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Old 07-25-2017, 12:46 AM   #1
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I know this is probably premature but has anyone had any issues with the new 2018 wrx models.

I'm asking this because I have a 2015 Wrx and have had a ton of issues. 3 throwout bearing failures in the clutch. 2 radios, a/c compressor and blower. I really love the car and driving experience but the build quality scares me. My father has a 15 wrx and he's gone through 2 throwout bearings also. I notice a number of tsb's.

Did they make major changes to the clutch and the transmission syncros. I really would like a 18 WRX limited but if they did not make major changes to the parts and or build quality I would probably switch brands. My family owns imprezas and foresters and never had a lot of issues. But both of the 15 wrx's my family has gone through 5 clutch throw out bearings in 80,000 miles combined... So you can see why I'm leary.

TLR had a 15 with a bunch of mechanical issues covered by tsb's, my father had a 15 with a bunch of mechincal issues covered by tsb's. Did subaru fix most of this with the model refresh?
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Old 07-25-2017, 09:25 AM   #2
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It's way too early in the 18 year models to ask reliability questions and even if there was a reliability issue the warranty would cover anything.

There is a thread called No Issues in which people are posting things like 50k+ miles no problems at all and with mods.. Or bone stock and still going strong at 30k. But we are only like 2% probably of 15+ WRX owners so we don't even mean anything in the statistics of reliability.

I know personally my 17 is still doing great. Sometimes I can hear the throw-out bearing whine a little after a cold start but I am not hearing any truly concerning sounds in the transmission. But I only have about 12k miles.

My advice, don't expect any answer to your question until 2020 about the 2018's reliability.
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Old 07-25-2017, 09:57 AM   #3
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Did they make major changes to the clutch and the transmission syncros. I really would like a 18 WRX limited but if they did not make major changes to the parts and or build quality I would probably switch brands. My family owns imprezas and foresters and never had a lot of issues. But both of the 15 wrx's my family has gone through 5 clutch throw out bearings in 80,000 miles combined... So you can see why I'm leary.

TLR had a 15 with a bunch of mechanical issues covered by tsb's, my father had a 15 with a bunch of mechincal issues covered by tsb's. Did subaru fix most of this with the model refresh?

You will be happy to know that Subaru at least redesigned the TOB and it's within the TSB 03-78-17 and the new part was changed within the 2017 production run. So hopefully the redesigned part holds up better than the original.

Still need it fixed on my 2016 WRX as already had it replaced once but it was with the old part.

Wouldn't have minded it too much if it was just noise in the mornings but it graduated to making noise all the time and getting a "gritty" feel when using the clutch.

I would hope all the other TSBs would be rolled into the 2018s though, but have no idea. The 2018 press release have notes about improved synchros and clutch feel though.
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Old 07-25-2017, 10:30 AM   #4
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Wouldn't have minded it too much if it was just noise in the mornings but it graduated to making noise all the time and getting a "gritty" feel when using the clutch.
gritty feeling, yes that's how to describe it. I've had that problem since day one (34k miles). a couple months ago it started sometimes making one clack per rpm, sometimes two, but it hasn't done it in a couple days.
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:13 AM   #5
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gritty feeling, yes that's how to describe it. I've had that problem since day one (34k miles). a couple months ago it started sometimes making one clack per rpm, sometimes two, but it hasn't done it in a couple days.
Sounds like yours is failing, you should take it to a dealer.

My friend has a 60k mile 2015 and is having TOB noise. They took it to a dealer they told him to talk to SOA about covering it. He called them, they authorized inspection, appointment is pending for that at the moment.

FWIW Their car is "moderately modded" TBE, tgv,egr, tmic, but not slammed with silly wheels and festooned in stickers. Also, this was a notoriously "mod friendly" dealer.
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Old 08-16-2017, 07:52 PM   #6
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Sounds like yours is failing, you should take it to a dealer.

My friend has a 60k mile 2015 and is having TOB noise. They took it to a dealer they told him to talk to SOA about covering it. He called them, they authorized inspection, appointment is pending for that at the moment.

FWIW Their car is "moderately modded" TBE, tgv,egr, tmic, but not slammed with silly wheels and festooned in stickers. Also, this was a notoriously "mod friendly" dealer.
got it fixed today. the clutch actually feels light and the gritty feeling is gone. the noise is gone as well.

now if i can just figure out why my rear subframe is off by 1/4" and the front has 0.5 degrees of cross caster my car would be perfect
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Old 07-25-2017, 08:38 PM   #7
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Glad I'm not the only one with all these problems in my 15. 4 throw out bearings, 5th being the redesign that just got put in, 2 radios, replaced clutch assembly, predetonation (2 tune recalls), broken pitch mount twice now (first time they just booger welded it, now it's broke), probably something else. Lol. My buddy has a 17 with no problems that I've had. Making me think of getting rid of mine too, but not for a wrx....
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Old 07-25-2017, 10:39 PM   #8
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Water pump went bad for me at 11K, that was fun. Other than that no complaints and I love the car.
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Old 08-06-2017, 05:42 PM   #9
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Water pump went bad for me at 11K, that was fun. Other than that no complaints and I love the car.
I'm a little under 14K now and I have two new "issues" that may not even be issues at all. First being is that the engine seems to be louder, although it may or may not be in my head. The valve ticking/chatter seems a little bit louder than it was before, however I'm pretty sure that's common for four bangers as all my previous cars had loud valve ticking/chatter but were all mechanically solid.

The other thing is that there's a ringing noise that I can hear while I'm in the cabin. It's a very high pitch/high frequency steady ringing noise. Sounds electrical, doesn't sound like a leak. I may or may not take the car into the dealer. They may end up looking at it and saying that they're non-issues or "normal" but hey, that's what having a warranty is for right?
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Old 07-26-2017, 12:48 AM   #10
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First 18's rolled out in late May its way too early to tell
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Old 07-26-2017, 12:48 PM   #11
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I know this is probably premature but has anyone had any issues with the new 2018 wrx models.

I'm asking this because I have a 2015 Wrx and have had a ton of issues. 3 throwout bearing failures in the clutch. 2 radios, a/c compressor and blower. I really love the car and driving experience but the build quality scares me. My father has a 15 wrx and he's gone through 2 throwout bearings also. I notice a number of tsb's.

Did they make major changes to the clutch and the transmission syncros. I really would like a 18 WRX limited but if they did not make major changes to the parts and or build quality I would probably switch brands. My family owns imprezas and foresters and never had a lot of issues. But both of the 15 wrx's my family has gone through 5 clutch throw out bearings in 80,000 miles combined... So you can see why I'm leary.

TLR had a 15 with a bunch of mechanical issues covered by tsb's, my father had a 15 with a bunch of mechincal issues covered by tsb's. Did subaru fix most of this with the model refresh?
Was your your AC compressor and Blower actually bad, or did they just make noise. It is "normal" for our blower motors to be loud and make a ticking sound. Also, or Valeo AC Compressors are also quite noisy. Was your TOB really bad, or just making noise for the first few min, like they all do.

I have several minor and common annoyance "issues" with my 2016, but no real component failures. I think they are just a Subaru thing, and doubt they addressed them in the 2018s

Issues:
1. Clunk in Front Driverside Suspension when going over bumps and dips (Still un-diagnosed/fixed. Not caused by tophat)

2. Clunk in steering rack when stopped, or moving slowly, and moving the steering wheel back and fourth. (Not fixed, likely excessive lash in the steering rack worm gear drive, will likely require a new steering rack)

3. Knocking in the clutch pedal, 2 when pressing down and 2 when releasing. (There is a TSB for this, but according to my VIN, I already have the updated pedal assembly)

4. Noisy TOB for the first few min on a moist day (I don't have the revised part. It is just a minor annoyance and won't replace unless it starts failing, not worth the risk of having the dealer tear apart my car)

5. Noisy AC Compressor on the first few min of use (Buzzing/hissing noise, from my understanding, this is a normal "Feature" of our Valeo compressors)

6. Ticking Blower Motor (Barley noticeable unless on higher settings, may address with the Crosstek sound deadened cover)

Everything else on the car is solid. No oil consumption, or anything that effects the driveability.

Really, there are so many good things the WRX has, that no other car does, especially in its price range. I think the good far outweighs the problems with the car, and most problems can be addressed with some work. If you want to own one, I think you really have to decide for yourself if you can live with these minor annoyances/noises, because with a Subaru, you are going to likely have them.

I font' know all the details of the issues you had, but my guess would be that you really didn't need to replace the TOB, AC Compressor, or Blower motor. These components on our cars make noises from the factory, which appear to be bad, but actually aren't.
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Old 08-07-2017, 11:14 AM   #12
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Was your your AC compressor and Blower actually bad, or did they just make noise. It is "normal" for our blower motors to be loud and make a ticking sound. Also, or Valeo AC Compressors are also quite noisy. Was your TOB really bad, or just making noise for the first few min, like they all do.
Not OP but... My AC compressor was replaced and it had nothing to do with noise. Intermittently every few days it would just stop blowing cold air. Didn't matter if I was stopped or driving. Eventually it was determined to be the same issue as TSB 10-84-16 which has to do with the compressor clutch coil faulting after getting overheated.
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Old 08-19-2017, 04:21 PM   #13
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Was your your AC compressor and Blower actually bad, or did they just make noise. It is "normal" for our blower motors to be loud and make a ticking sound. Also, or Valeo AC Compressors are also quite noisy. Was your TOB really bad, or just making noise for the first few min, like they all do.

I have several minor and common annoyance "issues" with my 2016, but no real component failures. I think they are just a Subaru thing, and doubt they addressed them in the 2018s

Issues:
1. Clunk in Front Driverside Suspension when going over bumps and dips (Still un-diagnosed/fixed. Not caused by tophat)

2. Clunk in steering rack when stopped, or moving slowly, and moving the steering wheel back and fourth. (Not fixed, likely excessive lash in the steering rack worm gear drive, will likely require a new steering rack)

3. Knocking in the clutch pedal, 2 when pressing down and 2 when releasing. (There is a TSB for this, but according to my VIN, I already have the updated pedal assembly)

4. Noisy TOB for the first few min on a moist day (I don't have the revised part. It is just a minor annoyance and won't replace unless it starts failing, not worth the risk of having the dealer tear apart my car)

5. Noisy AC Compressor on the first few min of use (Buzzing/hissing noise, from my understanding, this is a normal "Feature" of our Valeo compressors)

6. Ticking Blower Motor (Barley noticeable unless on higher settings, may address with the Crosstek sound deadened cover)

Everything else on the car is solid. No oil consumption, or anything that effects the driveability.

Really, there are so many good things the WRX has, that no other car does, especially in its price range. I think the good far outweighs the problems with the car, and most problems can be addressed with some work. If you want to own one, I think you really have to decide for yourself if you can live with these minor annoyances/noises, because with a Subaru, you are going to likely have them.

I font' know all the details of the issues you had, but my guess would be that you really didn't need to replace the TOB, AC Compressor, or Blower motor. These components on our cars make noises from the factory, which appear to be bad, but actually aren't.
For item 1, check your end links and make sure they are tight.
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Old 05-23-2018, 11:39 PM   #14
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Was your your AC compressor and Blower actually bad, or did they just make noise. It is "normal" for our blower motors to be loud and make a ticking sound. Also, or Valeo AC Compressors are also quite noisy. Was your TOB really bad, or just making noise for the first few min, like they all do.

I have several minor and common annoyance "issues" with my 2016, but no real component failures. I think they are just a Subaru thing, and doubt they addressed them in the 2018s

Issues:
1. Clunk in Front Driverside Suspension when going over bumps and dips (Still un-diagnosed/fixed. Not caused by tophat)

2. Clunk in steering rack when stopped, or moving slowly, and moving the steering wheel back and fourth. (Not fixed, likely excessive lash in the steering rack worm gear drive, will likely require a new steering rack)

3. Knocking in the clutch pedal, 2 when pressing down and 2 when releasing. (There is a TSB for this, but according to my VIN, I already have the updated pedal assembly)

4. Noisy TOB for the first few min on a moist day (I don't have the revised part. It is just a minor annoyance and won't replace unless it starts failing, not worth the risk of having the dealer tear apart my car)

5. Noisy AC Compressor on the first few min of use (Buzzing/hissing noise, from my understanding, this is a normal "Feature" of our Valeo compressors)

6. Ticking Blower Motor (Barley noticeable unless on higher settings, may address with the Crosstek sound deadened cover)

Everything else on the car is solid. No oil consumption, or anything that effects the driveability.

Really, there are so many good things the WRX has, that no other car does, especially in its price range. I think the good far outweighs the problems with the car, and most problems can be addressed with some work. If you want to own one, I think you really have to decide for yourself if you can live with these minor annoyances/noises, because with a Subaru, you are going to likely have them.

I font' know all the details of the issues you had, but my guess would be that you really didn't need to replace the TOB, AC Compressor, or Blower motor. These components on our cars make noises from the factory, which appear to be bad, but actually aren't.

Just gunna start by saying DO NOT go to NORTHTOWN SUBARU in NY!

I can agree with most of your issues because I share some of the same. The clutch pedal clicks when depressed, the heat shield rattles when rolling out of first gear, the throw out bearing whistles on cold starts in summer and is always squeaking in the dead cold of winter. The stock ECU map makes this all even worse, the stock tune detonates, and sometimes sputters out on longer than usual drives than through town. The windshield was cracked because of the factory glue not being set correctly, or the car was not perfectly level installing the windshield from factory, when driving over bumps the dashboard plastics and passenger door plastics would make a cracking noise like the car was being twisted like a pop can. The ďstar linkĒ radioís Bluetooth function stopped working.

On top of all of those factory defects and abnormalities, the body shop at NORTHTOWN SUBARU charged me 7k for body work and they did not use genuine Subaru parts, they used a local knock off supplier that made replica retrofit replacements. Also they left me with a soaking wet car not even detailed at all to try to cover up their mistakes, with SWIRL markings all over the hood and a spot on the drivers door after I washed it by hand. Also some clear coat misted and peeled on the passenger fender which was not painted. Horrible company and will never buy a Subaru from them again. Donít ever shop there. Lol
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:46 PM   #15
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Just gunna start by saying DO NOT go to NORTHTOWN SUBARU in NY!

I can agree with most of your issues because I share some of the same. The clutch pedal clicks when depressed, the heat shield rattles when rolling out of first gear, the throw out bearing whistles on cold starts in summer and is always squeaking in the dead cold of winter. The stock ECU map makes this all even worse, the stock tune detonates, and sometimes sputters out on longer than usual drives than through town. The windshield was cracked because of the factory glue not being set correctly, or the car was not perfectly level installing the windshield from factory, when driving over bumps the dashboard plastics and passenger door plastics would make a cracking noise like the car was being twisted like a pop can. The ďstar linkĒ radioís Bluetooth function stopped working.

On top of all of those factory defects and abnormalities, the body shop at NORTHTOWN SUBARU charged me 7k for body work and they did not use genuine Subaru parts, they used a local knock off supplier that made replica retrofit replacements. Also they left me with a soaking wet car not even detailed at all to try to cover up their mistakes, with SWIRL markings all over the hood and a spot on the drivers door after I washed it by hand. Also some clear coat misted and peeled on the passenger fender which was not painted. Horrible company and will never buy a Subaru from them again. Donít ever shop there. Lol
I don't want to hijack this thread but....

+1 for all of this. I bought my car at Northtown Subaru and their service department is the worst I have ever dealt with. Just recently I took my car there because I have creaking from the front driver wheel when the suspension travels/ wheel turns as well as rattles from clutch/ transmission when going from a stop. Both issues they dismissed as normal. I even drove them around the parking lot so they could hear it.

I found out when I picked it up that they took it for a joy ride and beat the **** out of it while in their possession. I brought this up to the service writer and they straight up ignored my concerns. Horrible place to bring your car for service..... never again. I never hear good things about them unfortunately.
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Old 07-19-2018, 07:35 PM   #16
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1,600 miles on my '18.
Aside from $6,000 in hail damage, my seat heaters don't work.

PS Body shop has had my wrx longer than I've had it.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:32 PM   #17
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1,600 miles on my '18.
Aside from $6,000 in hail damage, my seat heaters don't work.

PS Body shop has had my wrx longer than I've had it.

Damn. thats a bummer.

In my personal experience, aside from known recalls on my cars over the years, most of the issues come from the residual effect of other people doing work on it.

ie: damaging things or causing issues by taking it apart and not putting it back together right.

In your case, its possible that either the switch or the seat portion just arent plugged in because someone just diddnt plug it back in after a reinstallation.
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1,600 miles on my '18.
Aside from $6,000 in hail damage, my seat heaters don't work.

PS Body shop has had my wrx longer than I've had it.
Damn that's depressing. Can they pop most/all of the dents out? I've heard that in at least some cases hail dents can be popped out with hardly any evidence because the sheet metal wants to return to the original state.
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About to get 2nd replacement clutch put in my 2018. 1st went bad at about 20k was the old style, TOB was going. Maybe 1k on the new one and the TOB shrieks when it decides to make its presence known, it sounds much worse than the original one did. Debating just installing an aftermarket clutch.
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:36 PM   #20
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About to get 2nd replacement clutch put in my 2018. 1st went bad at about 20k was the old style, TOB was going. Maybe 1k on the new one and the TOB shrieks when it decides to make its presence known, it sounds much worse than the original one did. Debating just installing an aftermarket clutch.
Thatís crazy...mine doesnít make any noise at 44k and I taught myself to drive in the car.
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About to get 2nd replacement clutch put in my 2018. 1st went bad at about 20k was the old style, TOB was going. Maybe 1k on the new one and the TOB shrieks when it decides to make its presence known, it sounds much worse than the original one did. Debating just installing an aftermarket clutch.
Any way of telling if what style TOB is on it? My car is sitting at the dealership with tranny issues atm. Only 22k miles on it.
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Old 07-26-2017, 12:54 PM   #22
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I can testify that someone I know has not had issues with his 2018 since he got it almost a month ago.
So your good to go on that one, no issues.
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Aww crap.

My 2017 has been feeling "gritty" on cold starts too...~3k miles. The thought of a failing throw out bearing crossed my mind but I refused to believe it. So this is a thing. Great.
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Old 07-26-2017, 01:53 PM   #24
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I have a 2015 wrx, and I have had no problems other than the air conditioning, which surprises me. I have never had a car have the ac go out on my before, especially not this new. They definitely did something wrong here. First, the servicing was too low, now it blows warm unless I turn the fan all the way to the highest setting. Weird.
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Old 07-26-2017, 11:52 PM   #25
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Aww crap.



My 2017 has been feeling "gritty" on cold starts too...~3k miles. The thought of a failing throw out bearing crossed my mind but I refused to believe it. So this is a thing. Great.


These forums plays with your mind lol.

Bearings making noise never sounds like a normal thing and this being my first Subaru, I almost managed to convince myself that the horrendous racket it made most mornings was fine. Then it started to make them randomly even when fully warmed. I wasn't cool with that at all and had it replaced (with the same part though as it was before the TSB)

Of course I have no idea how long it could have lasted as I was told the removed bearing looked fine. Maybe it would have held on for 100,000s miles or 1,000. I rather not find out first hand the failure point though and figured this is the point of having a warranty to replace faulty parts. But the OP with3 replacements... wow!
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