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Old 11-23-2016, 02:38 PM   #1
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WASHINGTON -- The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration today issued new voluntary guidelines aimed at curbing driver distraction from cell phones and other portable devices, extending the department’s reach to tech firms and app developers.

The guidelines apply to device makers and app developers such as Apple, Google and others, according to a NHTSA spokesman. They recommend that companies design their portable devices to be paired with in-car systems, and be operated using the vehicle’s user interface.

The guidelines also recommend disabling certain cell phone functions when paired with a vehicle, such as playing most video, text entry for messaging or internet browsing and displaying social media content.

Also, device makers that do not “lock out” those functions should offer a simplified “driver mode” interface that limits functionality even when not paired with a vehicle’s infotainment or navigation interface, the guidelines recommend.

“As millions of Americans take to the roads for Thanksgiving gatherings, far too many are put at risk by drivers who are distracted by their cellphones,” U.S. Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said in a statement.

“These common sense guidelines, grounded in the best research available, will help designers of mobile devices build products that cut down on distraction on the road.”

The guidelines released today are the second phase of recommendations issued by NHTSA to curb distracted driving, following recommendations for in-car systems issued in 2013.

They come as automakers install smart phone integration systems such as Apple’s CarPlay and Google’s Android Auto in an increasing number of new vehicle models. The systems display a simplified version of Android and Apple smart phone interfaces on vehicle touch screens and offer limited access to some applications and phone functions such as maps, text message dictation and phone use.

NHTSA says 10 percent of the 35,092 fatal crashes in 2015 involved at least one distracted driver, resulting in 3,477 fatalities, up 9 percent from 2014. Distraction was also factor in 16 percent of the 5.6 million non-fatal crashes in 2014, the most recent data available, the agency said.

Industry reaction

“We know that it’s critical that we all address distracted driving holistically -- so the Alliance will review these guidelines very carefully,” Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers spokesman Wade Newton said.

“We believe it’s important to encourage drivers to use in-vehicle systems rather than handheld personal electronic devices that were not engineered for use in the driving environment.”

A major trade group representing the consumer electronics industry blasted the non-binding guidelines, calling NHTSA’s move to influence smart phone and software design “disturbing” and an example of “the worst” of government overreach.

Gary Shapiro, CEO of the Consumer Technology Association, called the guidelines “de-facto” regulations that defy calls from lawmakers for the Obama administration to refrain from issuing new regulatory actions until the next administration.

“NHTSA doesn't have the authority to dictate the design of smartphone apps and other devices used in cars -- its legal jurisdiction begins and ends with motor vehicle equipment,” Shapiro said in the statement. “Under their vision, they would have the influence to control the design of technology products down to the fitness tracker worn on a driver. Such a vast and extreme expansion of NHTSA's authority, if it were to happen, would have to be explicitly granted by Congress.”

NHTSA said the guidelines released today are voluntary and non-binding, and not formal regulations.
I'm all for safety and as LONG as they stay "voluntary", "non-binding", and don't become "formal regulations", I don't have any problem with this.

Alternatively, NHTSA has something else coming if they plan on using this as a stepping stone to creating binding, involuntary, formal regulations that force smartphones into airplane mode or a lockout mode. China has nothing on this and their government loves censorship.
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Old 11-23-2016, 03:51 PM   #2
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This article gets us really close to a political discussion; I can see this one devloving pretty quickly... I really don't think that any binding regulations can be reached ever. There's just too many factors... kids and adults use phones while they're passengers in cars. Can't shut them off. Can't determine exactly who is driving. Can't stop a driver from using someone else's phone. No way can they turn every phone into a dummy phone when it's inside a car.

However, if a car manufacturer and cell phone manufacturer offered an app that forced my son's phone to go into a "dummy mode" when he was behind the wheel of his own car, I'd certainly activate it. I think some common sense offerings could be put on the table for parents to use, or adults to opt-in.
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They just won't pair the phone. The only thing that will curb these idiots behavior is law. Felony charges for holding a phone while driving. Watch that deal change overnight.
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Old 11-23-2016, 04:58 PM   #4
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Insurance discounts to encourage use?

More like raise rates of those that don't.
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Old 11-23-2016, 11:37 PM   #5
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They just won't pair the phone. The only thing that will curb these idiots behavior is law. Felony charges for holding a phone while driving. Watch that deal change overnight.
As much as I would like to see something like that happen, such as putting "hands on use" on the same level as OVUII/DUI, it just won't. One would think the monetary expense associated with a distracted driving/cell phone use citation would be enough to deter people, but it doesn't.
This situation will only help hasten the adoption of autonomous cars because being entertained by one's phone at all times is obviously more important than driving these days.
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Old 11-24-2016, 12:30 PM   #6
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We're at the point where you just need to trust people to do the right thing. Most people know they shouldn't be manually texting, reading emails, watching YouTube videos, etc. while driving just like they know they shouldn't be reading a book, knitting a scarf, etc. while driving. Perhaps try and increase awareness, but leave it at that. Christ.
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We're at the point where you just need to trust people to do the right thing. Most people know they shouldn't be manually texting, reading emails, watching YouTube videos, etc. while driving just like they know they shouldn't be reading a book, knitting a scarf, etc. while driving. Perhaps try and increase awareness, but leave it at that. Christ.
That won't change anything and these clowns are getting worse. New law on the books will be the only thing that changes the behavior. Studies say this is the same or worse than drunk driving. Drunk driving is illegal nationwide and comes with stiff penalties. Smart phone use, nothing.
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Smart phone use, nothing.
There are already lots of laws on the books.

http://www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/l...hone_laws.html

This chart (see link above) outlines state distracted driving laws. Some localities have additional regulations. Enforcement type is shown in parenthesis.
  • Hand-held Cell Phone Use: 14 states, D.C., Puerto Rico, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands prohibit all drivers from using hand-held cell phones while driving. All are primary enforcement laws—an officer may cite a driver for using a hand-held cell phone without any other traffic offense taking place.
  • All Cell Phone Use: No state bans all cell phone use for all drivers, but 38 states and D.C. ban all cell phone use by novice drivers, and 20 states and D.C. prohibit it for school bus drivers.
  • Text Messaging: Washington was the first state to pass a texting ban in 2007. Currently, 46 states, D.C., Puerto Rico, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands ban text messaging for all drivers. All but 5 have primary enforcement.
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There are already lots of laws on the books.
Here the only law on the books is in school zones. Driving while smart phoning is rampant and it is a serious problem here. Throw them all in jail.
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They just won't pair the phone. The only thing that will curb these idiots behavior is law. Felony charges for holding a phone while driving. Watch that deal change overnight.
I hope to God they don't add more unnecessary legislation... Officers can pull you over and just tag it as destractive driving. Sort of like the crazy peeps that drive with there knees while putting on makeup or other nonsensical reasons.
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Here the only law on the books is in school zones. Driving while smart phoning is rampant and it is a serious problem here. Throw them all in jail.
School Zones. Don't even get me started. You want to improve school zone safety? I have one easy to implement suggestion. Right turns only out of schools and no lefts into schools across traffic. No left turns across traffic making anyone wait or "having to get in/out fast" in a small hole. Only one direction to look. (Unless it's a one way or dead end or something). The only way someone should be able to make a left is a signal or cop directing traffic.

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Custom application development https://www.ego-cms.com/custom-app-development is the conceptualizing, designing, deploying and maintaining software for a specific set of users, functions, and organizations. Custom application development is done to fulfill certain processes resulting in the lowering of training costs.

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I hope to God they don't add more unnecessary legislation... Officers can pull you over and just tag it as destractive driving. Sort of like the crazy peeps that drive with there knees while putting on makeup or other nonsensical reasons.
What else is going to stop it man? It’s an epidemic. Driving while smartphoning is just one issue. Movie theater? I do not even go anymore. The phones pushed me out, permanently. Now it is the gym. And at some point this year I will take care of that and put in a full home gym where I can do everything I do in the commercial gym at home. I did the same thing with HT and I am just this year going to pay that off. As soon as I pay it off, home gym time. Driving? I drive less now than I ever have because of the phones. I just had to go my cousins birthday dinner and it was 90 miles each way. I could not count how many fast lane blockers there were. Going 10 mph under the speed limit. It would take me 5 minutes to get around them, and as I drive by and look over, head down on phone. Both ways, multiple times.

I am not a big fan of legislation either but we all have to realize we have a crack like addiction problem rampant in society. Phones man, it’s the new crack. I get in people’s ass at the gym and tell them to put their f’in pacifier away or get off the bench/machine. How stupid are people today? They are dumber to me than in the 90’s. You pay $17.50 for a movie ticket only to play on your phone in the theater. You go to a commercial gym to workout only to play on your phone. I see f’s in there playing some stupid video game on the phone camping on equipment. I’m like dude, you can do that at home. Then there is the driving. Slow driving, swerving, sitting at a green light. F me it needs to stop. Arrests are the only thing that will change the behavior. They are addicted like crack addicts. First time offense, stiff fine, 2nd offense, instant arrest and equivalent to DUI. Watch the behavior change overnight.

This hit me hard just recently. I have my usual insurance meeting with my broker in late December for all renewals, home, auto, bikes, pwc, 4 different policies. It is usually a bad phone call and sucks to get it during holiday time because I’m already tired of the holidays at that point. Lines, traffic, just to do normal things like groceries. Well this year it was a good call. $120 annual decrease on homeowners. $500 decrease on bikes (unheard of) and my pwc policy dropped $50. Then he gets to auto, $1200 decrease in annual premium. I said Holy F are you kidding? Then he says yeah but that decrease is dependent on me running the insurance company app for 90 days to monitor me and my driving. They are mainly looking for you fiddling with your phone while driving but also hard acceleration, which I do all the time in my DD, especially when I’m at a stop sign and have to instantly merge to a 55 MPH service road. And hard braking and speeding and I definitely speed on our tollways. Say 80 mph in a 70 mph because I know how to drive, and I’m paying to be on the damn tollway. I can put up with it for 90 days. But what is f’d is I use my phone for tracks when I ride my bikes or ski. So now my auto policy carrier is going to see my breaking the law speeds on my bikes out in the desolate country, and seeing instant full throttle on the lake? They told me “You can go into the app and add notes that you were on different vehicles” and I’m like yeah right, like I want them knowing this. I have zero tickets, no accidents, homeowner, my vehicles are all garaged sans one and I built a massive carport and cocooned it in with with would like a tunnel to protect my truck from hail, or anything outside. Unless a tornado whips through here, ain’t making no claims on auto. So even though I break the law but have spent a lot of $ in training at tracks on bikes and in cars I have to run an app now if I don’t want to pay the outrageous auto premiums because of smartphone using f sticks. I never touch the phone in an auto while driving. If something elaborate comes up I pull over, into a parking lot, take care of it then start driving again. The pandemic is largely the same. We make up 20% of the world deaths because people are just stupid and don’t think about anyone but themselves. I don’t know how we stop this narcissistic behavior and distracted phone use but it needs to stop. People are dying. I know Police officers from Schutzhund work who tell me the phone distraction accidents are worse to work than DUI. IE more dangerous with messier cleanup. What is going to happen is the wireless carrier, or phone mfr. is going to end up tracking us 24/7 and reporting our behavior to insurance. More privacy down the tubes and the majority fin life and society up for the majority yet again. I’m tired of it.
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^^^ Possible solution(s): Put ins. co. tracking app on a separate phone for when you plan on driving "normally", or put your phone in some kind of signal-blocking case and load the "track apps" on another phone for track days and other recreational activities. I dunno...
Just turn mine off when driving (not sure if app would still be able to get location data from phone though).
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That sounds like a deal with the devil.
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I'm all for safety and as LONG as they stay "voluntary", "non-binding", and don't become "formal regulations", I don't have any problem with this.
When does ANYTHING any gov't agency starts out as "voluntary" stay voluntary?
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Hey everyone, I'm new to this forum and just stumbled upon this thread. It's crazy how addicted people are to their smartphones these days, especially while driving. I think it's great that NHTSA is trying to tackle this issue by targeting app developers and tech firms. I mean, who wants to risk their life just to check their Instagram feed while driving, amirite?
Besides, it seems like those actions are taken seriously. For instance, I've been seeing a lot of job postings for software developers lately, and I found this website, starnavi.io , that lists a bunch of opportunities.

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