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09-01-2011, 10:56 AM | #126 | |
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09-01-2011, 10:58 AM | #127 | |
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If I was picking 2/12 and dead-set on a QB... options will be out there. Brees & Rivers are just under that range, you could get lucky. Rothesburger has been going about 28ish from what I've seen, which means he'll be there, but you risk over-paying. I don't know how comfortable you are with Peyton and his injury but he falls about spot-on where you'll be picking. You could either snag him then another in rd 6-8 just in case you need him covered for the first few weeks, or take a different position. |
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If you took Michael Vick's total stats from last year, divided them by 12 and then multiplied by 16 (and rounded up on the fractions) … you come up with 449 fantasy points. That's why you draft him #1. It's a huge gamble but if if pays off he can damn near win you your league by himself. |
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09-01-2011, 11:15 AM | #129 |
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I'm with ZMANN.
Vick is a guy that with a career 50-55% completion percentage that put up a 63% last year. His average completion was ~6.5 yards, then he goes for 8.1. Rushed for 9 TDs on 100 rushes (11 rush/TD) when he's averaged 24 rush/TD for his career. Don't you think there's going to be SOME regression? If he plays 16 games and gets the stats he did last year total (not extrapolated), I'd be more than happy. There's a saying in fantasy sports "You can't win a league in the first round, but you sure can lose it." |
09-01-2011, 11:16 AM | #130 | |
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I feel the same with CJ, too much risk. No preseason, small back, horrible team, lots of touches the last couple of years...too much risk. Other people I'm not high on : MJD, Fitzgerald, Hillis, Gore, Nicks, Forte, Jackson, Guys I will probably reach for : Ryan, Felix Jones, Austin, Gronkowski, |
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09-01-2011, 11:23 AM | #131 |
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I agree with Z except on Fitzgerald & Hillis.
Fitz is the best WR in the league. He did great last year with 4 QBs throwing to him. Breaston is gone which means his targets go up, and he's one of 2 WRs in the league that's so good that double coverage doesn't even matter. I don't know why everyone is so down on Hillis this year. Preseason has shown he's not a fluke. CLE actually has a passing game now so that only makes his value increase. PS: You already reached, and reached big on Gronkowski I was shocked you took him where you did and a little disappointed that I didn't get him. |
09-01-2011, 11:24 AM | #132 |
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Oh, I completely agree on Vick, but I also see why people are taking him #1. If I was in a random free league I'd probably do it for S's and G's just to see what happened.
And I love looking at what people are up and down on. My list would be: Up - Turner, Fitz, Rice, Freeman, Gore (as long as healthy), F. Jones Down - CJ, MJD, Foster (even before his injury), Nicks, Hillis A lot of these up's and down's are related to draft position. For example, I'm really high on Nicks in the third round, not in the first. I'm also down on CJ/AF because of them going 2-4. After that I raise my interest in them a little more (as evident by me taking CJ @ 6 in the OT league 1) |
09-01-2011, 11:35 AM | #133 |
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I really want to figure out Ladanian Tomlinson and the role he will play this year.
He's getting up there but I'm trying to figure out if he has any value left as a #3 or flex. Rex Ryan says he's still worthy of starting- which leads me to believe the Jets may treat him like last year: Say Greene is the starter but then give LT the bulk of the carries for the first half of the season. I can already tell he's going to be a PITA on my team. |
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@ the Gronk comments...will he put up 10 TD again this year ? It would be awesome if he did and all the talk coming out of the Patriots camp this year is the ridiculous amount of extra time Brady has been spending working on the Red Zone with Gronk and Hernandez. Hernandez does brings down Gronk's value, he is quickly becoming a favorite target of Brady, but Brady loves Gronk in the end-zone. I'm not looking for consistent week to week points from him...but the hook-up with Brady and Gronk is big, I'm a firm believer of having at least one hook-up for points and if Gronk has 10 TD's by the end of the season then I'll be happy... Arizona is so bad this year they will be able to triple team Fitz (and he will probably still come down with ball, shrug off a couple of tacklers and walk into the end-zone...) |
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09-01-2011, 11:45 AM | #135 |
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I don't blame you for Gronkowski, he bailed me out last year in the OT league. I got hit with big injuries early on and started the season something like 2-6. I picked him up along with Llyod and just missed the play-offs.
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09-01-2011, 11:55 AM | #136 | |
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So with a $300 soft cap (can go over, but it costs you real $... $50 entry fee and $1 for $1 when you're over the cap) which 7 do you keep? 10 team league: 2x QB, 2x RB, 3x WR, 1x TE, 1x WR/RB, 1x WR/TE. Initial thoughts are: Obvious/mandatory selections: Vick $9 Rice $25 Mike Williams $10 Maclin $15 50/50 selections: Peyton Manning $71 Reggie Wayne $48 Colt McCoy $1 Kevin Kolb $34 DeAngelo Williams $23 Pierre Garcon $10 Ladanian Tomlinson $11 It gets really interesting in this format because of inflation. For those of you not familiar with the term, quick example: 10 teams, $300/team, $3000 of money out there to be spent on $3000 worth of talent. Say Vick would normally go for $70. I keep him at $9. $9 comes out of the money pool, but $70 comes out of the talent pool. Let's say everyone protects $200 worth of talent for $100 in salary cap. There's only $1000 left of startable talent out there, but there's $2000 left of salary cap. So when you have a guy like Jahvid Best who maybe should go for $25, his INFLATED value would actually be $25 * ($2000/$1000) = $50. In actuality, last year's draft started off with around a 23% inflation factor but by the time people caught on to what was happening (no talent and lots of money) it ended near a 200% inflation factor. Edit: some of the highway robbery that affects inflation. CJ drafted as a rookie for $5. Kept at $5, then $10, now it will cost him $20. Aaron Rodgers drafted when he was a back up at $2. Now he'll cost $27 to keep. Miles Austin for $6. Jamaal Charles for $9. Joe Flacco for $11. Mike Sims-Walker for $9. Austin Collie for $6. Sidney Rice for $6. Last edited by jr4284; 09-01-2011 at 12:01 PM. |
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09-01-2011, 12:20 PM | #137 |
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Dammit the trade for Calvin Johnson got rejected.
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09-01-2011, 12:21 PM | #138 |
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i avoided shonn greene and LT for that exact reason: uncertainty. shonn greene might march them down the field but LT will take his goal line carries. so how do you know who to start?
it'd be so hard for me to keep or draft anyone on the panthers team this year. they're gonna be the worst team in the league... |
09-01-2011, 12:22 PM | #139 |
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Keeping on with mock drafts a few dozen more times to see how an AP at 1/1 shakes out.
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09-01-2011, 12:23 PM | #140 |
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So, if you guys decided to put together a 3 #1 WR team with reckless abandon for budget, which 3 would you pick? Andre Johnson Roddy White Greg Jennings Calvin Johnson Larry Fitzgerald Vincent Jackson Hakeem Nicks I was thinking White, Fitz, and Calvin. And, is it right to be down on Steve Johsnon from Buffalo this year? Alot of places are reducing his TD's by 3 and yards by roughly 200 this year...any reason? |
09-01-2011, 12:26 PM | #141 |
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09-01-2011, 12:28 PM | #142 | |
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Make sure to post up. I'm curious to see how it pans out. |
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09-01-2011, 12:33 PM | #143 |
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I dont' think it's too close either. I love Fitz but Roddy is the most reliable thing in the world and Megatron and Andre are just the best athletes in football.
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09-01-2011, 12:35 PM | #144 | |
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A team in our league has Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Mike Wallace. |
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+1
between the 3, i'd play the matchups. i got AP with the #4 pick in my league |
09-01-2011, 12:44 PM | #146 |
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Hmmm, well I was asking this during a mock draft I am currently in ad here is my layout so far:
1.) Matt Ryan 2.) Roddy White 3.) Calvin Johnson 4.) Larry Fitzgerald 5.) Peyton Hillis 6.) Steven Jackson BE Kevin Kolb And I have no money left This is a 10 team auction. Sooooooo much easier than 20 person live drafts. |
09-01-2011, 01:36 PM | #147 | |
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Promise, it had nothing to do with this thread. I just saw all the Arian Foster chatter (not in this thread) and thought he was worth picking up...Then I called my Dad to tell him I got Tate and he said "what about Ward?" I told him to go for it if he was available. Did some more reading, and apparently Ward may get the start over Tate. Shoot me a trade offer is anyone wants to do some wheelin' and dealin'. |
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09-01-2011, 01:42 PM | #148 |
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CJ is back..just signed
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09-01-2011, 01:56 PM | #149 |
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Here's my lineup from last night's draft. I had my buddy who has done well in his FF in one ear and my teammate (GF) in the other. We had 2nd pick in a 12 man league with only one person on auto-pick. We have Cutler as a backup QB and IND as a backup D. As long as Peyton is playing, I think we'll have a good shot, but I am not familiar with some of our picks.
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I took tate with my 15th pick...how is slaton 3rd in the depth chart ahead of tate? that dude really fell off after a spectacular rc season.
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