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Old 11-15-2021, 05:25 PM   #51
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For me, it's about the the slack that's in neutral. Now I haven't tried everything out there yet - solid front stay bushing, DMW linkage - but it seems impossible to get rid of this slack. I think it's because of the design of the shifter assembly.

Now with this design, I would think it would finally help out with my 1st world problem but based on the one review in here, it doesn't seem to be the case. Am I crazy enough to drop the money and try it out? Sure but it's just not in line with all my other projects at this point.
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Old 11-15-2021, 05:52 PM   #52
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I mean, cool, it's chassis-mounted and adjustable... And?

Who adjusts their shifter more than once after the initial installation/test drive? Do folks actually adjust it for the street, shorten it when you get to the track, then re-adjust it for the drive home...? At some point, you're adjusting in a mechanical advantage that the syncros were never spec'd for.

Hyper-adjustability aside, I've never had an issue shifting the OEM-trans-mounted stock, or OEM short shifters on 5-speeds or 6-speeds. What benefit(s) does chassis-mounting provide? Less shifter wiggle when paired with OEM engine/trans/pitch mounts?

Don't take the above as me trying to bash the product. It seems like an interesting engineering design challenge, and we need fresh blood and innovation in the GD-aftermarket space... But the cost/benefit analysis on this product just doesn't pencil out for me.
I think its pretty cool to be able to adjust it however you want. Preferences change and modularity is awesome. Also the shifter has two mounting points to adjust the actual mechanical throw of the shifter in two separate ways.

It is supposed to provide a better and smoother overall engagement, and prevent miss-shifts from the OEM shifter flexing and moving while cornering. Also it is aimed to stop shifter wobble when in gear, I obviously don't have my unit yet, so I can't verify any of these claims yet,
The car running the DM-1 noted that the install eliminated issues of missing the gears and hitting the gates instead when shifting.

Engineering new stuff costs a lot of money, I don't mind paying more for a product that has features I find interesting.

I anticipate price will come down as they smooth out production. I could wrong though.

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Agreed. I dig the ingenuity and engineering that went into this and would love to have it for my 06. But the price tag is way prohibitive, even for most all out race cars out there. There are equally as effective and 10 times cheaper solutions for the shifter on the market already
I got my preorder in for like ~700 and the DM-1 assembly replaces several OEM bushings. The short shifters + bushing upgrade setups usually costs around ~$200 all said and done. So it wasn't anywhere near 10X the cost of traditional short shifter kit. More like 3.5X. With retail units being more like 5X.

I wouldn't have made the purchase at the retail price of $1,100. Hence my pre-order.

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Old 11-16-2021, 10:56 AM   #53
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For me, it's about the the slack that's in neutral. Now I haven't tried everything out there yet - solid front stay bushing, DMW linkage - but it seems impossible to get rid of this slack. I think it's because of the design of the shifter assembly.

Now with this design, I would think it would finally help out with my 1st world problem but based on the one review in here, it doesn't seem to be the case. Am I crazy enough to drop the money and try it out? Sure but it's just not in line with all my other projects at this point.
I assume you were referencing my review on the shifter. If so, it absolutely reduced the play while in neutral. It feels nice and tight. While that wasn't something I was necessarily looking to fix or was really targeted with the shifter, but it definitely an added benefit
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Old 11-21-2021, 09:46 PM   #54
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Agreed. I dig the ingenuity and engineering that went into this and would love to have it for my 06. But the price tag is way prohibitive, even for most all out race cars out there. There are equally as effective and 10 times cheaper solutions for the shifter on the market already
One thing we'll see is if the cheaper options are as effective.

The price for sure seems like a point of contention. For one thing, I feel like there should be room in this space for a premium option. For two, all other options amount to a metal rod. This is a whole mechanism.

I've run a Kartboy, currently running a TiC Tallboy (Kartboy but taller). Looking forward to seeing how this feels, will share my impressions.
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Old 01-14-2022, 04:27 PM   #55
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Production shifter should be getting in peoples hands soon. Cant wait to hear what other people think of it!
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Old 02-07-2022, 03:51 PM   #56
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I'll have to do a separate post, after driving for a while, but here's my impressions:

Previous setup: 2016 STI with factory short throw, TiC tallboy lever, TiC linkage bushings, Kartboy stay bushings, Raceseng slammer knob. This setup was nice, and I'd put it up against anybody who thought they had a sweet shifting STI. Mild movement in all gears.

Installed production unit yesterday. Yes, its better. In every way that matters it is an order of magnitude better than the above setup. Zero north/south play, light east/west. Throw is much shorter in shortest setting. Reduced gear whine, slightly increased road noise due to removing one of the rubber barriers. Install is no more difficult than installing another shifter and bushings.

Throws are solid, mechanical and pleasant. No rattling or other unwanted noises. I don't think effort increased meaningfully. I did get early bird pricing, but IMO it's worth it at full price. The shifter fits under the boot so it looks like a regular shifter, the only way it looks aftermarket is if you get a colored shaft. Thing is flat out terrific. I'll be around and will update if anything changes.
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Old 02-07-2022, 05:41 PM   #57
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That's a great review. Thanks for that.
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Old 02-25-2022, 02:24 PM   #58
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Just got my shifter in the mail. Ill try to get some pics of the Production unit and get it in the car this weekend. But damn is this thing nice
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Old 02-25-2022, 02:49 PM   #59
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Got mine a few weeks ago, and just got around to installing it. Looks like my lockout was mis-machined and Erik shipped me a replacement

Nothing but good things to say about him and the product/company so far.

Will be making my own post reviewing it on a 6MT GD.

Update: he literally overnighted the part to me... Erik has stellar customer service.

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