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11-07-2012, 10:48 PM | #2326 |
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11-08-2012, 12:57 AM | #2327 | |
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11-08-2012, 03:19 PM | #2328 |
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11-08-2012, 03:49 PM | #2329 | |
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no, i have a sport premium with the cvt
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lol , that is a great possibility. while i do occasionally look over to see stares the wind noise and music usually will block out any external noises/sounds. |
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11-08-2012, 06:28 PM | #2330 | |
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Distance travelled to date - 1630.0 km (approx 1012.8 miles) 42.347 litres (11.19 US gallons) for 429.6 km (266.9 miles), 9.857 l/100km (23.86 MPG). Meter reading was 9.2 l/100km (25.57 MPG) Average over four fuel-ups: 166.514 litres (44.0 US gallons) for 1630.0 km travelled (1012.8 miles) = 10.216 l/100km (23.02 MPG) About 90% in craptastic city traffic. On the bright side, I'm done with the official break-in period. Last edited by lymphomaniac; 11-15-2012 at 03:47 PM. Reason: correcting MPG - misstated Imperial instead of US Gal |
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11-08-2012, 07:49 PM | #2331 |
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11-11-2012, 06:07 PM | #2332 |
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11-14-2012, 10:18 AM | #2333 |
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I just filled up again, 26.7 mpg. Same commute, in the summer I was getting around 28mpg consistently, but now that temps are cooler I'm back to getting the same mileage as when I got it new. I love everything about the car except the mileage. My previous impreza, same commute, got the EPA hwy mileage of 26mpg, this car 27mpg, I was definitely expecting to at least get in the low 30s. Heck, the 06 Baja T that I had before even got around 22mpg in the winter on my commute and was rated much lower! I'm considering trading it in this summer/fall on a Forester XT, once I wait and hear what the real world mpg is one those.
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11-14-2012, 10:47 AM | #2334 | |
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The Forester will be a PZEV (not sure if you current car is) and that alone can increase cold start fuel consumption. But looking back you wanted a Forester to begin with, so who cares if you take a hit on depreciation. But let us know if this is not the case. Some people claim the Impreza is so underpowered that they feel the need to floor it more often, which they would not do if the car had more power. Last edited by Zeeper; 11-14-2012 at 11:05 AM. |
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11-14-2012, 11:27 AM | #2335 | |
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I want to wait and see what the Foresters get in the real world once people start getting them this winter. I'm leaning toward getting the XT because I don't want another under powered car, but with my commute I want decent mileage too. |
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11-14-2012, 02:38 PM | #2336 | |
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Really!? Floor it to merge? Up here in Minneapolis/StPaul I've rarely if ever floored it or even gone over 4k rpm. I typically merge with on/off ramps at a speed of 55 to 70 mph. On rural highways where its a simple right-hand turn and accelerate to 55-60, then its just a matter of a little patience and wait for a gap so you don't have to floor it. |
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11-14-2012, 02:47 PM | #2337 | |
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11-14-2012, 10:20 PM | #2338 | |
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if you are comparing to STI... then.. no wonder why... |
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11-14-2012, 11:15 PM | #2339 |
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What do you mean STis are slow.
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11-15-2012, 12:11 AM | #2340 | |
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Distance travelled to date - 2058.9 km (approx 1279.3 miles) 43.724 litres (11.55 US gallons) for 428.9 km (266.5 miles), 10.194 l/100km (23.07 MPG). Meter reading was 9.2 l/100km (25.57 MPG) Average over five fuel-ups: 210.238 litres (55.54 US gallons) for 2058.9 km travelled (1279.3 miles) = 10.211 l/100km (23.04 MPG) 95+% in craptastic city traffic. Although I'm reserving comment on the fuel consumption vs. EPA figures until I've had a year or so to cycle through the various fuel types, one thing is certain: the fuel consumption figures on the meter are over-optimistic (ie. under-estimating fuel consumption) compared to actual fuel consumption. I have a few theories about this. 1. Fuel. I don't know where the first tank of gas came from (Japan? At the port in Vancouver?), it was the only tank of gas where the meter was over-estimating fuel consumption. All other gasoline fed into the tank was Chevron 87. My gut feeling says ethanol content is to blame. 2. Meter. The meter might be using some sort of algorithm that measures fuel consumption and only retains the last 100 or so km travelled. This could explain why fuel consumption info is so biased for the last few tanks of gasoline. Doesn't really explain the first tank, but that could be an outlier. 3. Fuel delivery. The engine is consuming more gasoline than the computer is measuring. However, like the last point, it doesn't explain the first tank of gasoline (outlier again?). I'm going to continue to monitor the difference between the fuel consumption reading and my own calculations. If the figures remain grossly divergent, then I'll have to ask one of the techs to have a look at the meter. Last edited by lymphomaniac; 11-15-2012 at 03:46 PM. Reason: correcting MPG for 4th fuel up and f.c. meter - misstated Imperial instead of US Gal |
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11-15-2012, 12:17 AM | #2341 |
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Your meter is fine, this is known issue. The odometer for the US cars is off as well. That factor can compensate for some of the error. You can have the dealer adjust your consumption display if it bothers you.
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11-15-2012, 03:21 PM | #2342 |
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I doubt ethanol is fully to blame. Sure it has less energy and all, but we have to burn it 100% of the time here in MN. 10% mix all year. Yet when the winter blend gas comes (still with 10% ethanol), mpg takes a good hit of about 3 to 4 mpg. There are so many additives in today's gasoline who knows whats the real cause.
I was gettting 35 to sometimes 37mpg this past summer. Now since mid October its dropped to 32ish. Ethanol content didn't change. Did I read your calculations right??? Rour gauge says 30mpg and you calculated 23?? thats way off. Most of us are off by 1 to 3 mpg. Last edited by jd_24; 11-15-2012 at 03:22 PM. Reason: typo |
11-15-2012, 03:44 PM | #2343 | |
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(EDIT: As an example, I was getting approx. 600 km to the tank (a 50 L tank capacity); when the new laws came into effect, I was getting closer to 450 km to the tank. The effect was so pronounced that it was noticeable when I was starting to hit empty faster even though there was no change in my driving style or routine.) You are reading my calculations correct, even though I am using the wrong units. I'm using between 500 mL and 1 L more per 100 km than my meter is suggesting (approximately 10% difference). This translates to about 2-4 less MPG. This would be approximately in line with your experience. (I'll go back and correct the incorrectly calculated figures...) Last edited by lymphomaniac; 11-15-2012 at 03:53 PM. Reason: Providing example |
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11-15-2012, 04:18 PM | #2344 |
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Wanted to post up some fuelly numbers. I have been tracking since I took delivery on my 2013 Sport Prem. CVT. It had 6 miles on it. I have noticed that the est MPG is pretty generous in the car when I compare it with actual. The car typically reads about 1.5 MPG higher than actual which bugs the hell out of me, but oh well.
Link to car stats Miles Driven- 2329 Gallons Consumed- 83.96 (8 fill-ups) Average MPG- 29.9 mpg Driving Style- 20% city, 80% freeway (by time, not miles) I just saw a huge drop-off in mpg's a few weeks ago and was thinking that this was due to the winter gas that is now being offered. I only fill up at the same station (shell) to keep the reading as accurate as possible. |
11-15-2012, 09:55 PM | #2345 | |
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Posted on another thread but relevant here - comparison of Consumer Reports highway mpg figures with "EPA procedure" figures which were actually done by Subaru.
I took flyboy1100's links to Consumer Reports and posted the relevant numbers here. In the case of multiple tests, I will take the one on the right, which is the most current. The first column is the Consumer Reports (independent) Highway figure. The second is the alleged EPA (by Subaru) highway figure. The third is the ratio of the CR to the EPA figures. You will notice they are all over 1, except the Impreza. In fact, when compared to the ratio of the others in the field (of your choice) The Impreza is *over 2 standard deviations* below the field. Brand CR EPA CR/EPA Mazda 3 34 29 1.17 Focus 39 37 1.05 Cruze 40 39 1.03 Corolla 39 35 1.11 Civic HF 49 39 1.26 Lancer 28 25 1.12 Mazda 2 40 35 1.14 Honda Fit 39 35 1.11 Impreza 35 36 0.97 Quote:
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11-15-2012, 10:35 PM | #2346 | |
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11-15-2012, 11:15 PM | #2347 |
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11-16-2012, 08:29 AM | #2348 |
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11-16-2012, 08:40 AM | #2349 |
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Yep - Would have quit by now except for a couple of bozos that keep putting out misleading information, saying that the advertising is not misleading. Well, over two standard deviations from the norm is indeed at least "misleading". The reality is that we bought cars (at least those of us who bought cvt's) under false advertising.
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11-16-2012, 08:55 AM | #2350 |
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Please do us all a favor and keep the crazy back and forth confined to the other thread...don't worry, we are all reading it for one reason or another.
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