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11-24-2013, 05:12 PM | #1 | |
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NHTSA claims power to regulate smartphones in cars, will issue guidelines next year
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/24/n...-will-issue-g/
I can see how how this can be taken to a horrible extreme or a relatively livable constraint. ;D The only reason why I care is because I use my smartphone as my dash cam. Other than that I'm more worried about OTHER people on the road trying to find workarounds so they can do dumbass things like text and drive. But at least there are going to be guidelines now. I'm sure that will make things easier on the horrible MyFord Touch system though LOL . Other people not wearing their seat belts is fine with me though as long as they're not in my car or my family. ;D Natural selection. Quote:
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11-24-2013, 07:41 PM | #2 |
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They should have speed based disabling of the texting function required on all phones. I can see people complaining because they may be a passenger or riding a train, but that's what happens when idiots ruin it for the rest of us.
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11-24-2013, 10:13 PM | #3 |
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Most phones already have imbedded motion detection. Most will automatically reply to messages stock answers like " I'm driving now and cannot text back. As for passengers most NAVS don't recognize a passenger is operating it. But smart people always know how to get around all these things anyway.
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11-24-2013, 10:26 PM | #4 |
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Wouldn't that require the GPS portion of the phone to be running all of the time?
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11-24-2013, 10:30 PM | #5 |
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Typical government overreaching. Next thing you know your own phone will lock you out when your engine is running or something equally obtuse. God forbid the passenger in my car answers my phone or replies to a text or changes the song for me.
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11-24-2013, 10:35 PM | #6 |
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Yes, because when I'm making the 12 hour drive home for holidays or even going 40 minutes across town with my wife i enjoy being in the passenger seat unable to communicate with anybody because some idiot ruined it. There are tons of things you could completely eliminate from public use because some idiots ruined it. Oh, some drive drunk so lets eliminate cars so they cant drive drunk.
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11-25-2013, 12:41 AM | #7 |
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Ban the assault-phones!
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11-25-2013, 07:41 AM | #8 |
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If you can't legally drive while using it, then it shouldn't be allowed to work while driving, simple as that. In fact it shouldn't be installed in the car where the driver could even have access to it. I am sick of the idiots texting, have a phone to their ear, fiddling with their large NAV screens, etc while driving with other peoples lives at risk. Lets get back to doing what the car was designed to do, and DRIVE!
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11-25-2013, 08:26 AM | #9 | |
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11-25-2013, 09:48 AM | #10 |
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It's more an issue of we have a society that lacks discretion and self control. Take 1 second to look over at nav and press "next" button? That causes no real issue. People look at their radios and side mirrors for that long and lose sight of direct ahead vision. The issue is when people stare at the nav or phone for 10 seconds at a time without bothering to keep tabs on what is going on around them.
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11-25-2013, 10:22 AM | #11 | |
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11-25-2013, 10:24 AM | #12 | |
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11-25-2013, 10:52 AM | #13 | |
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Seems like they might have the power to affect things which are part of the car, but not smartphones in general. Many people do not own a car, so a blanket "GPS says you are moving, therefore no texting" regulation on smartphones is not going to fly.
Along those lines, what I'd really like to see from automakers is for them to get out of the electronic gadget business altogether. The car has a lifespan of 11+ years, but the same is not true of electronic stuff like smartphones and navigation systems. We'd be better off with a simplification of the technology that is attached to the car, offloading all the good stuff to a smartphone. Just give me a nice big touchscreen and a standardized interface so my phone can use it. Quote:
Also, the only motion detection embedded into a phone is the GPS. Lots of phones have accelerometers, but that only works if you are accelerating. |
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11-25-2013, 11:15 AM | #14 |
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While it perturbs me when people are driving poorly due to being distracted by their smartphone, I cannot support any further government intrusion into this area. People need to be responsible for their own actions. If it is proven that use of a smartphone was directly related to the accident, then it should be a compounding factor in adjudicating the case. (Stiffer penalties for distracted driving)
Now I do understand that "proving" a driver was using their smartphone at the time of an accident would be difficult with current technology. But like with many, many things, when people do stupid things, the government responds by taking freedoms away from the people. I cannot support this. |
11-25-2013, 11:51 AM | #15 |
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11-25-2013, 12:18 PM | #16 |
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a good thing about this is manufacturers have to meet certain guidelines, and in doing so they'll have to advance some of the technologies to meet these guidelines. also allow these technologies to force and trickle down to cheaper cars. kind of like airbags.
a big thing i think is voice command, i think we are getting there but current systems are still not perfect. |
11-25-2013, 12:36 PM | #17 |
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Mixed feelings about this. I see a hell of a lot of people txting, mapping, and talking on their cell/smart phones while driving. It's definitely become a big problem in terms of the amount of distracted drivers on the road.
OTOH, it's already illegal here; $250 ticket I think, and they don't need another violation to pull you for it. I don't see why this can't just be handled legally, like any other traffic violation. As long as the penalty isn't just a slap on the wrist. |
11-25-2013, 12:49 PM | #18 | |
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11-25-2013, 12:59 PM | #19 |
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I agree but there are usually issues with actual enforcement. What good is a law if it is not enforced. Out here, texting and driving is illegal but doesn't stop people as I see it all the time. It just comes down to the mentality of what is a priority for them.
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11-25-2013, 01:19 PM | #20 |
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If the only way to stop people from texting while driving is to catch them in the act, it suggests to me that the problem is not actually texting while driving, but the perception.
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11-25-2013, 01:40 PM | #21 | |
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People speed around here in the strangest ways. They get on the interstate going 45 mph after merging, and then 10 minutes later they're on your ass going 75 in a 55, when you're already doing 64 (statistically the threshold for cops pulling you over is most likely 10-15 mph as shown in my remedial driving course after being caught street racing when I was 16). Cops around here have insanely high tolerances for speeders. Then again, we also have tons of checkpoints everywhere for drunk drivers because of how bad the problem had gotten. Still, ultimately lies with the law enforcers to sway public opinion if your population just decides it wants to ignore the law. I don't think adding MORE law or mandating it on the manufacturing side of things is a good answer. The more difficult way of changing the public opinion to look down on it is better in the long run, because it preserves freedom. |
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11-25-2013, 02:20 PM | #22 |
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Its a Toyota feature. Extremely annoying and they should probably allow it when there is a passenger (use the airbag weight sensor) in the car.
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11-25-2013, 02:21 PM | #23 |
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It probably has to be done. I've been driving since the late 80's and since the advent of smart phones the amount of people I see on the roads wandering in and out of their lane has gone up 500%. It literally went from the odd drunk driver you would see on a weekend to multiple cars daily as it's usually some girl with her head in her lap trying to text and drive. My issue is that there are way too many drivers on the roads today that are barely competent to driver under the perfect circumstances and when you introduce a distraction like a smart phone you are just asking for trouble.
How many of you have been stuck at a light that turns green because the idiot ahead of you is reading their phone and not looking at the lights. It's a big problem IMO and it's probably going to be dealt with much harsher in time as the distracted driving laws haven't stopped anyone. |
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11-25-2013, 05:20 PM | #25 | |
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