|
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
02-11-2014, 01:13 AM | #26 | |
Former Vendor
Member#: 220204
Join Date: Aug 2009
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Buena Park, CA
|
Quote:
to respond to another post, even if the filter was installed dry at this moment it might only take 2-3 seconds more to fill it too. hope this helps Outfront
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
|
|
02-11-2014, 08:20 AM | #27 | |
NASIOC Vendor
Member#: 198281
Join Date: Dec 2008
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Virginia
Vehicle:2005 WRX/STi WRB of course |
Quote:
|
|
02-11-2014, 09:25 AM | #28 | |
Former Vendor
Member#: 220204
Join Date: Aug 2009
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Buena Park, CA
|
Quote:
#2 remove oil filter, disable engine (like pull the crank sensor wire )and crank it will only take 3-10 seconds to get oil out at the filter pad. Note: pulling sparkplugs is a plus but with everything happening as it "should" no real need to. #3 install oil filter and crank until oil light goes out should be 10 sec or so #4 connect crank sensor, start motor! the "air in the crankcase" method is only a last resort and is for those who have not done a good job at priming their pump. filling the oil filter on a brand new startup is a bad idea until the oil pump has seen oil first. Outfront |
|
02-11-2014, 09:54 AM | #29 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 314410
Join Date: Mar 2012
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Milford NH
Vehicle:2004 WRX Black |
Quote:
Thank you in advance. |
|
02-11-2014, 09:54 AM | #30 |
NASIOC Vendor
Member#: 198281
Join Date: Dec 2008
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Virginia
Vehicle:2005 WRX/STi WRB of course |
OK... I'm well versed with the cranking method. It's the air pressure method I'm interested in trying. If the system can be FULLY primed without cranking that would be cool.
I figure some rubber stoppers for the PCV and turbo oil drain. Tap a spare filler cap with NPT so I can put an air line on it. Then apply air pressure. What else is missing or what else do you recommend to make this work well? |
02-11-2014, 10:06 AM | #31 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 221439
Join Date: Aug 2009
Chapter/Region:
E. Canada
Location: Quebec, Canada
Vehicle:2004 STI Blue |
Another method I'm curious about:
|
02-11-2014, 10:08 AM | #32 | |
Former Vendor
Member#: 220204
Join Date: Aug 2009
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Buena Park, CA
|
Quote:
So I would block off or pinch the main engine breather and the valve cover breathers. simply using some heater hose you can fold them over and connect both ports to one another (sTi) I would put the rubber tipped air hose down the dipstick and use your hand on the oil filler. your hand will be the pressure relief valve as to not put too much air in the crankcase. while applying pressure...crank motor. this method is to only prime the pump. it is not and will not push oil through the whole motor without cranking let alone past the rotors in the pump. I will make a video of this method and "inspection/priming" of a pump prior to installation on a motor today. Last edited by outfrontmotorsports; 02-11-2014 at 10:15 AM. |
|
02-11-2014, 10:10 AM | #33 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 221439
Join Date: Aug 2009
Chapter/Region:
E. Canada
Location: Quebec, Canada
Vehicle:2004 STI Blue |
Quote:
|
|
02-11-2014, 10:12 AM | #34 |
Former Vendor
Member#: 220204
Join Date: Aug 2009
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Buena Park, CA
|
This method is not useful in priming the pump. sure it will get oil to all the critical areas except it wont get oil to the pump. The oil filter has abuilt in check valve (anti drain) to allow oil only to go the right way.
If you could put on an oil filter that had no anti drain, like a gutted oil filter or using a remote oil filter assembly with the hoses connected to each other, then it would work Outfront |
02-11-2014, 10:18 AM | #35 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 221439
Join Date: Aug 2009
Chapter/Region:
E. Canada
Location: Quebec, Canada
Vehicle:2004 STI Blue |
Big tx to outfront for sharing their technique!
|
02-11-2014, 10:49 AM | #36 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 325461
Join Date: Jul 2012
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Chicago
Vehicle:2003 WRX WRB Rotated 35r |
If you guys are this crazy about it why not purchase an accusump and prime the motor that way...you would just have to make sure it only has a one way valve on it so no contaminants get in the accusump.
I just unplugged crank sensor, spark plugs still in, and cranked for 10 seconds where i saw 7 psi and rising. Started the motor and no problems. |
02-11-2014, 12:42 PM | #37 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 202736
Join Date: Feb 2009
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Vehicle:2002 WRX- 6spd - MBP 1992 Civic VX 40MPG |
Quote:
|
|
02-11-2014, 09:28 PM | #38 |
Former Vendor
Member#: 220204
Join Date: Aug 2009
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Buena Park, CA
|
in the next few days we will put up another small video on the "last alternative" oil pump priming method for Chris Outfront Last edited by outfrontmotorsports; 02-11-2014 at 09:46 PM. |
02-11-2014, 10:57 PM | #39 | |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 108051
Join Date: Feb 2006
Chapter/Region:
AKIC
Location: Oneonta, NY
Vehicle:2005 WRX STi WRB |
Quote:
Glad to see people pay attention and consider some things I post. Then again I'm sure all do LoL they just keep quite. |
|
02-11-2014, 11:03 PM | #40 | |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 108051
Join Date: Feb 2006
Chapter/Region:
AKIC
Location: Oneonta, NY
Vehicle:2005 WRX STi WRB |
Quote:
|
|
02-12-2014, 02:42 AM | #41 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 216984
Join Date: Jul 2009
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Coeur D Alene, ID
Vehicle:1996 Impreza outback Green |
Quote:
|
|
02-12-2014, 10:05 PM | #42 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 159334
Join Date: Sep 2007
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Martinsburg, WV
Vehicle:2002 WRX AP3,PPG, BW S256 |
An issue I am having at the moment is regarding my oil dipstick. 1 side reads L and the other side reads almost at the F. I have pulled it out and checked 10 times in a row. They are all reading like this. The side with the letters is getting a long skid mark of oil.
Has anyone had this issue before? |
02-13-2014, 06:54 AM | #43 |
NASIOC Vendor
Member#: 198281
Join Date: Dec 2008
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Virginia
Vehicle:2005 WRX/STi WRB of course |
Ignore any oil on the edges, that's just from the dipstick dragging against the inside of the dipstick tube. Always 'read' the side with the indicators on it. The dipstick goes into the oil at a steep angle, which is why one side is more/less than the other.
|
02-13-2014, 12:35 PM | #44 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 159334
Join Date: Sep 2007
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Martinsburg, WV
Vehicle:2002 WRX AP3,PPG, BW S256 |
Thank u for the info
|
04-20-2014, 04:30 PM | #45 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 221439
Join Date: Aug 2009
Chapter/Region:
E. Canada
Location: Quebec, Canada
Vehicle:2004 STI Blue |
I did start a fresh new build engine today. Pump was pre lube to help get oil pressure. No spark plug and the ign fuse removed to avoid getting fuel in the cylinders.
With no oil filter took 2 x 10s crank to get a continuous flow out of it. Then installed the oil filter and it took 3 x 10s crank to get around 15 psi in the system. Reinstalled everything and the car started with less than 1s cranking, almost instant oil pressure. |
04-20-2014, 06:50 PM | #46 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 381907
Join Date: Feb 2014
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: Nashville
Vehicle:2005 forester STI |
This thread is very helpful. Quick question to the experts. I am in the middle.of a 6 speed swap on an 05 fxt with an ej255. I pulled the motor because I bought it at 150k miles and it had never had a timing belt job, new clutch, or plugs. I put on all new pulleys, water pump, timing belt, and 11mm oil pump, all of the killer b oil stuff and a 16g turbo, and a new clutch and flywheel.
I couldn't get the back of the oil pump open and installed it without pre - lubricating it. So new turbo and oil pump that hasn't been pre primed. The new spark plugs aren't in it yet and it is still on my engine stand. Upon reinstallation, I've gathered that I should remove the oil filter (fuel relay already disconnected in cabin), maybe unplug the crank sensor and do 15 second cranks until I see oil coming thru the oil filter hole, then put the filter on, and look for oil coming out of the oil feed line on top of the turbo??? I'm concerned both about getting oil to all parts necessary as well as not having Oil pour out onto the turbo or head. Any clarification or corrections would be appreciated as I've not done this before and want to do It right the first time. The engine has been on my stand for a month with the timing all set and I've rotated it with a crank tool every day a few times as I've been advised. Last edited by uglybetty; 04-20-2014 at 06:56 PM. |
09-18-2018, 09:06 AM | #47 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 374271
Join Date: Nov 2013
|
Thank you outfront. Had to start new engine, couldn't get prime because oil pump was dry. Pressurized the crankcase and within 25 seconds I had oil pressure. Bump for good info.
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|