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Old 02-08-2021, 07:49 PM   #4476
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I think we are seeing a perfect storm of social media attention and cheap parts being pushed by vendors like Import Image racing. Mishimoto and friends will "sponsor" just about anyone with their sub par parts so they just keep selling parts to people who don't know better.



Meanwhile the veterans just watch it all burn and cling to their forums / small social media groups laughing at the rat race to see who gets more followers.


Amen.

Throwback to this beauty I randomly found before owning my bugeye.

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Old 02-08-2021, 07:56 PM   #4477
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Amen.

Throwback to this beauty I randomly found before owning my bugeye.

Ohhhh prodrive trim , pretty rare to find now
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:04 PM   #4478
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Bugeyes final wheels for a while arrived

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Old 02-08-2021, 08:50 PM   #4479
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Sexy Advans. I want them all! One day Iíll have a 911 on Advan GTís.. one day
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Old 02-09-2021, 12:58 AM   #4480
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18x9 +45 5x114 Advan RG3



What rubbers going on?
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Old 02-09-2021, 02:42 AM   #4481
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For sure, the American car scene is pretty tacky across the board.

The trend I really hate seeing the most, more than cheap China-brand stuff, is the ridiculous "exhaust out the hood" instead of a proper exhaust.



I was following the Boostaholic GC8 build and as soon as he introduced that plan my immediate thought was "you just ruined your car" and I was right. He said he was selling the car because "It's loud and it stinks." Obviously.
yeah that **** is pretty awful. ive always understood it when it came to cars that were purely built for some type of purpose, and style was never considered. didnt make it cool though. the whole idea of having a car that was "like a racecar on the street!" became this really weird commodity to even people who's personality didnt make sense to be driving an incredibly inconvenient machine.

i think thats what a lot of it boils down to, in any type of subculture anywhere in the world but especially in american automotive culture...people dont really know who they are and ultimately they dont care to do the work to learn. the things they do dont actually make sense for who they are because they have no identity. id love to be able to write that into some type of beauty, full of youth and innocence that you dont know who you really are and what you like, why you like it, etc, but it isnt that beautiful. most of it could be chalked up to hyper-masculine bull**** and how most "car people" dont even really like cars, but i wont bother getting into all that here. lol.





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I think we are seeing a perfect storm of social media attention and cheap parts being pushed by vendors like Import Image racing. Mishimoto and friends will "sponsor" just about anyone with their sub par parts so they just keep selling parts to people who don't know better.



Meanwhile the veterans just watch it all burn and cling to their forums / small social media groups laughing at the rat race to see who gets more followers.


i hate giving in to saying things are the fault of social media or anything, as valid as some of that might be i think it really just magnifies things that were already "wrong" with people. people's impatience and rush to have something to show, and in turn resorting to just whatever they can get easily with the least research needed and the least money spent leads to brands like the ones you mentioned becoming successful and most stateside cars being full of them instead of the companies that were around for decades before, tuning since the inception of japanese hot rodding.

i remember when i bought my wrx 8 years ago i could hardly find any parts from all the cool japanese companies that i had dreamt of running since childhood and couldve easily given in the same way and had some weird clapped out machine with $1000 invested into a bunch of american brands that never did nor will understand the culture that allows them to exist, and just made jokes about headgaskets and vapes or whatever people meme about.



unfortunately people doing the opposite of that hasnt been too wonderful either, as now all the cool old jdm stuff is whats become the commodity and it feels like its being pimped out to rich youtube ****s and before we know it the US will be full of people asking for 300 grand for skylines because they bought the last of the old logo nismo parts so they could get views.



whats real will be forever and the rest will just burn down the world around.



anyways,

RG3's are great. the whole RG lineage are incredible wheels.



speaking of parts i always wanted heres a trio of them after i prepped them before spraying some more blood on em. never thought id paint this bumper.


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Old 02-09-2021, 09:37 AM   #4482
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What rubbers going on?
Probably Pilot Super Sport 4S as they do everything while only being a little slower than a 200tw

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yeah that **** is pretty awful. ive always understood it when it came to cars that were purely built for some type of purpose, and style was never considered. didnt make it cool though. the whole idea of having a car that was "like a racecar on the street!" became this really weird commodity to even people who's personality didnt make sense to be driving an incredibly inconvenient machine.

i think thats what a lot of it boils down to, in any type of subculture anywhere in the world but especially in american automotive culture...people dont really know who they are and ultimately they dont care to do the work to learn. the things they do dont actually make sense for who they are because they have no identity. id love to be able to write that into some type of beauty, full of youth and innocence that you dont know who you really are and what you like, why you like it, etc, but it isnt that beautiful. most of it could be chalked up to hyper-masculine bull**** and how most "car people" dont even really like cars, but i wont bother getting into all that here. lol.









i hate giving in to saying things are the fault of social media or anything, as valid as some of that might be i think it really just magnifies things that were already "wrong" with people. people's impatience and rush to have something to show, and in turn resorting to just whatever they can get easily with the least research needed and the least money spent leads to brands like the ones you mentioned becoming successful and most stateside cars being full of them instead of the companies that were around for decades before, tuning since the inception of japanese hot rodding.

i remember when i bought my wrx 8 years ago i could hardly find any parts from all the cool japanese companies that i had dreamt of running since childhood and couldve easily given in the same way and had some weird clapped out machine with $1000 invested into a bunch of american brands that never did nor will understand the culture that allows them to exist, and just made jokes about headgaskets and vapes or whatever people meme about.



unfortunately people doing the opposite of that hasnt been too wonderful either, as now all the cool old jdm stuff is whats become the commodity and it feels like its being pimped out to rich youtube ****s and before we know it the US will be full of people asking for 300 grand for skylines because they bought the last of the old logo nismo parts so they could get views.



whats real will be forever and the rest will just burn down the world around.



anyways,

RG3's are great. the whole RG lineage are incredible wheels.



speaking of parts i always wanted heres a trio of them after i prepped them before spraying some more blood on em. never thought id paint this bumper.


Yeah Social media just kinda amplified all the crazies and made them louder.

I bought my Wrx in 2013 so its been about 8 years and luckily I was around for the beginnings of Croober and learned all about Yahoo auctions. I still go on croober sometimes but it seems the Russians buy out all the cool stuff before I even get a chance.
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Old 02-09-2021, 03:22 PM   #4483
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Probably Pilot Super Sport 4S as they do everything while only being a little slower than a 200tw







Yeah Social media just kinda amplified all the crazies and made them louder.



I bought my Wrx in 2013 so its been about 8 years and luckily I was around for the beginnings of Croober and learned all about Yahoo auctions. I still go on croober sometimes but it seems the Russians buy out all the cool stuff before I even get a chance.


Iíve never really had luck with croober but Iíve used YAJ for a long time and itís the same issue. I couldnít tell you the amount of times Iíve been bidding for something that would normally sell for pennies and I get outbid at the last moment just to see the exact item being sold for 1000% more than what it sold for by the reseller in the us that won it. america really just soaks everything in capitalism even if itíll eventually kill it.
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Old 02-09-2021, 07:51 PM   #4484
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I've never really had luck with croober but I've used YAJ for a long time and it's the same issue. I couldn't tell you the amount of times I've been bidding for something that would normally sell for pennies and I get outbid at the last moment just to see the exact item being sold for 1000% more than what it sold for by the reseller in the us that won it. america really just soaks everything in capitalism even if it'll eventually kill it.
I've gotten some pretty good stuff from Upgarage off Croober. Never just browsed on Croober though.

YAJ can be competitive. It could be a good idea to put in an automatic counterbid when you place your bid. I was in a bit of a bid war with someone over BBS wheels and the automatic counterbid I put was slightly higher than their next bid (the minimum bid I assume) and I won it.

But it's pretty terrible when the bid winners turn around and do what you described.
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Old 02-09-2021, 09:08 PM   #4485
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The U.K. pages have some good deals if you can get them to ship to the US. They seem to be catching on to the US market and bumping prices up lately. Shipping has gone up so high though I havenít bought much from overseas in the last year. At this point I think even if I lived in Japan I couldnít recreate my car the way it sits with all this junk
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Old 02-09-2021, 09:08 PM   #4486
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Its fun when you see something in Japan then one of the "Top Shelf Rare Parts" guys on facebook posts it a few months later
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Old 02-09-2021, 11:58 PM   #4487
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Its fun when you see something in Japan then one of the "Top Shelf Rare Parts" guys on facebook posts it a few months later

There were some orciari fog covers on eBay for cheap a month ago. Around $100 iirc and this douche on top shelf bought them while I was waiting for the seller to reply with a authenticity question. Literally not even an hour later this turd had them posted on top shelf for $400 using the eBay sellers photos . I roasted him hard and he got seriously butthurt and defensive. I buy **** I intend to flip all the time, if I get it for a steal and donít want to keep it I sell it for a profit but also keep it reasonable enough that itís a good deal for the buyer so. Not like these thirsty cash grab idiots , some of these dick bags on there take it too far sometimes.
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Old 02-16-2021, 09:44 PM   #4488
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:11 PM   #4489
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Cleaned off some snow for the first time in years.





Glad I waited on installing the ARP long wheel studs so I can run the BBS LMs.
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Old 02-18-2021, 08:16 AM   #4490
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On the whole social media thing, and followers. For the first time in my career, over the last year, I was able to telework from home as a result of COVID. Bored out of my mind, I jumped into the sponsorship game and have some thoughts on "problems" with the community right now.

1. Non-veterans, especially ones that only care about clout, don't know how to differentiate a real sponsorship (ie: a partnership that helps both parties) from a fake "sponsorship" -- and pursue anything available. This leads to people that list every fake sponsorship they have in their profile, and it's just sad.

I'll give an example. WickedlyBoosted. They are a clothing line company. They offer a "sponsorship" of something like 25% of all their clothing, but the catch is, you have to buy X number of items first. If you buy the required items, you actually purchased anything worthwhile from their product line, and basically neither save money, and don't gain anything meaningful from the relationship. This is a FAKE sponsorship.

2. Mishimoto and Grimmspeed both offer entry-level sponsorships that aren't bad at giving a discount if you don't have some of the basics. Coincidentally, to an extent, both companies base the level of support on the number of followers you have. They give you a rating, and it translates to a percentage.

3. Real sponsorships, that involves both parties gaining from the relationship in a meaningful way, actually do still exist. Only thing is, most non-veterans don't know how to market or pitch their niche build. I was able to pick up a partnership with Chase Bays, but it's heavily contractual and requires I do meaningful things that help the company. In exchange, I do receive a significant discount on their products, which I do actually need for a serious project.

Anyhow, just food for thought.
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Old 02-18-2021, 08:45 AM   #4491
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^^ Could not have been said better.
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Old 02-18-2021, 10:15 AM   #4492
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On the whole social media thing, and followers. For the first time in my career, over the last year, I was able to telework from home as a result of COVID. Bored out of my mind, I jumped into the sponsorship game and have some thoughts on "problems" with the community right now.

1. Non-veterans, especially ones that only care about clout, don't know how to differentiate a real sponsorship (ie: a partnership that helps both parties) from a fake "sponsorship" -- and pursue anything available. This leads to people that list every fake sponsorship they have in their profile, and it's just sad.

I'll give an example. WickedlyBoosted. They are a clothing line company. They offer a "sponsorship" of something like 25% of all their clothing, but the catch is, you have to buy X number of items first. If you buy the required items, you actually purchased anything worthwhile from their product line, and basically neither save money, and don't gain anything meaningful from the relationship. This is a FAKE sponsorship.

2. Mishimoto and Grimmspeed both offer entry-level sponsorships that aren't bad at giving a discount if you don't have some of the basics. Coincidentally, to an extent, both companies base the level of support on the number of followers you have. They give you a rating, and it translates to a percentage.

3. Real sponsorships, that involves both parties gaining from the relationship in a meaningful way, actually do still exist. Only thing is, most non-veterans don't know how to market or pitch their niche build. I was able to pick up a partnership with Chase Bays, but it's heavily contractual and requires I do meaningful things that help the company. In exchange, I do receive a significant discount on their products, which I do actually need for a serious project.

Anyhow, just food for thought.
1 and 2 are not real sponsorships but merely companies using useful idiots to push product at cost or right above cost.


3 really depends on what you can offer the company from a marketing or R&D perspective. There are a handful of high profile time attack programs that are getting really good support in the Subaru world.

Idins WTAC bugeye via GIR , Deweys GC at Six Star , Mike's GR STi at Turn in Concepts and Halka's GR time attack car are all examples of podium capable builds that can get a vendor a ton of exposure. Falken has been sponsoring the Gridlife guys left and right helping with tire consumables.
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Old 02-18-2021, 11:37 AM   #4493
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On number three, precisely. A lot of people who pursue sponsorships have NO IDEA how to market themselves based on what they can offer the company -- and it's not just how many followers you have.

In my case, for Chase Bays, the partnership involved working with them on documentation material for new products.
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Old 02-18-2021, 12:52 PM   #4494
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Been a while guys!

Tons of changes over the winter - I broke my bottom line kit and gave up on subtlety since there's really nothing subtle about a bugeye to begin with.



New bits are authentic Prodrive lip I sourced "new old stock" from a U.K. Subaru dealer's parts counter a couple years ago, genuine JDM aero mudguard set like Kochi's (rear are in storage), and a Tommykaira side diffuser also "new old stock" from IAG I picked up over the counter. It no longer clears my steep driveway without help

I also got a kick that diffuser box had "9Vapors" written on it in permanent marker (for those who remember that army "urban green" z4 color bugeye build from early Nasioc/bugeye thread) as testament to how long its been sitting

Next I'm hoping to restore my Advan and Work 18" wheels in storage that need a little love.

Love seeing some great familiar builds still going!
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Old 02-23-2021, 06:09 AM   #4495
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I hate to say it but it used to be really easy getting good stuff from Japan pre-2003 before you guys over there got your first locally delivered STI's and the pricing went stupid
Now era 2000-2002 GDBA/B stuff is pretty much all gone.
I'm sure the RA re-build will be my last bugeye project as thats using up my 20 years of stored STI sedan parts - I'll post some pics as it gets closer to being done
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Old 02-23-2021, 12:57 PM   #4496
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I hate to say it but it used to be really easy getting good stuff from Japan pre-2003 before you guys over there got your first locally delivered STI's and the pricing went stupid
Now era 2000-2002 GDBA/B stuff is pretty much all gone.
I'm sure the RA re-build will be my last bugeye project as thats using up my 20 years of stored STI sedan parts - I'll post some pics as it gets closer to being done

If it wasnít for the US market, STi wouldnít be what it is today. Letís be honest, Subaru hasnít been in the WRC since 2008, yet in the US we still have active large caliber teams such as Vermont Sports Car builds for Rally America series. Prices go up regardless due to demand worldwide.
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Old 02-23-2021, 02:39 PM   #4497
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yep thats exactly my point mate, talking about what it was, not what it's turned out to be ;-)
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Old 02-23-2021, 06:39 PM   #4498
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yep thats exactly my point mate, talking about what it was, not what it's turned out to be ;-)
It could also be a case of aftermarket parts manufacturers just no longer offering the same products. HKS for example has stopped producing cams and injectors for the GDA/GDB chassis. I tried purchasing a few different HKS parts for mine only to get messages from the seller that the manufacturer no longer produces the part.

If you're talking about used stuff, that doesn't last forever. It gets old and rotted, cars get crashed, and the source eventually dries up. Sure, people buy and hoard (for 20 years even!), but it's not just people in the US...
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Old 02-23-2021, 08:21 PM   #4499
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Luckily you can still collect a lot of the old school ****box parts

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I hate to say it but it used to be really easy getting good stuff from Japan pre-2003 before you guys over there got your first locally delivered STI's and the pricing went stupid
Now era 2000-2002 GDBA/B stuff is pretty much all gone.
I'm sure the RA re-build will be my last bugeye project as thats using up my 20 years of stored STI sedan parts - I'll post some pics as it gets closer to being done

Pretty sure all the bugeye owners in here are very likely currently on their last bugeye project as well . With most the usdm/cad ones rotted, wrecked or clapped out (as the kids say) by now anyone that owns one that's rot free and preserved is not selling because they have so much of themselves invested that it's akin to selling a piece of your soul by now. At the rate these greedy import parts dealers have been buying them up and chopping them I'll be surprised if there'll be many to import 5 years from now. I myself would like to grab another grey market one before the 25 year market bell rings to store for myself just in case tragedy strikes to mine.
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