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View Poll Results: What day (or days) is best for you in the points league? | |||
Sunday | 27 | 31.03% | |
Monday | 32 | 36.78% | |
Tuesday | 23 | 26.44% | |
Wednesday | 20 | 22.99% | |
Thursday | 13 | 14.94% | |
Friday | 19 | 21.84% | |
Saturday | 34 | 39.08% | |
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll |
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11-06-2012, 08:59 PM | #5401 |
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One thing I'd like to add. Through the race with varrying tire srategies playing out, I ended up behind a few of you. Some decided to give me the position without a fight. I would ask that you dont do this. We are racing, its a race, those passes were for position. Hold me up, make it difficult, etc... Dont be a d!ck but dont just give way. Even if you are on your last legs of the tires and Im on fresh tires, it doesn't matter. Run your race, run your line and let the person behind find a way past.
I just prefer a fight, it may end up with some good races. And if you end up making me make a mistake getting around you, thats racing. Again Im not saying to be brutally blocking, but put up a fight. That being said I had a great race with Wright in the begining and Acey towards the end. Had a lot of fun and it was overall a great race. Props to Griffin as his formula has created the closest racing we've had!
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11-06-2012, 09:13 PM | #5402 | |
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11-06-2012, 11:39 PM | #5403 |
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Well I have started practicing on the new track and wanted to know what time you guys are getting. I have managed to get into the 2:08's but I have been using the fastest tire wear so maybe I could squeeze into the 2:07's with normal wear.
I like the track much more than the last one but there are a few spots that if you come in a little too hot you are screwed because of the camber on the road and can very easily end up in the grass, especially as your tires wear out. I can get about 5 laps out of the tires now, great for testing how the tires wear :-) |
11-06-2012, 11:44 PM | #5404 |
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I've not run anything but Im curious what tire wear mode we will use. I'll work on my setup work with no wear on and then practice tire strategy later.
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11-07-2012, 12:11 AM | #5405 |
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11-07-2012, 03:13 PM | #5406 |
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Zoli. I know I let you by after a pit stop when came up on me. I'd much rather let a car that I have no chance of holding off by and keep focusing on hitting my marks on crap tyres. I tend to get caught up in "oh he's behind me so I gotta hold him off" moments and ruin my race instead of just conceding the position that was gonna be lost anyway lol. I feel that I gotta have some kind of respect for a faster driver lol. I pitted that next lap anyway hahaha. But next time ill try it your way and see what happens lol
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11-07-2012, 05:47 PM | #5407 |
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Well going back to the earlier comments I am going to go against the grain and say no restarts, its racing if you crash get over it, if you are in the pack be careful and give way. I think I have suffered more then most from being spun on the first lap and ending up miles behind, I just get on with it.
Keep it real folks no restart no 2nd chances. Just like.... every real life race |
11-07-2012, 05:51 PM | #5408 | |
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What about if someone gets disconnected with in the first lap or so?? Will that be considered as a DNF or what??? Jiffy |
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11-07-2012, 07:06 PM | #5409 |
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I'm with Wright, although I agree with Subau practicing for a race just to get disconnected is not fun at all.
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11-07-2012, 07:22 PM | #5410 |
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Oh I'm gonna keep practicing online so others can join me as well
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11-07-2012, 07:29 PM | #5411 | ||
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This would have to be a valid reason for restart IMO. Last edited by StiLmtd; 11-07-2012 at 08:52 PM. |
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11-07-2012, 09:02 PM | #5412 | |
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It counts as finishing last but turning up like in a real race and you would gain any penalty or bonus for coming last. Such as ~+8pp in this league or no missed race penalty in others. I think having no-nonsense policy is the only way that there can be no interpretation of the rule. Another reason against a restart is someone may have a great start and go from 5th to first in half a lap only to find out the new guy who only every turns up for one race hit a wall and calls a restart. On the restart you end up 6th at the end of the first lap and never gain position :-(. Last edited by wrightcomputing; 11-07-2012 at 09:09 PM. |
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11-07-2012, 09:29 PM | #5413 |
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May someone please explain the point adjustment concept? Looking at mine, I just can't seems to figure it out.
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11-07-2012, 10:11 PM | #5414 | ||
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I think if the game were to kick you on the first lap, that should be a restart. Like T3 said, practicing all week to get kicked on lap 1 is not good. I'm not against a restart with a HUGE crash in turn 1, but I'm also fine with letting the chips fall as they may. Game disconnects mid race are def engine failure though. It sucks but that's racing. And while were on the topic of "that's racing"....... I'm up for the idea of full race damage where you need to pit for repairs . Think about it, you could have the race leader run away from the field but hit a wall and suddenly end up mid pack. It would def make everyone think twice about playing chicken on corner entry. Quote:
It is adjusted relative to the time gap between you and the guy ahead of you. |
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11-07-2012, 10:42 PM | #5415 |
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What about changing it to an incident involving at least 3 cars? That's 1/4-1/3 of the field most nights. If something that big happens, it was probably pretty serious.
I will say that I think the fact that we're debating about restarts instead of underpowered cars and PP issues is a testament to how well the current system is working. |
11-07-2012, 11:14 PM | #5416 |
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I think 2 or more cars off the track in the first sector works.
Honestly the real problem is that typically the driver in the wrong is often not knocked off track (or damaged) while the 'turn barrier' car is sent into the grass/wall. (Which is also why heavy damage does not work). |
11-08-2012, 07:18 PM | #5417 |
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I don't ask for much, but if y'all feel like it, vote for my buddy Nick Barbato. He's one of the guys that made it to GT Academy.
http://www.nissanusa.com/gtacademyshow/pit-pass/1/5 Kthxbye. --kC |
11-08-2012, 07:51 PM | #5418 | |
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11-08-2012, 08:26 PM | #5419 | |
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I'm not saying its the way to go, but it would be interesting to test. Maybe we could do a exhibition race to see how it would effect the racing. I predict it will change many drivers behaviors and simulate a "balls factor". Lets schedule a exhibition race to try it out. EDIT: just talked to Zoli and he has a genius idea. Instead of doing restarts, we have a "safety car" where the parties involved in the crash regroup with the field and then the race restarts at the start/finish line next lap. This allows the guys who made a awesome start to keep their position, and keeps us from having to exit the game. A full restart would have to happen with a disconnection though. Last edited by LIQUIDSK8S; 11-08-2012 at 08:40 PM. |
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11-08-2012, 08:40 PM | #5420 | |
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11-08-2012, 08:45 PM | #5421 | |
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Also, I edited my post to include Zolis genius idea to the "restart" problem with a safety car. |
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11-08-2012, 08:49 PM | #5422 |
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Hahaha I just had a funny thought. If we use Zolis idea for the safety car in the first lap, Subaru will be praying for first lap incidents so he can get a rolling start
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11-08-2012, 09:13 PM | #5423 |
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I'll add my thoughts in here as well. I suggested the "safety car" idea as an alternative. I think the idea of a no restart rule is a bit harsh, mainly because the majority of people punted on lap 1 have been through no fault of their own. Im relatively ok with not doing a restart but I think it absolutely sucks to get knocked out very early to lose the pack and to do laps for an hour. I'd probably drop out to be honest, and we've seen some guys drop out when they were so far back.
We are doing this for fun, so a little consideration for eachother in the first corner will help. If you punted someone hang back and wait with them. If you got punted, please say something. Staying quiet and not grumbling about it helps no one. That all being said, I think the idea of the safety car may help everyone. Get the field back together and then the leader calls go at the start finish line. As far as the disconect goes, I guess Im the only d!ck here because that is the only situation where I'd say no restart its a DNF. We decided that the disconect was a form of mechanical failure and that we would not assign positions or anything. AND, I'd say dont assume you're getting a restart and drop out before people are agreed to a restart. <cough>liquid<cough> I like most ideas presented. I think the first sector major incident is a good criteria for a race reset. If we do that with a full restart or my safety car idea is up to you guys. To do no restart I think may be a bit harsh. just my 2 cents |
11-08-2012, 09:18 PM | #5424 | |
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Here's a option for the disconnect restart. Which I think should only apply to the first lap. If it happens, that driver starts from the back. This way they didn't practice all week for nothing, but get some punishment for it (not that it's their fault). Last edited by LIQUIDSK8S; 11-08-2012 at 09:26 PM. |
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11-08-2012, 09:46 PM | #5425 |
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I think we may be falling into the same trap that we did with the Mix 'N Match series again. Too many variables starts to mess things up.
I think the idea of a safety car and cautions sounds good, but will only serve to slow races down. It will also take tire strategy out of the equation. Drivers at the back could simply pit then magically have a "caution" come out. That leaves the drivers at the front on old tires and hung out to dry. As far as disconnects go, there is nothing wrong with the current rule that treats it as a mechanical failure. As far as I can remember, we've never had a disconnection at the start of a race. I do agree that if something does happen in the first lap where someone is disconnected, that a restart is justified. With restarts, I think a one sector rule should work. After that point, the race usually calms down. I do think we should be limited to one restart per race though. |
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