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08-26-2019, 06:58 AM | #1251 |
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08-26-2019, 08:23 AM | #1252 |
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The Solarcity purchase was definitely a bailout. I think the solar business problems are a direct consequence of all the manufacturing problems the Model 3 had. It sucked up so many resources that not enough attention was paid to Solarcity. The question is what will happen after the factory in China gets online. Will Tesla devote resources to getting solar going again? It seems like launching the promised products (including solar roof) should take priority over building a factory in Europe.
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08-26-2019, 09:10 AM | #1253 |
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Hybrid ? Plug in Hybrid or all electric battery ?
https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/econo...ntent=featured Death of the Hybrid Vehicle: GM and Volkswagen Say Goodbye GM and Volkswagen pulled the plug on hybrid cars. Ford and Toyota didn't. Only 3% of sales are hybrids. Why bother? With that hard to fault logic, GM and Volkswagen Pull the Plug on Hybrid Vehicles. "If I had a dollar more to invest, would I spend it on a hybrid? Or would I spend it on the answer that we all know is going to happen, and get there faster and better than anybody else?" GM President Mark Reuss said in an interview. GM's view contrasts with other auto-making giants, including Toyota Motor Corp. and Ford Motor Co. which are working on full electrics but also expanding their U.S. hybrid offerings. The differing strategies show a division within the auto industry over what is the best path to full electrification, as manufacturers pivot from their more than century-old reliance on gas-powered vehicles. Last week, Continental AG, one of the world's biggest car-parts makers, said it would cut investment in conventional engine parts because of a faster-than-expected fall in demand-yet another sign the industry is accelerating the shift to electric vehicles. Hybrids, which were popularized by Toyota's Prius last decade as a social statement, accounted for about 3% of U.S. sales in 2018, according to research firm LMC Automotive. Aggressively Chasing the 3% "Social Statement" Crowd David Filipe, Ford's head of powertrain engineering. "We're going to be aggressively chasing this space of hybrids." How can aggressively chasing 3% of the market make any sense? Hybrids never made any sense to begin with. They appealed to yuppies who wanted to make it appear they were doing something for the environment without really doing a damn thing. Car Engine Technology |
08-26-2019, 09:22 AM | #1254 | |
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08-26-2019, 09:51 AM | #1255 |
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and it seems that test cars are running down the Tesla China Gigafactory line. Last edited by juanmedina; 08-26-2019 at 10:09 AM. |
08-26-2019, 10:37 AM | #1256 |
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Taycan is the final nail in the coffin for the only profitable Tesla models (which aren't selling regardless).
China pic is of parts produced in Fremont, shipped there for a dog 'n pony show. The first leg of "production" will be to put together pre-fabbed parts shipped from Fremont. The deal structure in China makes it impossible for it to ever succeed. It's so insane I don't even want to make money from it anymore - just file BK and stop taking advantage of idiots. |
08-26-2019, 10:38 AM | #1257 | |
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08-26-2019, 10:44 AM | #1258 | |
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08-26-2019, 10:56 AM | #1259 |
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Methinks thou doth give it too much credence. Solar is not nor has it ever been a business. The "coachworks" ceased being a business after the model 3 failure bankrupted them/him.
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08-26-2019, 11:07 AM | #1260 | |
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Just go read the China deal - you can't even get past the terms with the Chinese before you realize it is doomed. Last edited by E. Nick; 08-26-2019 at 11:18 AM. Reason: clarity |
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08-26-2019, 11:31 AM | #1261 | |
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08-26-2019, 11:43 AM | #1262 |
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08-26-2019, 11:47 AM | #1263 | |
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Everything .... We are still waiting for Tesla's bankruptcy that you been predicting for years. I am highlighting how blind and uninformed you are. |
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08-26-2019, 12:05 PM | #1264 | |
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08-26-2019, 12:15 PM | #1265 |
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The hateraid is stronger than the koolaid. Stay away from the aids kids.
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08-26-2019, 12:49 PM | #1266 | |
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08-26-2019, 01:14 PM | #1267 | |
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I remember arguing years back with a Teslan who would declare victory when the stock would go up, yet I had no position. It was never the argument, but because he was constantly losing the argument, he'd pretend we were arguing about something else and post that instead. It's idiotic. Facts and logic have largely been replaced by feelings and beliefs, especially during periods of frustration, and the appetite for schadenfreude is greater than ever. Add to that the faceless internet and you get the devolution of rational debate into... Owe my Balls! |
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08-26-2019, 01:16 PM | #1268 |
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weeeeeeeeeeeelllll that is not predicting it in a declarative way technically. He just said they should be doing this. Never said they will be bankrupt by XYZ date.
Just a fly on the wall here.. carry on. |
08-26-2019, 01:47 PM | #1269 |
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Nick is also well aware that Tesla has several options to raise revenue if needed and when he says go bankrupt aka restructure, it doesn't mean tomorrow, next week, next month, this year or next year. Just that if the current trend of business continues, it will drive them to bankruptcy.
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08-26-2019, 01:59 PM | #1270 | |
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I believe this is shown to all Teslans (and Scientologists) at orientation. Sadly, I think they're showing it in schools at this point also. |
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08-26-2019, 02:17 PM | #1271 | |
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08-26-2019, 02:34 PM | #1272 | |
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08-26-2019, 02:56 PM | #1274 |
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Between the liabilities facing Oscar, the sexual harassment suits between Bert and Ernie, and the embezzlement charges facing Cookie Monster, the only thing Kermit is going to get is a pork-scented schmeckel
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08-26-2019, 03:02 PM | #1275 |
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