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Old 08-14-2011, 05:09 PM   #1
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My first OT thread....be kind!

I'm leaving in 4 days to start my first semester at Southern Illinois University Carbondale. Been wanting to be a pilot since I was a kid and I got accepted into their aviation program

Anyways, just wondering what path you guys took and where you stand now?

Also, where you intimidated by all the information you have to grasp? I have a feeling that learning how to communicate with the towers is gonna be a pain
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:12 PM   #3
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terrific, thanks for sharing.

maybe you should learn the correct usage of they're/their/there in the four days you have.
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:13 PM   #4
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Professional Pilot for an airline or something?

My buddy's little bro went to riddle, and got his commercial multi while he was there. His parents sure payed a pretty penny for that.
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:16 PM   #6
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My first OT thread....be kind!

I'm leaving in 4 days to start my first semester at Southern Illinois University Carbondale. Been wanting to be a pilot since I was a kid and I got accepted into there aviation program

Anyways, just wondering what path you guys took and where you stand now?

Also, where you intimidated by all the information you have to grasp? I have a feeling that learning how to communicate with the towers is gonna be a pain
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:25 PM   #7
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Yes. Have you thoroughly researched this career choice as well as the path you are taking to obtain your goals?

Being a pilot means years of very low pay just for a shot at the big time. When you make it to the high paying gig you will be laid off, and because piloting is 70-80% union you will start at the very bottom of the industry again.

This will happen over and over until you leave the industry or retire divorced with your kids neglecting to call you because you missed most of their lives.

My real advice is DON'T TAKE ON ANY STUDENT LOANS. As long as you are working your way through your degree and ratings in the end money won't be so important so you can enjoy yourself. DO NOT TAKE OUT A SINGLE LOAN. If this program requires loans, quit it now. Go get a 2 year degree to start at a community college and learn at a local flight school. Transfer to a 4 year and get your bachelors. Take the route that will get you quickest to someone else paying for the flight time. Colleges don't encourage this, but the faster someone else is paying for the gas the quicker you can build real time.

All this is just my opinion but I have been in this industry for my whole life and have seen tons of guys buried in debt and not enjoying themselves, crippling their career choices.

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Old 08-14-2011, 05:35 PM   #8
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Yes. Have you thoroughly researched this career choice as well as the path you are taking to obtain your goals?

Being a pilot means years of very low pay just for a shot at the big time. When you make it to the high paying gig you will be laid off, and because piloting is 70-80% union you will start at the very bottom of the industry again.

This will happen over and over until you leave the industry or retire divorced with your kids neglecting to call you because you missed most of their lives.

My real advice is DON'T TAKE ON ANY STUDENT LOANS. As long as you are working your way through your degree and ratings in the end money won't be so important so you can enjoy yourself. DO NOT TAKE OUT A SINGLE LOAN. If this program requires loans, quit it now. Go get a 2 year degree to start at a community college and learn at a local flight school. Transfer to a 4 year and get your bachelors. Take the route that will get you quickest to someone else paying for the flight time. Colleges don't encourage this, but the faster someone else is paying for the gas the quicker you can build real time.

All this is just my opinion but I have been in this industry for my whole life and have seen tons of guys buried in debt and not enjoying themselves, crippling their career choices.
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:36 PM   #9
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there isnt much glory in being a pilot these days unless you are military
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:37 PM   #10
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..... SEARCH .....

Then **** off.
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:40 PM   #12
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there isnt much glory in being a pilot these days unless you are military
there's a lot of BS there, too...
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:40 PM   #13
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Yes. Have you thoroughly researched this career choice as well as the path you are taking to obtain your goals?

Being a pilot means years of very low pay just for a shot at the big time. When you make it to the high paying gig you will be laid off, and because piloting is 70-80% union you will start at the very bottom of the industry again.

This will happen over and over until you leave the industry or retire divorced with your kids neglecting to call you because you missed most of their lives.

My real advice is DON'T TAKE ON ANY STUDENT LOANS. As long as you are working your way through your degree and ratings in the end money won't be so important so you can enjoy yourself. DO NOT TAKE OUT A SINGLE LOAN. If this program requires loans, quit it now. Go get a 2 year degree to start at a community college and learn at a local flight school. Transfer to a 4 year and get your bachelors. Take the route that will get you quickest to someone else paying for the flight time. Colleges don't encourage this, but the faster someone else is paying for the gas the quicker you can build real time.

All this is just my opinion but I have been in this industry for my whole life and have seen tons of guys buried in debt and not enjoying themselves, crippling their career choices.

YES, DO NOT TAKE OUT LOANS!!!!

i feel like they're almost too easy to get. the loan companies pander to kids who want to go to school. they're about as bad as credit cards, maybe worse. work through it, get grants if you can, but don't get a loan. prease!!!
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:42 PM   #14
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I'm not against the military option, thats actually what I was planning on doing. Any help or comments on that?
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:44 PM   #15
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Yes. Have you thoroughly researched this career choice as well as the path you are taking to obtain your goals?

Being a pilot means years of very low pay just for a shot at the big time. When you make it to the high paying gig you will be laid off, and because piloting is 70-80% union you will start at the very bottom of the industry again.

This will happen over and over until you leave the industry or retire divorced with your kids neglecting to call you because you missed most of their lives.

My real advice is DON'T TAKE ON ANY STUDENT LOANS. As long as you are working your way through your degree and ratings in the end money won't be so important so you can enjoy yourself. DO NOT TAKE OUT A SINGLE LOAN. If this program requires loans, quit it now. Go get a 2 year degree to start at a community college and learn at a local flight school. Transfer to a 4 year and get your bachelors. Take the route that will get you quickest to someone else paying for the flight time. Colleges don't encourage this, but the faster someone else is paying for the gas the quicker you can build real time.

All this is just my opinion but I have been in this industry for my whole life and have seen tons of guys buried in debt and not enjoying themselves, crippling their career choices.
How about pilots in Australia and the UK? Are they taking it up the rear end or is this only in America?
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i know a guy that's a veteran pilot. i think he started military but he does high level cargo flying all over the world. he has some pretty funny stories. he flew the pope-mobile once. (well transported it).

another time, they were flying some guys lambo, and one of the guys in the crew thought it would be funny to sit in it to get pics during the flight. well he sat in it, and there was some sort of alarm that locked the doors. he was stuck in there til they got to where they were going. i guess they had some 'splainin to do!
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It is a tough road to get in, but they pay for everything when you are there. It comes with its own set of B.S. but nothing in life is easy and when things are difficult it usually means that they are worth it.

To clarify on the loans, this is a job that will start you off for about McDonald's wages for about your first 5 years no matter where you go. If you are struggling under $50k+ in loans life just got unlivable. Just work your way through slowly. Go get your private first at a local school and see how you like it while starting with your degree. You may hate this, so don't ramrod yourself with tons of expense and a high pressure sales team at the college.
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Since when are you oriental?
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How about pilots in Australia and the UK? Are they taking it up the rear end or is this only in America?
Even worse. Google Ryanair. Lots of overseas companies actually make the pilots pay them to fly with them. People are so desperate to get into the industry that they do.
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What does an aviation program involve? What do you get your degree in? How much does it cost? Do you think it's going to give you a leg up on your competition in the job market? What are your career goals? Do you know what type of flying you want to do? Have you been involved in any way with aviation before? Give us a little background dude.
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Kinda scary knowing that the domestic planes I flew on were piloted by starving pilots.
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Ahh now I'm completely confused on what to do. I've already payed for a bunch of my school stuff, I'd rather try to stay in college. Looks like I'm definatly going the military route. I honestly dont know what else I would do in my life because I've been thinking "pilot pilot pilot" since I was 8.

AFROTC? Straight to Air Force? Help!? Im completely confused right now
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Kinda scary knowing that the domestic planes I flew on were piloted by starving pilots.
What if they passed out from the hunger????!
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Kinda scary knowing that the domestic planes I flew on were piloted by starving pilots.
They are qualified, but at the bottom of the totem pole. If they lived their life correctly and did not get into the debt-payment cycle that defines so many people then it is no big deal and they are probably having the time of their life. I know lots of guys like that. I also know tons struggling. Don't put yourself in a position to struggle.
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