Nissan committed to replacing 370Z and GT-R

[Skunkers]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

I read an article that stated the Z and 370Z have the same chassis code.

I don't know if the shortcomings of the 370Z were attributed to the chassis, but if they've improved it enough then people can probably overlook it.

I was initially super hyped for the 370z when announced, but really didn't care for it much on test drive as a prior Z owner. I don't think there was inherently anything wrong with the chassis; the immediate annoyances for me were NVH, bad controls (numb/poor steering response, sloppy shifter), the car felt built to a price and less solid than my prior 300zx which may have been chassis related. But when a modern evolution with a massive overhaul of the platform, switching to electronic rack, different suspension (presumably available adaptive dampers since they are on Q60; although I don't think this initial press junket has mentioned them yet), much better and smoother drivetrain, etc. its difficult to spitball where the feel of this thing will land. I'm cautiously optimistic, but really the wait for me is to see what journalists think of the handling feel.

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[Skunkers]

Edit: Crapsteaks, double post.

[chanomatik]

Thanks. That's basically the feedback I was hoping for, someone who's been into the Z, but kind of fell away. I'm open to $40k for a Japanese muscle car, but it has to be VERY compelling.

That or getting a good deal on a used Supra and spending $12k on the manual conversion. Hmmmm.... Gotta see how that's been working out for others.

Update:
https://eagusa.com/a90-supra-6-speed-conversion/
$15k for the conversion kit, or... $25k for them to convert for you. For that price, I'ma just borrow a buddy's garage and pay him with a bunch of beer and pizza.

ALSO, doesn't include the transmission itself. Sheesh. Toyota needs to just offer a manual for the Supra and watch the money rain down from the skies.

[Pre]

They are talking about doing it chano. I mean BMW offers a manual on the exact same engine.

[Brahmzy]

Exactly. M2C. True M car.

[Blitzkrieg]

Originally Posted by Pre

They are talking about doing it chano. I mean BMW offers a manual on the exact same engine.

I really like the supra, even with the odd sounds made by driving with the windows down. I just prefer a manual in a sports car. I wonder if BMW had a say in keeping the Supra with an auto for the first few years.


BlitZ

[thill]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Because they don't drive or feel like Japanese brand vehicles.

I didn't say anything about hate either, just I didn't want one. I know how they drive and feel, just not interested.

The Supra ECU, steering rack, transmission, and suspension were tuned by Toyota engineers. It drives very different than the Z4 or any other BMW I’ve driven.

[YungBoba]

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg

I wonder if BMW had a say in keeping the Supra with an auto for the first few years.

I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be the case. Toyota probably doesn't mind, either. Offer the Supra in AT only for a few years, then release the MT to drive up demand and hype again. They'll probably get a decent amount of people wanting to trade in their AT Supras in favor of the newly released MT.

[Brahmzy]

LOL @ all the BMW / Supra talk in a Nissan thread..

Goes to show how long it's been since Nissan has had something worth talking about. I hope this Z rocks. It's looking like it will as long as the Performance edition doesn't come in @ $50K street, but it probably will.

[Optimus Prime]

Originally Posted by thill

The Supra ECU, steering rack, transmission, and suspension were tuned by Toyota engineers. It drives very different than the Z4 or any other BMW I’ve driven.

That's like saying you have an original lithograph.

[thill]

Originally Posted by YungBoba

I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be the case. Toyota probably doesn't mind, either. Offer the Supra in AT only for a few years, then release the MT to drive up demand and hype again. They'll probably get a decent amount of people wanting to trade in their AT Supras in favor of the newly released MT.

My understanding is next year will be the last year of the Supra (MY2023). Unless Toyota extends that or something changes I very much doubt you will see a manual. Nissan needs to really convince people cross shopping a Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, etc to buy a Z not really Supra buyers.

[Dex]

Originally Posted by thill

My understanding is next year will be the last year of the Supra (MY2023). Unless Toyota extends that or something changes I very much doubt you will see a manual. Nissan needs to really convince people cross shopping a Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, etc to buy a Z not really Supra buyers.

I think the Supra is very compelling, and if they offered a manual, I would probably consider it over the Z due to the smaller size. But the Z looks really good and has a manual. Hopefully it drivers nice and holds up. Time will tell.

[thill]

Originally Posted by Dex

I think the Supra is very compelling, and if they offered a manual, I would probably consider it over the Z due to the smaller size. But the Z looks really good and has a manual. Hopefully it drivers nice and holds up. Time will tell.

It’s a great formula. RWD, V6 turbo, manual or auto, etc. Nissan has had a lot of recent struggles so it’s nice to see them even offer a sports car.

[murrdogg24]

pretty cool that the manual will come with a carbon driveshaft

[twlai]

good job for nissan to offer 6sp manual, that would be a big reason for me to get this car.
if i settle for an automatic 2seater RWD, i would just skip the Supra and get a C8!

The C8 is as iconic as any other sport car with long list of racing history, this supra is a Bmw

[Pre]

Originally Posted by twlai

good job for nissan to offer 6sp manual, that would be a big reason for me to get this car.
if i settle for an automatic 2seater RWD, i would just skip the Supra and get a C8!

The C8 is as iconic as any other sport car with long list of racing history, this supra is a Bmw

It’s also a fantastic car. The C8 is much more expensive. The Supra really is an outstanding GT car. It’s a manual away from greatness.

[Ultimateone]

Originally Posted by murrdogg24

pretty cool that the manual will come with a carbon driveshaft

I think it has always came carbon

[Skunkers]

Kinda can't wait to see someone put old school rear window louvres on this beast. They've been coming back on some muscle cars in recent years and I am freaking here for it.

I have a problem, I know.

[Pre]

Originally Posted by Skunkers

Kinda can't wait to see someone put old school rear window louvres on this beast. They've been coming back on some muscle cars in recent years and I am freaking here for it.

I have a problem, I know.

Shell out money to ruin rear visibility. Sounds super smart.

[mhoward1]

Originally Posted by Skunkers

Kinda can't wait to see someone put old school rear window louvres on this beast. They've been coming back on some muscle cars in recent years and I am freaking here for it.

I have a problem, I know.

I want to see one with a ducktail spoiler

[Brahmzy]

Originally Posted by Skunkers

Kinda can't wait to see someone put old school rear window louvres on this beast. They've been coming back on some muscle cars in recent years and I am freaking here for it.

I have a problem, I know.

Mullet and missing teeth are required before they'll let you install louvres, FYI.

Originally Posted by mhoward1

I want to see one with a ducktail spoiler

Me too. Something kinda Supra-ish, and, perhaps, even see a Touring-style wing too.

[Blitzkrieg]

Originally Posted by Ultimateone

I think it has always came carbon

Truth, the base 2003 350z came with a carbon driveshaft.

[mhoward1]

So just heard the new Z will start at $39.5. We will see how close that really is.

[Brahmzy]

Wonder what the Performance Edition price delta will be.

[Ultimateone]

In this thread there was a video of the COO stating it would cost around $40k and I'm sure that will be the base model