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Old 02-14-2019, 10:00 PM   #201
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:40 AM   #203
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I saw this article a few weeks ago and felt led to comment after owning a Legacy. The interior seems nice with the trim and styling. However, the outside looks like an old Honda or Elantra. It doesn't resemble what the LGT was one or even two body styles ago. The non-descriptive of drive train offerings leaves a meh factor to me.
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:08 PM   #204
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I am really curious to as how bad the CVT will be. If they manage to keep it relatively sporty, this will be a phenomenal car. Everything is outstanding outside of the lack of a manual.
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:12 PM   #205
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What's the feedback on the WRX CVT? I haven't heard anything really negative about it, except that it can't take much more power over stock power.
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:28 PM   #206
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CVT, whether you like it or hate it, makes more sense in a Legacy anyhow. Or a minivan.
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Old 02-16-2019, 02:25 AM   #207
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Having driven the WRX CVT and wanting to hate it I can say that I absolutely did not. In S# it’s pretty great. Do I still prefer it with a manual? Of course I do but I could definitely live with the CVT and have no regrets.
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Old 02-16-2019, 05:18 AM   #208
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Well damn. That’s ridiculous.
I'll admit, the numbers are pretty good; especially on regular gas and with nearly 4700 lbs of curb weight.
Maybe Subaru really pulled it off. I'll have to test drive that LXT to get a good feel for it.
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:11 AM   #209
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I'll admit, the numbers are pretty good; especially on regular gas and with nearly 4700 lbs of curb weight.
Maybe Subaru really pulled it off. I'll have to test drive that LXT to get a good feel for it.
I really think they can pull it off but it all depends how the CVT will behave and stock ECM tuning.
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:53 AM   #210
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C&D added an Ascent to their long term fleet. After the 1,000 mile break in, they were able to hit:
0-60 in 6.5s
5-60 in 7.0s
30-50 in 3.7s
1/4 mile in 15.1 sec @ 94 mph
Their tester weighs in at 4656 lbs.

It wouldn't be unreasonable to think a LXT would break 6.0s 0-60.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-maintenance/
Fuel economy is pretty weak though.

Average Fuel Economy: 18 mpg
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Old 02-16-2019, 11:15 AM   #211
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C&D added an Ascent to their long term fleet. After the 1,000 mile break in, they were able to hit:
0-60 in 6.5s
5-60 in 7.0s
30-50 in 3.7s
1/4 mile in 15.1 sec @ 94 mph
Their tester weighs in at 4656 lbs.

It wouldn't be unreasonable to think a LXT would break 6.0s 0-60.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-maintenance/
Interesting. Those are better times than Legacy 3.6R HTCVT owners are reporting with 4hp less and weight 950# less. In 2015, C/D ran 7.1 0-60 and 1/4 mile in 15.5 @ 94mph with a Legacy 3.6R. On the LegacyGT forum, the couple threads I read that owners haven't even matched those times.
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I really think they can pull it off but it all depends how the CVT will behave and stock ECM tuning.
I would take mine straight to Cobb and see what they can cook up for a 92 tune.
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Old 02-16-2019, 05:54 PM   #213
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I really think they can pull it off but it all depends how the CVT will behave and stock ECM tuning.
Based on the 0-60 figure, I'd say that the "new" HTCVT seems to be doing OK so far.
At least, we can't say it's hindering performance; 6.5 secs to 60 with nearly 4700 lbs, that's A-OK.
As far as ECM tuning goes, only time will tell; repeated smallish knock events on regular gas, if any, won't damage things right away. It takes time and owners are barely 9 months into ownership.
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Fuel economy is pretty weak though.

Average Fuel Economy: 18 mpg
Yeah, it's not great but they only have 7K miles on this thing; we should check back at 20K.
My point of reference is their long-term CX-9 that has averaged 22 mpg over 40K miles (less power and less weight though).
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Old 02-18-2019, 11:56 AM   #214
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Fuel economy is pretty weak though.

Average Fuel Economy: 18 mpg
I would take it with a grain of salt for now. The engine doesn't have 7k miles yet, they only had it 2 months in the peak of winter (with some severe cold weather), running snow tires, they are doing performance testing, and they were towing 3500 lb trailer.
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Any guesses for the Touring XT MSRP? The '19 3.6R starts at $31.5k, and can option up to $36k. Are we going to see it start at $35k and option to over $40k?

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Old 03-16-2019, 08:52 PM   #216
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Hell naw. When has Subaru ever made such a price leap? They've been pretty amazing at keeping their pricing tight. Even current STI is a great deal compared to early model STI. WRX maybe went up a little. Like $1k or something like that, right?
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Any guesses for the Touring XT MSRP? The '19 3.6R starts at $31.5k, and can option up to $36k. Are we going to see it start at $35k and option to over $40k?

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Touring?
Forest Touring starts at $35k, the Ascent Touring at $45k, so probably will start at $40k.
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That was my logic... the Forester Touring is $35k, (but it's only the 2.5) I think the Legacy would be around the same, but not a big jump over what is current. A $10k jump would be crazy, just because of the engine/interior.

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Forest Touring starts at $35k, the Ascent Touring at $45k, so probably will start at $40k.
$40k seems appropriate for Outback Touring XT. I bet Legacy Touring XT slots in at $36.5k.
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Any guesses for the Touring XT MSRP? The '19 3.6R starts at $31.5k, and can option up to $36k. Are we going to see it start at $35k and option to over $40k?

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Oh my bad. I missed the "Touring" part. I was thinking of base turbo trim. Yeah $40k seems right to me. I'd wanna snag it for high $30k.
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Oh my bad. I missed the "Touring" part. I was thinking of base turbo trim. Yeah $40k seems right to me. I'd wanna snag it for high $30k.
There’s gotta be more than a $5k spread between equivalent trims of Legacy and Ascent. Ascent is a lot more vehicle. (I mean, unless they can pack like 15 cupholders into the new Legacy.)
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There’s gotta be more than a $5k spread between equivalent trims of Legacy and Ascent. Ascent is a lot more vehicle. (I mean, unless they can pack like 15 cupholders into the new Legacy.)
Don't count em out on that. I can see at least 12, maybe 14 if there are cupholders attached to the armrest console close to the floor for the rear passengers.
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$40k seems appropriate for Outback Touring XT. I bet Legacy Touring XT slots in at $36.5k.
I thought Legacy and outback are the same, just different ride height?
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No hood scoop no rear wiper no care no touring.
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I thought Legacy and outback are the same, just different ride height?

I don't know if it would be that far apart. But, just to try and see the difference, I'd start with the rear gate. On a sedan to hatch Impreza, it was a $500 jump. So, lets apply that to Leg/Out. Then you have the PRG aspect. No clue how much value to put on that. Then the remote seat releases. The only other thing I can think of is just "more" car to an Outback than a Legacy. Couple extra pieces of glass. More metal......
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