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Old 11-15-2019, 03:36 AM   #51
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Still no real info, really? Man.

Also the new car must be ages away as nothing has been seen. Chucking the new engine in a 2020 and testing incognito isn't enough. They need to test the whole package of drivetrain and chassis (sgp which the dealers on here say is waaaaay better than the old one) in the real world. Last one was out testing in different guises for about a year. Supra was driving around for what, 2 years?

This car isn't just going to be revealed at new York and then on sale this year. It's still ages away, just my opinion tho.....
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:09 AM   #52
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This car isn't just going to be revealed at new York and then on sale this year. It's still ages away, just my opinion tho.....
They've done it before with the BugEye WRX. Was held quiet for its creation and then maybe a week or two before the reveal someone posted the pic of the bugeye. They announced it at a Jan show and said "ordering will be open tomorrow."

Maybe something surprising will happen at the upcoming LA show...?

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Old 11-15-2019, 12:35 PM   #53
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They've done it before with the BugEye WRX. Was held quiet for its creation and then maybe a week or two before the reveal someone posted the pic of the bugeye. They announced it at a Jan show and said "ordering will be open tomorrow."

Maybe something surprising will happen at the upcoming LA show...?

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That was the age before mobile phones and social media. It would be pretty near impossible to keep that quiet today. One can always hope though.
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Old 11-15-2019, 02:31 PM   #54
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Before phones with cameras. Yes.

Before digital cameras? No.

Before cell phones? Also no.

Before social media? Also, also no.

All one had to do was pull the files off your camera onto your computer and email to publisher or put on a forum.

Check my join date. This is also social media. It's not twitter or FB, but there were places people went for stuff. Also, car magazines, et al had their online presence up and running.

Photos were shared, albeit just *slightly* differently than *now*. It may had taken a few minutes to pull the pics off the camera and email them or post/share them.

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Old 11-15-2019, 06:37 PM   #55
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It's hard to argue how many more cameras there are now compared to then. I'm also surprised we haven't seen anything yet.
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:49 PM   #56
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Before phones with cameras. Yes.

Before digital cameras? No.

Before cell phones? Also no.

Before social media? Also, also no.

All one had to do was pull the files off your camera onto your computer and email to publisher or put on a forum.

Check my join date. This is also social media. It's not twitter or FB, but there were places people went for stuff. Also, car magazines, et al had their online presence up and running.

Photos were shared, albeit just *slightly* differently than *now*. It may had taken a few minutes to pull the pics off the camera and email them or post/share them.

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In 2000/2001 almost no one:
Carried digital cameras around everywhere they went
Had a phone with a camera. doesn't matter if they had a phone or not.
Used well connected social media (forums are not considered social media)
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Old 11-15-2019, 10:18 PM   #57
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In 2000/2001 almost no one:
Carried digital cameras around everywhere they went
Had a phone with a camera. doesn't matter if they had a phone or not.
Used well connected social media (forums are not considered social media)
The amount of cameras are beside the point. It's the will to take a picture in the first place. Only a small handful of people give a **** about future models. Less and less so with the current generation who had cameras implanted into their retinas at birth.

Forums are forums. Car people are car people. They gather where the platform provides the most use and share info related to cars. That's this place. People who cross forums will post information between them and that's how more people see it. Sure it's easier to spread it on one platform like facebook, but the same principle applies. It will spread all over.

No shortage of cameras and camera phones existed in Japan back then. That's where the bugeye came from.
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:19 PM   #58
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The amount of cameras are beside the point. It's the will to take a picture in the first place. Only a small handful of people give a **** about future models. Less and less so with the current generation who had cameras implanted into their retinas at birth.

Forums are forums. Car people are car people. They gather where the platform provides the most use and share info related to cars. That's this place. People who cross forums will post information between them and that's how more people see it. Sure it's easier to spread it on one platform like facebook, but the same principle applies. It will spread all over.

No shortage of cameras and camera phones existed in Japan back then. That's where the bugeye came from.
There definitely was a shortage of camera phones in Japan in 2000 and now one was carrying a freaking Powershot in their pocket. Spy photos and leaks back then came from official photos or Brenda Priddy.
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:30 PM   #59
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I also think you forget how rare it was to see any official spy shot of a Subaru back then compared to other brands. Everything released in the JDM market first (usually a year ahead) and it was before Subaru did a lot of finished bodywork mule testing in the US. The best we would get would be artist renderings from Japanese magazines.
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Old 11-16-2019, 01:41 AM   #60
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I also think you forget how rare it was to see any official spy shot of a Subaru back then compared to other brands. Everything released in the JDM market first (usually a year ahead) and it was before Subaru did a lot of finished bodywork mule testing in the US. The best we would get would be artist renderings from Japanese magazines.
I love all those renderings. Got books and books of them. Most were pretty close to the finished product.
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Old 11-16-2019, 02:39 AM   #61
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I first saw bugeye wrx from Japanese car magazine at Narita airport on my way to Korea in summer of 2000. That's when nobody from the U.S. really knew about bugeye. When it came out on 2001 as 2002 model, I bought my first brand new Subaru, bugeye wrx. It was a bit different in good old days.
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:10 AM   #62
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US should've never Subaru'd. There. I said it. We can't have nice things. The US is like The Narrator in Fight Club. "I wanted to destroy something beautiful."
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:27 AM   #63
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Better to have loved and lost than to have never loved......

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Old 11-16-2019, 10:55 AM   #64
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what about the spyshot of the levorg, if the 2 cars are based off each other. what does that mean for the wrx. was the wrx development finished and they used that as a base for the levorg in the spyshot. also we only caught the 2020 legacy spy pics here. the outback was never spotted in the open before they released the teaser for the auto show.
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Old 11-16-2019, 02:52 PM   #65
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Bring on the new STi coupe. I will buy and will watch Subros Beard Vapors cry in agony!
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Old 11-16-2019, 03:09 PM   #66
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Bring on the new STi coupe. I will buy and will watch Subros Beard Vapors cry in agony!
a launch edition 2 door STI commemorating the legendary 22b with gold rims would be fire.
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Old 11-18-2019, 12:51 PM   #67
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I honestly just miss WRB with Gold wheel combo.
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:21 PM   #68
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Yeah the S209 color combos are odd considering.
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Next-Gen Subaru WRX STI Could Be Two-Door Coupe Co-Developed With Toyota: Report
Subaru's upcoming performance model could take a page from the legendary 22B's handbook.

BY JAMES GILBOY NOVEMBER 4, 2019

In its next iteration, the Subaru WRX STI—as well as its more civilian WRX brethren—could reportedly abandon its current four-door body style to bring back the coupe format not seen since the rally-inspired car's first generation.

Japan's Best Car claims the new two-door WRX could use an updated version of the current 2.0-liter turbo power plant, the FA20. This echoes a prior story that the FA20 would stick around in the new WRX and would be paired exclusively to a continuously variable transmission (CVT) with sport shifting modes. It will reportedly use an improved version of Subaru's performance all-wheel-drive system, upgraded with the help of Toyota.

More significant but still incremental powertrain updates will reportedly come to the WRX STI, which is apparently set to retain a six-speed manual transmission and upgrade to Subaru's turbocharged, all-aluminum FA24. This engine has also been identified as a possible power unit for the next generation of Subaru BRZ/Toyota 86, known to some as the Toyobaru.

Though Subaru has committed to building all near-future models on the Subaru Global Platform or "SGP," which platform the WRX and STI will use remains uncertain. It could possibly share a platform with the BRZ/86, although the sports car twins may jump ship and be built on Toyota's TNGA platform as opposed to Subaru's SGP.

Best Car also alleges that a performance model smaller than the current WRX—with performance equivalent to the outgoing STI—is also in the works, and will be co-produced by Toyota. It too will reportedly feature AWD and could be based on the new generation of Toyota Yaris. As such, if this hot hatch is real, it may not be sold in the United States as Toyota discontinued the Yaris earlier this year.
Great news guys! Based on my reading comprehension skills I think the EJ25 is definitely going to survive.
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PLEASE... Let sleeping dogs lie.
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NO... it won't matter.
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Old 12-06-2019, 12:34 AM   #72
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Although... if it's a BRZ-sized AWD 6MT coupe, I might EJ... STI 210, anyone? 350 HP?
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TRD sammich
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