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Old 01-13-2022, 10:22 AM   #4601
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Im curious why they are pushing orders back. Originally they were supposed to open on Jan 10, now they were pushed to mid Feb. Is there any chance they might be changing spec configurations for USDM (Maybe GT being available in manual). Or would this just be related to the chip shortage, the only reason why im not 100% sure its caused by chips is because people are already anticipating waiting a few months for their car to arrive, what is 1 month difference going to change. This is all obviously pure speculation on my end.
They couldn't even produce SPT cars for the reviewers. They are clearly having supply chain or other issues. They won't complicate their line by adding another transmission to the GT for MY22. Maybe MY23 they will offer a WRX MT Performance package with the Recaro seats and dampers.
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Old 01-13-2022, 10:25 AM   #4602
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They couldn't even produce SPT cars for the reviewers. They are clearly having supply chain or other issues. They won't complicate their line by adding another transmission to the GT for MY22. Maybe MY23 they will offer a WRX MT Performance package with the Recaro seats and dampers.
But if they aren't able to produce SPT (CVT) Transmissions couldn't that leave a possibility for them to sell the GT as a manual. (Again this is all wishful thinking and at this point i'm saying this simply for the discussion)
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Old 01-13-2022, 10:47 AM   #4603
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But if they aren't able to produce SPT (CVT) Transmissions couldn't that leave a possibility for them to sell the GT as a manual. (Again this is all wishful thinking and at this point i'm saying this simply for the discussion)
Well, it depends on what the actual problem is.

If it is related to the CVT, then I guess I see your point, but again, I don't think they could on the fly change transmissions.

The issue could be the dampers. For example, Jeep offers an active suspension and they have been shipping cars without it due to shortages.
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Old 01-13-2022, 12:04 PM   #4604
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Distributors spend money on sales and marketing. What kind of money do you think they spent on S209 branding? Saw a tv spot? radio spot? Web ads? Billboards? Isle of Mann runs? Gymkhana?
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Not S209 branding. STI as a brand. I'm sure it wasn't cheap or they would have done it sooner. Would be interesting to know.
Yes, thanks Justy, that's exactly what I meant.
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Old 01-13-2022, 12:04 PM   #4605
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The point is nobody cares about whether there are or not.

Ugly car benefits from being ugly. I'll take the standard version please. Oh there is no standard version because the brand has gone full Jeep trail rated? FFS.


Perfectly stated.
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Old 01-13-2022, 12:13 PM   #4606
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Its just not enough, i had one (of the 9 Subarus i have owned) 10% power bump is not enough. (Supra 4cly at 255 is the right number)

Are these the same people that sang the praises of the new wrx from the press launch at the $1500 a night spa.


Supra 2.0 dynos closer to ~285.....
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Old 01-13-2022, 12:15 PM   #4607
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I have no idea if the cladding was a cost cutting measure or not but it does not look cheap to me whatsoever. The golf ball texture style is really cool. It works and fits the character of this particular car. I can understand why they went that route. It also has a ton of benefits if you don't mind the looks. I wish my current car had thin cladding around the wheel arches. I already had to pull out a ding above the rear wheel.


Are you Tom Doll? Sounds like something he would opine about. Performance in this segmentis defined as ugly arse golf ball, plastic fender cladding, not clean body (fender) lines....

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Old 01-13-2022, 12:31 PM   #4608
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The CVT's existence is off putting.

Didnít ask you.
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Old 01-13-2022, 12:35 PM   #4609
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Looks like someone has been absent for awhile and missed a whole lot of fun.


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Old 01-13-2022, 12:40 PM   #4610
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Looks like someone has been absent for awhile and missed a whole lot of fun.


Justy maybe you know. When was the last shipment of current gen WRXs? I see them still trickling into dealer inventories.
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Well, it depends on what the actual problem is.

If it is related to the CVT, then I guess I see your point, but again, I don't think they could on the fly change transmissions.

The issue could be the dampers. For example, Jeep offers an active suspension and they have been shipping cars without it due to shortages.
Another example is that Toyota isn't building/shipping Highlander models in Limited trim because the specific audio package that comes with it is affected by the chip shortage.

We wanted the Limited trim for the memory seats as the height disparity between my wife and I means I can't physically get in a vehicle she has driven without first sliding the seat waaaay back; no memory seats means no purchase for us; not to mention we'd have to order anything we buy, which means 1-2 months of waiting for it.
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Old 01-13-2022, 01:07 PM   #4612
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Didnít ask you.
You actually want the automatic?
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Old 01-13-2022, 01:08 PM   #4613
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You actually want the automatic?
Insert: ďso the wife can also drive itĒ excuse.
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Old 01-13-2022, 01:10 PM   #4614
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This thread has been a s-show for awhile now. So sad. This is the first time I haven't liked the "new model." I owned a 2008 for God's sake.

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Another example is that Toyota isn't building/shipping Highlander models in Limited trim because the specific audio package that comes with it is affected by the chip shortage.

We wanted the Limited trim for the memory seats as the height disparity between my wife and I means I can't physically get in a vehicle she has driven without first sliding the seat waaaay back; no memory seats means no purchase for us; not to mention we'd have to order anything we buy, which means 1-2 months of waiting for it.
My wife and I have the same issue if she drives my Crosstrek. The Tesla has "easy entry" so it slides the seat and steering wheel back when she parks, and it also recognizes my key so it changes the profile to me.

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Old 01-13-2022, 01:24 PM   #4616
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You actually want the automatic?
According to car enthusiasts on the internet, "automatics are for disabled drivers and only real men drives manual. All CVTs are **** and should never exist."

I got a manual miata because of that, so my wife divorced me. Perfect
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Old 01-13-2022, 01:29 PM   #4617
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Justy maybe you know. When was the last shipment of current gen WRXs? I see them still trickling into dealer inventories.
I wanna say it was a couple months ago. There can be a number of reasons they may still be trickling in. We had a Forester sit at the rail yard once for soo long(I wanna say it was a month) that when it was finally put on a truck, it was on the same truck as the next model year cars. We never found out why on that particular one; but, I have heard that a car could have damage and is repaired at the port, which could delay it. Or, again, was told a number of factors. Our last one was beginning of December.

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I do.


If the STI doesn't impress enough.......and if it does, hope it has an auto.
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This thread has been a s-show for awhile now. So sad. This is the first time I haven't liked the "new model." I owned a 2008 for God's sake.
I mean, the car is left field polarizing as far as a WRX goes. Not everyone is on board with taking their brand new WRX up to the mountains to bounce off of snags and forging creeks. That might be what the new gen of WRX buyer will want, but current gen and before owners who frequent this dinosaur forum?...

Change takes time? Forums facilitate change? I dunno. Doesn't matter anyway. I don't own nor will ever own a Crosstrek or an Outback, so I'm not Ambassador level accepting. I'm myopic!
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I may be getting carried away now but based on images available and the grey image for the Tokyo auto salon I did a little photoshop of what the "STI Performance" Variant announced tomorrow will look like. I also used the Levorg fenders to render what could have been if the cladding was omitted, as a bonus.

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Lowkey I like it with the cladding more lol
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Old 01-13-2022, 01:57 PM   #4621
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According to car enthusiasts on the internet, "automatics are for disabled drivers and only real men drives manual. All CVTs are **** and should never exist."

I got a manual miata because of that, so my wife divorced me. Perfect
She wasn't The One.

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I do.

If the STI doesn't impress enough.......and if it does, hope it has an auto.
I could understand if it wasn't offered, but if there is a manual option, please don't do it.

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I mean, the car is left field polarizing as far as a WRX goes. Not everyone is on board with taking their brand new WRX up to the mountains to bounce off of snags and forging creeks. That might be what the new gen of WRX buyer will want, but current gen and before owners who frequent this dinosaur forum?...

Change takes time? Forums facilitate change? I dunno. Doesn't matter anyway. I don't own nor will ever own a Crosstrek or an Outback, so I'm not Ambassador level accepting. I'm myopic!
Hahah, agreed, I am not taking a WRX off-road, or near a trail. I've had 2 Crosstreks and they are good for what they do. My father had a '05 Outback XT 5MT, but that's nothing like the 2010+ Outbacks. I am an Ambassador, and I find this new WRX to be off-putting. I will get another STI 6MT before they are extinct.
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Lowkey I like it with the cladding more lol
For a time I rationalized that all the cladding and unpainted plastic was a design choice made to mitigate the ever-slabbier slabness of the car. From sides and rear especially. It was becoming a towering wall of featureless sheetmetal, and this was a Subaru-ey way of addressing it.

But I've seen a lot of pics with the cladding edited out (not to mention actual Levorg pics) that totally invalidate that idea. And not even the pics with like massive aftermarket wheels slammed into the wheel wells. So I just don't know why they did it besides their 100% track record of [car without cladding] + [cladding] = smashing success.
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Old 01-13-2022, 02:10 PM   #4623
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I could understand if it wasn't offered, but if there is a manual option, please don't do it.

Gah. I'm done with sticks. IF there is an option for an auto, unless it's like the original STI auto dropping loads of power(which they'll just not offer one at this point), I'm all over it. If not, and I AM impressed, I'll get the MT. I have owned a MT continuously since I started driving. My DD is a stick. I'm just done. I enjoy driving. I just don't care THAT much about "driving". Shifting is not my enjoyment of the drive. That's why the shift to EV won't bug me. Sure, I enjoy the sound of a good engine; but, meh. My only negative towards EV is range and/or charging times. My mother lives 12 hours away.

If the STI doesn't impress, auto or not, GT will be ordered.
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Since this horse apparently isn't dead...





If they paint that middle strip the yellow arrows are pointing at that forms the sill under the trunk lid, along with the painted arches, I think it could look a lot better. The design of the rear bumper cover is strange. Integrating the top of the diffuser area to create a load lip doesn't visually work. The Levorg doesn't have this issue. It looks good.

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You actually want the automatic?

Iíve been daily driving a manual BRZ for 6 years now, and want paddles now with full range cruise control. So itís a yes from me dawg.
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