illegal to mount up wheels that don't have sensors.

But I have no idea how that law is supposed to be enforced.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:46 PM   #9442
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Nice tip on the tpms Jourdan.
That's a really weird law too btw, I'd definitely fail with my tpms light going off

Downhillsuby- just get a 17x8+35 or higher offset and you'll be good
With my setup, 17x8+35 w/ 245/45 /17 tires fits like a glove. Despite my car being lowered an inch or so, the wheels will still fit flush if that's the look your going for. Yet again, it is your car so do what will satisfy you.
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Same tuner
The header is from Lachute Performance (they are local to me), I was lucky to get one lightly used from one of their project cars.
Nice I think I'm going to have rallisport make me a custom performance header. If you don mind me asking was the lachute pricey? I can't find those headers!
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Nice tip on the tpms Jourdan.
That's a really weird law too btw, I'd definitely fail with my tpms light going off

Downhillsuby- just get a 17x8+35 or higher offset and you'll be good Thank you!
With my setup, 17x8+35 w/ 245/45 /17 tires fits like a glove. Despite my car being lowered an inch or so, the wheels will still fit flush if that's the look your going for. Yet again, it is your car so do what will satisfy you.
Post picture, please! I am actually tempted to purchase these 17x8 45ET Rota G-Force wheels but he's asking way over my budget. $950 with Falken tires.
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Nice I think I'm going to have rallisport make me a custom performance header. If you don mind me asking was the lachute pricey? I can't find those headers!
Scratch that found them but I can't speak French!
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Post picture, please! I am actually tempted to purchase these 17x8 45ET Rota G-Force wheels but he's asking way over my budget. $950 with Falken tires.
If the tires are relatively new I would say go for it.
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This is a direct side shot, you can see it barely shows.
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Thanks Kart, definately like that look of 17" without being slammed.

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You're welcome.

I have moved my sensors. They've been on 4 sets of wheels now. They require special, single use, stems. You can get them at your local dealership. Each stem is something like $7. Once you have the right stem, you can add or remove the sensor as you like. But you will have to dismount the tire to get to the sensor.

Fun Fact: There's a federal law that prohibits disabling TPMS. Making it illegal to mount up wheels that don't have sensors.

But I have no idea how that law is supposed to be enforced.
The law is only for shops. They can't disarm a TPMS that is working. If the lights already on then the law doesn't apply.
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Thanks Kart, definately like that look of 17" without being slammed.
No Problem!
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So if I was to slap on some aftermarket wheels without TPMS sensors on our Impreza... do we get a dash light/code or no?
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