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Old 05-30-2020, 07:07 AM   #1826
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Here you go, I searched back the pics I made.
Remember these are only fast and badly photoshoped interpretations.
I took pieces of older WRX's and put them together on the Levorg body.
I remember these pics. now these photoshops look way better. but still the one thing we are really waiting on is the power figures, the interior, and body styles. they are trying really hard to keep the wrx and STI under wraps. they don't want the forums to explode just yet.
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:12 AM   #1827
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Sedan looks pretty good.

Hatch looks pretty bad.

Wagon is bester interpolation.
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Old 05-30-2020, 09:43 AM   #1828
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I have to have one SUV in the family and one other vehicle. Both need to be autos so my wife can drive both on days I need to take the dog into the vet or pick up bulk items from Home Depot. Right now that vehicle is an Accord Touring 2.0. Which is a really fun car if tuned a bit soft for the mass public. But a proper WRX with a DCT might be able to replace it in a few years. The Accord really does like 95% of things damn well. Adjustable dampers wake up the handling.
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Old 05-30-2020, 01:21 PM   #1829
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There's a lot going on in the facia.. Not sure I like yet.
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Old 05-30-2020, 06:16 PM   #1830
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Rear bumper humps on either side of the trunk needs to go up to the bottom of the taillights and apply the same smiley face character line to form the shape of the bumper sill and trunk. I think the photoshop bumper is a few inches too low if we apply what the current car's rear looks like to the concept.
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:01 PM   #1831
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Rear bumper humps on either side of the trunk needs to go up to the bottom of the taillights and apply the same smiley face character line to form the shape of the bumper sill and trunk. I think the photoshop bumper is a few inches too low if we apply what the current car's rear looks like to the concept.
well the levorg followed the concept they based it on. there is still hope the wrx and STI follow along the lines of the performance concept. they are trying hard to keep away any spyshots or leaks right now
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:38 PM   #1832
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The greenhouse and roofline is going to be the Levorg’s not the VIZIV concept. So the photoshop is more in line with reality if the suggestion I made about raising up the bumper humps to the bottom of the taillights and follow suit with the bumper sill. The concept has zero sill which is not making it to production.
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Old 05-30-2020, 09:20 PM   #1833
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That CTRified Subaru concept is even worse than the first quick and dirty photoshop the other guy did. Itís so goddamn ugly I canít believe it.
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Old 05-31-2020, 10:18 AM   #1834
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There's a lot going on in the facia.. Not sure I like yet.
THIS

That front end is a complete disaster. Way too busy. Just a cluster****. Extremely poor, amateurish design language.
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Old 05-31-2020, 04:06 PM   #1835
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There are obvious and clear differences between the two Viziv Concepts.




I don't think the WRX/STI design scheme is going to deviate much from the Viziv Performance Concept based on how close the Viziv Tourer Concept came in execution to the production Levorg. The similarities of the two concepts will likely be shared in production version, but the differences should stay unique to either.



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Old 05-31-2020, 04:57 PM   #1836
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There are obvious and clear differences between the two Viziv Concepts.




I don't think the WRX/STI design scheme is going to deviate much from the Viziv Performance Concept based on how close the Viziv Tourer Concept came in execution to the production Levorg. The similarities of the two concepts will likely be shared in production version, but the differences should stay unique to either.



exactly that is why I still have hope for the wrx and STI. those similarities between the subaru levorg and the viziv tourer concept is very close and properly executed. the wrx and STI concept based off the viziv performance concept have not yet been seen. we are waiting to see that. with the LA auto show most likely canceled this year, is it possible subaru has subaru sponsored media event for only the press similar to subaru ascent reveal.
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Old 05-31-2020, 06:04 PM   #1837
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Yeah I've said before the new levorg is probably the closest concept to production transition we've seen from Subaru for a long time.

But I'm unsure how they're going to turn the supercar hips and difuser of the sti concept into production. The hips stick out massively from the car where you can put a dinner plate on the top of the hips, and that wild difuser will give way for a lame bumper? The front and sides should look close though.
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Old 05-31-2020, 07:05 PM   #1838
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I hope they bring back large fog lights. I never used them much, but they were nice to have.
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Old 05-31-2020, 08:26 PM   #1839
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Yeah I've said before the new levorg is probably the closest concept to production transition we've seen from Subaru for a long time.

But I'm unsure how they're going to turn the supercar hips and difuser of the sti concept into production. The hips stick out massively from the car where you can put a dinner plate on the top of the hips, and that wild difuser will give way for a lame bumper? The front and sides should look close though.
The hips were wide on the wagon concept too. They were much more subtle on the production spec car. I imagine the STI will have similar haunches but flared out more to accept wider wheels.
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:34 PM   #1840
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Rear bumper humps on either side of the trunk needs to go up to the bottom of the taillights and apply the same smiley face character line to form the shape of the bumper sill and trunk. I think the photoshop bumper is a few inches too low if we apply what the current car's rear looks like to the concept.
I just hope the rear of the car is a little more defined. I feel like on the current models it just drops off into nothing, making the car look awkward from a side profile. I've considered removing the wing on my 2018 STI and when I had my 2015 STI, but I just can't commit based on the current design.

The rear wing on the STI looks juvenile, but the rear end on the WRX just looks absent. It made it necessary for me to keep my wing on my STI, even though I'd like to have a more mature looking vehicle, being almost 35. I miss the beefy looking rear end on my 2013 sedan, along with the larger spoiler. The 2015+ model just looks wimpy and the little lip spoiler reminds me of the 00's Cavalier. I chose beefier and juvenile over wimpy. I'd like a compromise on this next model for me to reconsider purchasing another, eventually.

That and I'd need an exhaust that doesn't sound like garbage compared to the current WRX. Japlopnik even had it listed in their top 10 worst sounding motors. Cabin sound is also very important to me, especially if I'm staying stock, like my 2018. Sorry if that offends anyone. I don't drive my cars very fast, but I love listening to the motor and letting the rpm's slowly roll up and down. It sounds even better with the windows open.

Otherwise, the Mustang GT Track Package and Camaro SS 1LE are looking very appealing for my 1st large displacement V8 alternative. But, I just don't need that much power and I like 4 doors. I'm hoping this works out in my favor.
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Old 06-10-2020, 07:55 PM   #1841
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I'm crossing all my fingers for the return of a wagon. My 15 supercharged A6 is a beautiful car, but made it very apparent I don't want on an auto in my life. Now that the new TLX Type S is confirmed to be auto only, it's down to the upcoming WRX/STi, or MK8 Golf R.

Also, I think that sedan STi concept is stunning.
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Old 06-10-2020, 10:33 PM   #1842
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Think they will keep the same cvt or put a better auto in the wrx?
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Old 06-10-2020, 10:50 PM   #1843
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Think they will keep the same cvt or put a better auto in the wrx?
it is possible they cvt based on the ones in the legacy, outback, and ascent but designed to handle much more torque in the wrx. but the STI has avoided an automatic in the USDM. will we get an auto option in the STI and what type will it be, we just don't know. will the wrx and STI have the same auto option we still don't know. JDM I believe already has an automatic STI.
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Old 06-11-2020, 01:28 AM   #1844
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I just hope the rear of the car is a little more defined. I feel like on the current models it just drops off into nothing, making the car look awkward from a side profile. I've considered removing the wing on my 2018 STI and when I had my 2015 STI, but I just can't commit based on the current design.

The rear wing on the STI looks juvenile, but the rear end on the WRX just looks absent. It made it necessary for me to keep my wing on my STI, even though I'd like to have a more mature looking vehicle, being almost 35. I miss the beefy looking rear end on my 2013 sedan, along with the larger spoiler. The 2015+ model just looks wimpy and the little lip spoiler reminds me of the 00's Cavalier. I chose beefier and juvenile over wimpy. I'd like a compromise on this next model for me to reconsider purchasing another, eventually.

That and I'd need an exhaust that doesn't sound like garbage compared to the current WRX. Japlopnik even had it listed in their top 10 worst sounding motors. Cabin sound is also very important to me, especially if I'm staying stock, like my 2018. Sorry if that offends anyone. I don't drive my cars very fast, but I love listening to the motor and letting the rpm's slowly roll up and down. It sounds even better with the windows open.

Otherwise, the Mustang GT Track Package and Camaro SS 1LE are looking very appealing for my 1st large displacement V8 alternative. But, I just don't need that much power and I like 4 doors. I'm hoping this works out in my favor.
We are not sure how much SGP Gen2 Impreza is going to change from current or if WRX is going to be based on Gen1 or Gen2. Here's Gen1 2020 rear shot:



I'm willing to bet the taillights will be more like the Levorg in design but besides a more aggressive lower valance and exhaust and fenders flaring past the sides of the taillights, not much about the overall shape should change from this. Could be wrong and Gen2 gets more aggressive with the SGP WRX, but that roofline, rear window, trunk lid, and sill are likely staying.
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Old 06-11-2020, 01:37 AM   #1845
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I just hope the rear of the car is a little more defined. I feel like on the current models it just drops off into nothing, making the car look awkward from a side profile. I've considered removing the wing on my 2018 STI and when I had my 2015 STI, but I just can't commit based on the current design.

The rear wing on the STI looks juvenile, but the rear end on the WRX just looks absent. It made it necessary for me to keep my wing on my STI, even though I'd like to have a more mature looking vehicle, being almost 35. I miss the beefy looking rear end on my 2013 sedan, along with the larger spoiler. The 2015+ model just looks wimpy and the little lip spoiler reminds me of the 00's Cavalier. I chose beefier and juvenile over wimpy. I'd like a compromise on this next model for me to reconsider purchasing another, eventually.
I have a love/hate with the wing. I agree, without it, it's unbalanced. With it, it looks too big. The rear lip spoiler doesn't look right either. The rear of the current get has always bugged me, I hope the next gen is better.

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... I love listening to the motor and letting the rpm's slowly roll up and down. It sounds even better with the windows open.

Otherwise, the Mustang GT Track Package and Camaro SS 1LE are looking very appealing for my 1st large displacement V8 alternative. But, I just don't need that much power and I like 4 doors. I'm hoping this works out in my favor.
I was in the same place mentally and the current incentives from Ford were too good to pass up. Scored a left over 2019 Bullitt Mustang. Coming from a 2017 WRX and having several Subarus prior, I can tell you that you won't be disappointed with a Mustang. Just make sure you get the 5.0, Performance package, and Magna-ride.
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Old 06-11-2020, 04:21 PM   #1847
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There are so many things wrong with that rear end that I don't even know where to start. Maybe from a different angle or color it looks less of an abomination but I'm now officially very worried about what the next gen WRX/STI may look like.
That's exactly what's wrong with the current WRX from my point of view. It looks great from a lot of angles. But, then there are certain side profile angles that the rear end just looks non existent.


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Get a car now, then get a new STI after it's been out for a year or two.
Kind of off-top, but I had a 15 STI, which I traded my 13 for and purchased 'right out of the gate.' I now have an 18. I would have kept my 15, but Subaru gave me a $4,000 good will credit, because of repeated suspension issues, prior to any negotiations or potential trade-in. That said, the mid-cycle refresh on my 18 made it look and feel like an upgraded car, despite the small changes. The ride quality is ever-so slightly better, I like the look much better, it's quieter, and small interior changes are nice. That, and the options for Recaro's and the standard upgraded brakes are awesome. For some reason, the Recaros make the interior feel night and day. Even the minor changes to the clutch engagement area great.

I'm all for waiting for the refresh of most any car. If it sucks, I can always pick up one of the remaining pre-changed cars. That, and it gives me more time to save so I can write my check and drive away with total ownership. That's always a great feeling. If I pick up another STI, it will be after a few year wait. Again though, if it sounds like a terrible FA motor, I'm out. If the rear end isn't sufficient enough to buy without a giant spoiler, I'm out. (I'll be nearing 40 before looking to purchase.)
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Similar boat. I'll be 36 this August and by the time there's even potentially an STI to upgrade to I'll be that much closer to 40. I'm not in any real rush, but I also don't want to wait forever.
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No wings for me. I’ve had my hay day with the big ass wing. It was fun in my 20s.
The styling could really make or break it for me. I have a feeling it will be just more of the same sedan action with lip or coffee table..
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I was in the same place mentally and the current incentives from Ford were too good to pass up. Scored a left over 2019 Bullitt Mustang. Coming from a 2017 WRX and having several Subarus prior, I can tell you that you won't be disappointed with a Mustang. Just make sure you get the 5.0, Performance package, and Magna-ride.
Absolutely. I'm not a "stance" person by any means, but I'd be all over the PP2 if there wasn't such a massive wheel gap. I could swing the car I'd really want, the GT350, but I just don't know if I can justify myself spending $60k on a car. As much as I've never liked GM, I have to admit that the Camaro SS 1LE seems to be an incredible buy. For once, I like the way a Camaro looks. Unless Subaru has some tricks up its sleeve, I'll probably venture out into the high displacement market, despite my complete lack of need for big power.

I care very little about speed, so I love the performance of my 2018 STI. But, I need to hear something that sounds somewhat burly. Listening to the car is a huge part of the driving experience, and it's hard to top a large displacement motor, outside of my love for the "boxer rumble" sound. I have a feeling the unique rumble sound is gone for good, only to be replaced with the toneless buzzing sound of an FA motor. It could be the car of the century, but I would never be able to get over absolutely hating the sound.
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