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Old 03-03-2014, 10:52 AM   #76
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Remeber that the engine pistons is sitting flat so even when parked, there is some oil seepage. With most engines, pistons are upright so oil will drain back in the pan. So I believe this explain the oil consumption unless I'm mistaken.
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Old 03-03-2014, 10:58 AM   #77
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^^Interesting theory that I've never considered before. But I don't think it makes sense to me. I don't see why that would cause more consumption (that is, burning of oil).
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:15 AM   #78
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Is there any other manufacturers who state in the car's user manual that 1qt per 1200 miles is OK?
Porsche sets the limit at 1qt per 600 miles on their boxers.

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^^Interesting theory that I've never considered before. But I don't think it makes sense to me. I don't see why that would cause more consumption (that is, burning of oil).
I would guess that after shutdown, gravity collects oil at the lowest part of the bores on a boxer. This is probably burned off on the next start.
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Old 03-03-2014, 12:38 PM   #79
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And the burning off at start is why people lose oil without leaks or seeing the car smoke. Most can not see behind car at startup.
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Old 03-03-2014, 12:58 PM   #80
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And the burning off at start is why people lose oil without leaks or seeing the car smoke. Most can not see behind car at startup.
Some good sense there, I don't burn any oil or very little, between oil changes but then I only start it twice a day, to head in and to head home. Weekends pretty much the same, might go to the store and back home, generally I don't even drive on Sundays.
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Old 03-03-2014, 01:02 PM   #81
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Remeber that the engine pistons is sitting flat so even when parked, there is some oil seepage. With most engines, pistons are upright so oil will drain back in the pan. So I believe this explain the oil consumption unless I'm mistaken.
I have seen the similar theory on a different forum:

"Boxer engines, like the one found in your WRX, tend to burn oil vaster than V or inline motors because they are flat and it's easier for oil to seep into the combustion chamber. Also, if you don't let your engine run for a minute to let your turbo cool down, some oil may be burned there too."
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Old 03-03-2014, 01:24 PM   #82
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Re MPG: I can get 44 mpg on the highway by driving 60-65mph (more in the mountains), but it will quickly drop off after 65. In the winter I haven't been able to get above 38 on any extended highway trip even going 60-65 (winter tires/fuel). That said, in town, I'm lucky to break 22 in the winter, 26 in the summer.

Re seat squeak: easy fix, $2 part, or a bit of e-tape strategically placed. The dealer did one seat of mine, screwed it up, so I did the other one, easy enough.

Re oil consumption: i don't have it, *knock on wood* but some do. Subaru's aren't the only new cars showing this problem. I don't think it's as widespread as the forums would indicate, but it is a big problem, I think. If mine started using more than 0.5-1qt per 5-7.5k oil change interval, I'd sell it off for some used $5-10k daily driver.

I love the car, and so long as no big oil consumption pops up, I'll probably drive it till rust splits it in half.

I only have 3 dislikes about it, and only one of those really irks me.
1. Orange peel on the paint, this is the one that really irks me, and why I would move to a used car to find one without it, most new cars today have it pretty bad.
2. Lock-to-lock ratio of steering wheel. A right hand turn takes a full 360 of the wheel. The steering is very precise, and you feel the road no problem, but I just wish it were tighter, and less steering wheel movement was necessary to move the wheels (minor gripe).
3. Door locks don't automatically lock when you get above a certain speed, say 20 mph, and you can't just pull open the doors when it's locked (minor gripe).

That's pretty much it.

If I had to go back and buy a car again in 2012 (Dec 31st, 2011 delivery for me), I'd buy the Subaru again from all the other cars in that segment. The only real choices then were the Focus (unbelievably bad road feel/driving experience) and the Mazda 3 (terrible interior build quality).

If I was buying in the same segment today, and didn't really need AWD (I probably don't), I'd really strongly consider the new Mazda3. They've fixed my gripes with it, and I think it's a pretty awesome car now; maybe a Honda Civic SI coupe, but I don't know much about those.

If i repurchased the Impreza today, I'd probably get the 5-door. I'm not a fan of the 5-door non-sport look, but I think it'd be useful (and I prefer function over form/aesthetics). I'm still perfectly happy with the sedan though, and don't regret getting it at all.

My...maybe more than 2 cents.
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:25 PM   #83
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I am 6'3" and I did not fit into 5dr Impreza. The dealer told me that 4dr versions is the same. :-)

I had my right knee tightly against the steering wheel.

I used to own 91 Civic Hatchback, 93 Civic sedan, and my dad has 99 Mazda Protege. I fit all these vehicles.

The dealer offered to try Legacy but I did not want to give it a try. It is a diff. class, we already own a large car, Tribeca.

I am disappointed that I could not move the seat little bit more back or the steering wheel little bit more up or forward. I wonder if I could replace the seat with some race seat that would fit. Ha ha...
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:34 PM   #84
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I am 6'3" and I did not fit into 5dr Impreza.
Interesting, and a bit surprising. The Impreza is known to be one of the roomiest cars in its class.

Oh well....

Did the salesperson know that the steering wheel tilts/telescopes?

You might want to give the Forester a try....
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:55 PM   #85
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Did the salesperson know that the steering wheel tilts/telescopes?
The seat also pumps down...
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:58 PM   #86
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I don't understand how you didn't fit in the car. I'm 6'2" and can hardly reach the pedals with the seat all the way back. My brother is 6'5" and fits comforably
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:09 PM   #87
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The seat also pumps down...
That is what I told my wife on the way home. I missed that. The sales guy missed that too.

Now that I am thinking about it, I think I pushed the steering wheel all the way forward and up instead of towards me. I feel like an idiot now but I was siting there like a duck thinking what the hack! The sales guy unfriendly face and manners (not rude though) probably did not help the situation either. When we left we where happy that we did not have to spend more time with him.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:11 PM   #88
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I don't understand how you didn't fit in the car. I'm 6'2" and can hardly reach the pedals with the seat all the way back. My brother is 6'5" and fits comforably
Oh man, I need to go back and face the unfriendly sales guy again. May be we need to wear some fancy cloth to be better treated. LOL

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Old 03-04-2014, 09:08 PM   #89
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I am 6'3" and I did not fit into 5dr Impreza. The dealer told me that 4dr versions is the same. :-)

I had my right knee tightly against the steering wheel.

I used to own 91 Civic Hatchback, 93 Civic sedan, and my dad has 99 Mazda Protege. I fit all these vehicles.

The dealer offered to try Legacy but I did not want to give it a try. It is a diff. class, we already own a large car, Tribeca.

I am disappointed that I could not move the seat little bit more back or the steering wheel little bit more up or forward. I wonder if I could replace the seat with some race seat that would fit. Ha ha...
I'm 6'4 and fit fine and I don't have the seat all the way back
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:03 PM   #90
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I am 6'3" and I did not fit into 5dr Impreza. The dealer told me that 4dr versions is the same. :-)

I had my right knee tightly against the steering wheel.

I used to own 91 Civic Hatchback, 93 Civic sedan, and my dad has 99 Mazda Protege. I fit all these vehicles.

The dealer offered to try Legacy but I did not want to give it a try. It is a diff. class, we already own a large car, Tribeca.

I am disappointed that I could not move the seat little bit more back or the steering wheel little bit more up or forward. I wonder if I could replace the seat with some race seat that would fit. Ha ha...
Something must have been adjusted wrong. The steering wheel tilts and telescopes you know. I'm 6, 2' and fit just fine, and that's with the seat slightly farther forward than usual to account for clutch throw. You should fit it just fine.
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:14 PM   #91
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Oh man, I need to go back and face the unfriendly sales guy again. May be we need to wear some fancy cloth to be better treated. LOL

Thanks!
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:58 PM   #92
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I am 6'3" and I did not fit into 5dr Impreza. The dealer told me that 4dr versions is the same. :-).
That seems odd. I'm taller than you and fit just fine without even putting the seat all the way back. Are you sure you adjusted it?

The sunroof does cut headroom a little so if you're tall look for one without a sunroof.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:18 AM   #93
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What everyone else said...

Either you're actually 7'3", or the salesman is an idiot, and you should go to another dealer or tell the sales manager you need a different salesman. I'd opt for a different dealership if there's one within an hour drive.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:55 AM   #94
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I found a huge difference in the dealerships in our area. Try another one if there are any. I drove a hundred miles and saved a wad of cash and have never been treated better.

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Old 03-05-2014, 07:42 AM   #95
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Thank you all for your help! I will go to a different dealership as even my wife said that if I go back she will wait for me in our car (the Impreza is intended primary for her use). :-)
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Thank you all for your help! I will go to a different dealership as even my wife said that if I go back she will wait for me in our car (the Impreza is intended primary for her use). :-)
And what did she think of the Impreza?
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Old 03-05-2014, 08:09 AM   #97
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And what did she think of the Impreza?
Her 1st reaction (only 5dr version was on the floor, we want 4dr ) was that it is bigger than she though. But we literally ran away from there without taking a closer look.
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Old 03-05-2014, 08:19 AM   #98
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Her 1st reaction (only 5dr version was on the floor, we want 4dr ) was that it is bigger than she though. But we literally ran away from there without taking a closer look.
OK. Yeah, I'd give the Impreza another shot, using a different dealership (or at least a different salesperson).

Where are you located?
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Old 03-05-2014, 08:41 AM   #99
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^^Interesting theory that I've never considered before. But I don't think it makes sense to me. I don't see why that would cause more consumption (that is, burning of oil).
Lol my 1966 Volkswagen agrees with you. And so do I.
That 50+ year old car has a flat four, aircooled even, and has never had any noticeable oil loss between changes.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:36 AM   #100
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Something must have been adjusted wrong. The steering wheel tilts and telescopes you know. I'm 6, 2' and fit just fine, and that's with the seat slightly farther forward than usual to account for clutch throw. You should fit it just fine.
This is probably a dumb question but what is the ideal positioning of seat to steering wheel positioning? I probably just have bike fit thoughts going on but my Touareg didn't have as many options so I find myself constantly making adjustments. Do you just move everything so you're comfortable or what?
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