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Old 01-24-2021, 07:39 AM   #3301
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Old 01-24-2021, 11:37 AM   #3302
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I wonder how Sweden is doing with that whole herd immunity approach??
Deaths per capita.

Sweden 1,086.
Denmark 342.

Belgium 1,742
UK 1,438
Italy 1,415
USA. 1,288

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
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Old 01-24-2021, 03:02 PM   #3303
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I just got the first dose of the Moderna vaccine about an hour ago. My arm is sore but only a little so far. The doctor who gave me the injection said they did 181 vaccinations yesterday and only had one person have a reaction. That person had a headache, that's it, a headache. I know 181 people is a small sample size but I feel pretty good about those odds.
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Old 01-24-2021, 03:42 PM   #3304
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For me the soreness developed over about 18 hours then faded.
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:40 AM   #3305
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Vaccines are quickly averting serious cases of COVID-19 among the most vulnerable members of society, an Israeli healthcare provider has indicated.

The full effects of Pfizer's vaccine are only slated to kick in around a month after the first shot, but data from Israel, home to the world's fastest vaccination drive, has already shown that there is a stark drop in infections even before this point.
Attracting widespread international interest by sharing early data, Maccabi Healthcare Services reported earlier this month that it has seen a 60 percent reduction in coronavirus infections three weeks after the first shot is administered.

But it wasn't clear if the benefits were being felt equally by those who have a propensity to mild infection and those who would be likely to take COVID-19 badly.

Now, Maccabi is starting to answer the question that hospitals and health ministers around the world are anxiously asking, amid fears of health service meltdowns: How quickly will COVID-19 wards start to see the benefits of vaccination?

The decrease in hospital admissions is swift after vaccination, Maccabi suggests in its latest data, finding that hospitalizations start to fall sharply from Day 18 after people receive the first shot. Galia Rahav, head of infectious diseases at Israel's largest hospital, Sheba Medical Center, described the data as "very important."

By Day 23, which is 2 days after the second shot, there is a 60% drop in hospitalizations among vaccinated people aged 60-plus, Maccabi revealed after monitoring 50,777 patients. It compared their hospitalization rate at that point with their hospitalization rate soon after receiving the vaccine, using 7-day moving averages.

"This is very important data," Rahav, who is unconnected to the study, told The Times of Israel. "It has an impact because amid high infection rates and the spread of variants it's hard to see from general figures how vaccination is influencing things.

"By giving an insight into hospitalizations among just those elderly people who were vaccinated, this data is valuable."

However, she cautioned that some of the drop may be due to a tendency of newly vaccinated people to adhere to lockdown rules, which causes a drop in infection and hospitalization.

The new data also supports Maccabi's earlier claim of a 60% infection rate drop after three weeks, reporting that it saw the same drop with a new sample comprising only the 60-plus age group.

Maccabi's graph gives a real picture of infection in Israel, showing that until Day 13, vaccinated over-60s had similar infection rates as the overall 60-plus population. Then, a gap opens, and by Day 23, there were 18 daily infections among the 50,777 overall, but just six among the vaccinated.
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Old 01-25-2021, 04:30 AM   #3306
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I am crediting the fact that I had the first round of vaccine before I caught the ‘rona for keeping my symptoms as mild as they were.
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Old 01-25-2021, 07:46 AM   #3307
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I just got the first dose of the Moderna vaccine about an hour ago. My arm is sore but only a little so far.
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For me the soreness developed over about 18 hours then faded.
I got the Pfizer vaccine (didn't have a choice) around 4pm and the next morning my arm was sore. It lasted for a day or two.

That was last Tuesday when I got the vaccine.
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Old 01-25-2021, 10:21 AM   #3308
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Okay.....?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSvYWqLH7js

Does this mean we're going steady?
Yeah, a song about getting rid of a virus with rock and roll in a thread about a virus with a name that happens.. Ah, nevermind

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Old 01-25-2021, 10:52 AM   #3309
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https://www.foxla.com/news/restaurant-union-expecting-gov-newsom-to-lift-stay-at-home-orders-for-all-of-california

It's a miracle! A week after the inauguration, and we're set to open up, despite being super hard hit, and Biden saying we could hit 500k dead soon. Of course, this has nothing to do with the fact that gains recall hit 1m signatures, and the lock down did nothing but make the spread worse....
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Old 01-25-2021, 10:58 AM   #3310
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Old 01-25-2021, 11:07 AM   #3311
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For me the soreness developed over about 18 hours then faded.
It is definitely more sore this morning.
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Old 01-25-2021, 12:12 PM   #3312
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Don't make phone calls or talk to each other on public transport to prevent spread of Covid, French commuters are told
France National Academy of Medecine said to avoid talking and making calls
Said there was no problem if there were only three people in a subway car
Comments came as French people in the eastern city of Lyon flocked to shops
Comment dites-vous en français...Karènes?
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:24 PM   #3313
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:26 PM   #3314
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Haven't been on this thread for a while. Thought for sure poison was arrested for insurrection at the Capitol or moved to Palm Beach.

I am disappoint.
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Old 01-25-2021, 01:32 PM   #3315
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Haven't been on this thread for a while. Thought for sure poison was arrested for insurrection at the Capitol or moved to Palm Beach.

I am disappoint.
I'm so sorry you have to hear info you don't like and ideas you have not been force fed. Have a hug.

And remember:

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Old 01-25-2021, 01:45 PM   #3316
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Those two statements do not contradict each other.
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Old 01-25-2021, 02:17 PM   #3317
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Debatable.

On Oct 15 he says he has a plan to get the virus under control.

Then today (or whatever recently is, probably last week) he says, "there is nothing we can do."
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Old 01-25-2021, 02:29 PM   #3318
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Debatable.

On Oct 15 he says he has a plan to get the virus under control.

Then today (or whatever recently is, probably last week) he says, "there is nothing we can do."
I think the Biden team is saying that is a plan to get the virus under control, but at its current trajectory, there isn't much that can be done at a Federal level to slow it. Unless maybe everyone is open to a nationwide mask mandate. HAHAHAHHAH hooo boy!
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Old 01-25-2021, 02:36 PM   #3319
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I think the Biden team is saying that is a plan to get the virus under control, but at its current trajectory, there isn't much that can be done at a Federal level to slow it. Unless maybe everyone is open to a nationwide mask mandate. HAHAHAHHAH hooo boy!
This is the new Peloton.

Hey idiots: inertia is a thing. Having a rational plan for things to improve is not mutually exclusive with the reality of the problem...still being there. This is a weird corollary of the gun thing. Welp, the problem isn't fixed today by ____, therefore nothing works and wham SOMALIA PARTY!

But debating in good faith never was on the menu, was it?
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Old 01-25-2021, 02:39 PM   #3320
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Looks at speeping oil gasket:

You know, I have a plan that could fix that.

Seeping is ignored for months, then ruptures spewing oil everywhere.

WhERes YoUr Plan NOw????
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Old 01-25-2021, 02:40 PM   #3321
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The fact that this dumb talking point has to be discussed at all is embarrassing. But very important for independent minded folk.

The deficit matters in 3...2...1...
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On October 15th the 7 day average of cases in the US was at ~54k. On Election Day the 7 day average was up to ~88k. November 21st was the last time the 7 day average was where we are today at ~170k. Thanksgiving and Christmas and New Years had not even happened yet.

We are now just finding new US grown strains that are thought to have been spreading since summer that caused the huge spike in cases and deaths. Was the previous administration doing enough? Is Biden promising to do more? No matter the position one takes, the reality is we were and currently are not equipped to handle these types of pandemics even a little and when it slows to an endemic mutation what will we have learned. I think we all know the answer to that question.
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Politicians who care about the deficit: Rand Paul.

Can we name another one?

Masks are fine by me. Now people crowding my space is another issue.
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Old 01-25-2021, 02:53 PM   #3324
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I think the Biden team is saying that is a plan to get the virus under control, but at its current trajectory, there isn't much that can be done at a Federal level to slow it. Unless maybe everyone is open to a nationwide mask mandate. HAHAHAHHAH hooo boy!
There is a nationwide mask mandate.

For Federal property. Did what he could, won’t help the areas that need it.
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Old 01-25-2021, 03:08 PM   #3325
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I think the Biden team is saying that is a plan to get the virus under control, but at its current trajectory, there isn't much that can be done at a Federal level to slow it. Unless maybe everyone is open to a nationwide mask mandate. HAHAHAHHAH hooo boy!
Or maybe he's just a duplicitous whore and going back on every talking point he used against trump. Before:



Today:

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Biden to reinstate COVID-19 travel rules

President Joe Biden on Monday will formally reinstate COVID-19 travel restrictions on non-U.S. travelers from Brazil, Ireland, the United Kingdom and 26 other European countries that allow travel across open borders, according to two White House officials.
He had a year to come up with a plan. He said he had a plan. Apparently his plan is to do what Trump did.

suckers
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