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Old 11-13-2008, 11:34 AM   #151
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Sure, it's a neat video. One that can be done by almost anyone that can turn a wheel in anger, with the budget/time/inclination to do so.

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I never said he is the only one who can do it. I could do the driving but renting an airfield in not exactly in my budget.

Most people don't have the resources and lack initiative. There are not too many vids out there like that.

If you think that "anyone that can turn a wheel in anger can do it" you are mistaken. There is a lot of skill involved in driving like that

I give him credit for actually doing it and making an awesome vid

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Old 11-13-2008, 11:41 AM   #152
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Your profile says you drive an Integra so maybe you never had a chance to go all balls out with a powerful race prepped AWD car and you just don't understand the feeling it gives you.

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trhoppe is just jealous he doesn't have the car control skillz to drive that lowly Integra without hitting stuff.

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Old 11-13-2008, 12:04 PM   #153
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More background......
and the article in 0-60...

http://www.0-60mag.com/online/?p=5670


We know Ken Block well. He’s that guy who jumps things in rally cars. After his 171-foot leap of insanity and his snow antics down under, we made him well aware that it would be hard to impress us from this point forward without adding fire…lots of fire. So upon watching this new clip, where Ken rips around El Toro airfield in his Gymkhana car (featured in 0-60 Spring 2008), we were at first disappointed to see all this smoke, but no fire. Then we noticed the guy on the Segway, and while Segways themselves are rather lame, the possiblity of crushing someone riding one is actually a lot cooler than fire. So once again KB, we applaud your efforts and nominate you for Hoon of the year.

Read below for what our man Block had to say about his display and make sure to not only check the video here, but the rest of what Ken has on his site.


1) What was the inspiration behind the concept of the video?

I built this amazing Subaru STI specifically for gymkhana events, but I rarely get time to drive it. So, I had a few spare days in September and decided to rent the El Toro Airfield (in So. Cal) and do some practice and further testing and setup of the car. I brought along the guys from Mad Media (they film at our Rally America races for Subaru) to make a video clip of what I did with the car over those two days. Basically, I set up a fun gymkhana-like course around the airfield and we shot it all to make a video clip for DC.

2) First let’s talk about your car. What have you done to this STI to allow you to drive it like you do?


The major mods are engine performance (tuned by Crawford Performance) and tires/suspension. The car puts out 530WHP and runs on BFG tires and Tein suspension. The setup is really key…the power delivery needs to be powerful yet smooth and the suspension and tire combo needs to be well balanced and not too stiff to let the car move around and be a bit looser than your typical tarmac track setup.

3) Your driving style seems to be a mixture of rally, gymkhana and drifting, explain the difference and similarities between the three and there unique use.

The reason I love gymkhana type courses is that it takes a mix of driving styles to get thru them. I love tarmac rallies, but I rarely get to race them (I have only raced 1 in my whole rally career) and I am always looking to get more seat time and practice in this type of driving. A course like this requires that a driver use the best of their tarmac driving skills (a mix of rally and drifting skills) to get the best lap time.

4) How long did it take to film this segment?

It took two days. There was some down time for shot setups, tire rotation and remounting, plus some time for repairs (I hit a few things).


5) What inspired the use of the Segway?

Doing “donuts” in a car has been around for a long time. AWD cars can do them very well…like a spinning-top. But, that’s a bit basic—as far as driving skills go—so I wanted to try and test my donut skills by using a moving object. So, the best thing I could come up with was a filmer on a drivable barstool. But, we couldn’t find one of those barstools in time so we resorted to the Segway.

6) Were there any Segway casualties?

No! We had a couple of close calls, but nothing serious. And, it only took a few takes to get that one great shot that’s in the clip. Thanks to Josh Martelli (Segway driver and Director of the clip) for stepping up and getting on that thing, and letting me attempt to scrape my front bumper on the side of a moving Segway!


7) So what’s next, when will you add jumps into this spectacular hoon display?

No jumps…well, not yet! But, I would love to do a whole set-up competition (gymkhana on steroids) like this someday. This type of driving and course was really fun and could make a great way to test a group of driver’s skills against each other.
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trhoppe is just jealous he doesn't have the car control skillz to drive that lowly Integra without hitting stuff.

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I heard Tom is a tray-drifting champion!

He should do his own video and call it "McKhana" with the Integra and trays under the rear wheels
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Old 11-13-2008, 12:14 PM   #155
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Your profile says you drive an Integra so maybe you never had a chance to go all balls out with a powerful race prepped AWD car and you just don't understand the feeling it gives you.

Greg
Now that's funny.
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Old 11-13-2008, 12:23 PM   #156
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Your profile says you drive an Integra so maybe you never had a chance to go all balls out with a powerful race prepped AWD car and you just don't understand the feeling it gives you.

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Now that's funny.

I didn't write this to piss him off. I really think some people never experienced this RAW feeling and they can't relate to this video like some guys that did can.

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Old 11-13-2008, 12:26 PM   #157
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I didn't write this to piss him off. I really think some people never experienced this RAW feeling and they cant relate to this video like some guys that did

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I'm sure you didn't write it to piss him off, but I don't think you know who he is, either
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Old 11-13-2008, 12:33 PM   #158
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I didn't write this to piss him off. I really think some people never experienced this RAW feeling and they can't relate to this video like some guys that did can.
I think there are a lot of people laughing at your unintended irony right now.
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Old 11-13-2008, 12:37 PM   #159
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I think there are a lot of people laughing at your unintended irony right now.

Yes, I don't know him but I know he likes to take pics and he races in ITA

So you're saying since he's a racer he can relate to what Ken is doing in that video?

Tell me

Both of you

How track racing relates to any of the driving done id this vid????

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PS. And obviously you don't know much about me either
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Old 11-13-2008, 12:43 PM   #160
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Hoppe is a *****!

PS: You obviously don't understand the thrill of driving a 55hp 1,200cc powered monster on 5" wide tires. The 0.2 g's of raw acceleration just can't be compared. 500hp STi on BFG KDWs? bah!
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Saying that Hoppe doesn't know his way around a race prepped AWD is akin to saying that Ron Jeremy has never known the pleasures of a woman.
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Hoppe is a *****!
There is a lot of words that this ***** could be

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Hoppe is a P***Y.

Big discount.

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Saying that Hoppe doesn't know his way around a race prepped AWD is akin to saying that Ron Jeremy has never known the pleasures of a woman.

you've missed my point

Driving on the track to make good times is not even close to fcking around sideways on an airfield as I stated earlier "all balls out"

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How track racing relates to any of the driving done id this vid????
The driving in that video relates to track racing the same way Brian Boitano relates to Apolo Anton Ohno.

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P.S. Hoppe is a poooosay.
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Old 11-13-2008, 12:51 PM   #166
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Just to clarify...


To aviod any confusion...


Neon lights are legal in IT, and actually encouraged in night enduros.


and if you have any reasonable amount of experience on a track, you've been sideways beyond the limit enough to know how to control the back end of the car stepping out, be it FWD, RWD, or AWD.
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Old 11-13-2008, 12:56 PM   #167
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Saying that Hoppe doesn't know his way around a race prepped AWD is akin to saying that Ron Jeremy has never known the pleasures of a woman.
So that integra is AWD?
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So that integra is AWD?
yeah and it's his first car.
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yeah and it's his first car.
...and that means what?
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...and that means what?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Impreza_555
Look through there to see if any names stand out
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Look through there to see if any names stand out
wow - Mike King is pretty good.
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I didn't even know that existed. Neat! Should be updated to include '07.
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So I thought you said Integra was his first car and the article shows he had 02 WRX be4

I still don't see how his style of driving in Integra or slow ass WRX would give him anything near the sensation of what Ken got in his car + huge airfield


I'm not trying to diss his road racing career

Argument was that he prob never experienced the "fake drifting"

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/me prolly has more seat time at El Toro in a Subaru, therefore, I'm > Hoppe.

Put that in Wiki.
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