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Old 08-25-2020, 07:21 AM   #1
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Japanese rival for Volkswagen T-Roc R small performance SUV to bring 186kW turbo engine


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Mazda is set to reveal a power-packed turbocharged petrol version of the Mazda CX-30 small SUV.

According to leaked dealer order guides from Mazda, the North American market will get a Mexican-built Mazda CX-30 2.5 Turbo in late 2020, mimicking the driveline set-up of the Mazda3 Turbo hot hatch.

That means the Subaru XV and Kia Seltos rival will be offered in the US with a 2.5-litre turbo-petrol four-cylinder engine punching out 186kW of power and a muscular 434Nm of torque.

Mazda’s CX-30 Turbo would provide the small SUV range with a sporty hero model loaded with premium equipment and technology.

According to US website CarsDirect, the Mazda CX-30 Turbo will carry-over pretty much everything from the Mazda3 Turbo, including its six-speed auto and all-wheel drive set-up.
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Old 08-25-2020, 09:44 AM   #2
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CX-30 is really nice if you want an AWD automatic Mazda 3 but prefer the more conventional look. The interior is great like the Mazda 3.
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Old 08-25-2020, 10:32 AM   #3
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I would much rather have the turbo CX30 over the turbo 3.. if there were only 2 cars on this planet.

Jokes aside, I think the CX30 will do well in the USA and that's a great thing.
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this is a super intriguing car.
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Old 08-25-2020, 11:26 AM   #5
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Subaru one step behind once again
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250hp, 320tq.

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Subaru had a concept once!!!!
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Old 08-25-2020, 02:04 PM   #8
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Meanwhile, Subaru shoves FB25 into Crosstrek and calls it good .
Mazda has its faults, but, boy, they've been pretty quick to deploy that 2.5T throughout their line-up.
Large vehicle, small vehicle, doesn't matter, it gets the 2.5T. I love it !
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Meanwhile, Subaru shoves FB25 into Crosstrek and calls it good .
Mazda has its faults, but, boy, they've been pretty quick to deploy that 2.5T throughout their line-up.
Large vehicle, small vehicle, doesn't matter, it gets the 2.5T. I love it !
Are you buying it? Me neither.

Yes, enthusiasts like the idea, but we don't buy these Mazdas, nobody does. The masses don't want 250 hp in their CUV or hatchback, and enthusiasts don't want a turbo shoehorned into an econo-lux hatchback with no performance upgrades.

So nobody buys them and Mazda flouders around as usual.
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Are you buying it? Me neither.

Yes, enthusiasts like the idea, but we don't buy these Mazdas, nobody does. The masses don't want 250 hp in their CUV or hatchback, and enthusiasts don't want a turbo shoehorned into an econo-lux hatchback with no performance upgrades.

So nobody buys them and Mazda flouders around as usual.
Ok, so. Subaru does it and succeeds. That's the point.
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Old 08-25-2020, 03:05 PM   #11
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Are you buying it? Me neither.

Yes, enthusiasts like the idea, but we don't buy these Mazdas, nobody does. The masses don't want 250 hp in their CUV or hatchback, and enthusiasts don't want a turbo shoehorned into an econo-lux hatchback with no performance upgrades.

So nobody buys them and Mazda flouders around as usual.
I get what you're saying but I'm not buying Subaru either though. So, maybe I'm in the minority.
It's true I haven't bought Mazda, so far.
However, today and for a while now, I've been more likely to buy a Mazda.
Until I see reviews saying that Mazda3 Turbo handling is subpar, I will assume it's going to be OK even with zero suspension and brake upgrades.
As I said, the base Mazda3 is already pretty good in terms of body control; I don't expect things to fall apart because of the extra power.

As a sidebar, 14 years ago, Subaru shoehorned EJ255 into an 06 Impreza Wagon and they were pretty much ZERO suspension and brake upgrades compared to what was done to the WRX Sedan (wagon spring rates were wimpy, wagon anti-roll bars were wimpy, brakes were wimpy for both sedan and wagon, ....).
And yet, my 06 and 07 Subaru WRX Wagons were the best Subies I have owned to date.
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Old 08-25-2020, 05:52 PM   #12
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I get what you're saying but I'm not buying Subaru either though. So, maybe I'm in the minority.
It's true I haven't bought Mazda, so far.
However, today and for a while now, I've been more likely to buy a Mazda.
Until I see reviews saying that Mazda3 Turbo handling is subpar, I will assume it's going to be OK even with zero suspension and brake upgrades.
As I said, the base Mazda3 is already pretty good in terms of body control; I don't expect things to fall apart because of the extra power.

As a sidebar, 14 years ago, Subaru shoehorned EJ255 into an 06 Impreza Wagon and they were pretty much ZERO suspension and brake upgrades compared to what was done to the WRX Sedan (wagon spring rates were wimpy, wagon anti-roll bars were wimpy, brakes were wimpy for both sedan and wagon, ....).
And yet, my 06 and 07 Subaru WRX Wagons were the best Subies I have owned to date.
Hmm, maybe, i hope it'll sell. I think this CX-30 should sell a lot better than the 3 hatch turbo, cause it's better looking and has the SUV look Americans crave.

If i didn't want a manual I'd certainly consider it.
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Old 08-26-2020, 12:25 PM   #13
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Are you buying it? Me neither.

Yes, enthusiasts like the idea, but we don't buy these Mazdas, nobody does. The masses don't want 250 hp in their CUV or hatchback, and enthusiasts don't want a turbo shoehorned into an econo-lux hatchback with no performance upgrades.

So nobody buys them and Mazda flouders around as usual.
Agreed.. including Miata's.
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Old 08-26-2020, 01:41 PM   #14
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Agreed.. including Miata's.
Here in Cali, there are BRZ/FRS/86 all over the place.
But, there are even MORE Miatas around. Very common sighting.
In fact, Miata outsells BRZ/FRS/86 combined, by a factor of 2 to 1.
Miata 2020/Q2: 2620
BRZ 2020/Q2: 570
86/FR-2 2020/Q2: 645
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Old 08-26-2020, 03:20 PM   #15
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Mazda has such a conundrum. Magazines and internet car guys love them but the masses don't. I don't see them making it into the next decade without being majority purchased by a larger automaker.
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Old 08-26-2020, 03:44 PM   #16
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Mazda has such a conundrum. Magazines and internet car guys love them but the masses don't. I don't see them making it into the next decade without being majority purchased by a larger automaker.
They are the brand I suggest when people want something less vanilla than Toyota, like french vanilla, or vanilla, but with sprinkles!
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Mazda has such a conundrum. Magazines and internet car guys love them but the masses don't. I don't see them making it into the next decade without being majority purchased by a larger automaker.
The last time I went to a Mazda dealership was to look at then new CX-3. And I only went there because I was getting an oil change for the GTI next door.

I've never liked the quality or the packaging of Mazdas. There's always something just a little better to buy. I'm drawn in when they're new and get all giggly because they look so good on the internet, to only never pull the trigger when I see them up close and actually drive one. But I'm admittedly known for being irrational, fickle and mostly dumb when it comes to the cars. I own two VW product. Hello.
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The last time I went to a Mazda dealership was to look at then new CX-3. And I only went there because I was getting an oil change for the GTI next door.

I've never liked the quality or the packaging of Mazdas. There's always something just a little better to buy. I'm drawn in when they're new and get all giggly because they look so good on the internet, to only never pull the trigger when I see them up close and actually drive one. But I'm admittedly known for being irrational, fickle and mostly dumb when it comes to the cars. I own two VW product. Hello.
I'm no better my friend. I own a Dodge and I like it.
Never thought I'd own one, let alone like it this much .
So, I could easily do a Mazda at this point .
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This is where subaru should be at this point with the crosstrek. Sure the faster ones coming but the cx just... has its act together, esp with interior refinement and driving feel

Trying to get the lady, whos after a new xt onyx, to drive the cx30, 5 and golf alltrak and K5 and G70 also. Xt just doesnt sound worth the cash and i know wed both hate that damn screen. Alltrak seems so much better for the money. Anyway......
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Gotta paint match those huge side moldings, just like the folks with bugeyes used to do with the side skirts. Then, it might look good...

NVM, I found a pic of someone that did it :barf:
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The heck is the guy carrying on the roof? At least get a nice looking roof box.
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Or utilize some of the increased cargo space in the rear. 20 bucks says it empty back there.
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Gotta paint match those huge side moldings, just like the folks with bugeyes used to do with the side skirts. Then, it might look good...

NVM, I found a pic of someone that did it :barf:
Thats a render/photoshop. Because shadows.

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Forget hot hatchbacks - the hot crossover is now a thing.

For quite some time, smaller Mazdas were competitive or even class-leading in certain aspects, but they fell short of the competition as the Japanese brand soldiered on with a range of naturally aspirated engines. Well, that's all changed this year.

The superb Mazda 3 Sedan and Hatchback were recently announced with a range-topping 2.5-liter Skyactiv-G turbocharged engine, and now the Mazda CX-30 is the next model in the brand's lineup to benefit from the added firepower of this power plant. This confirms earlier information gleaned from an order guide for the 2021 CX-30. The CX-30 2.5 Turbo produces 250 horsepower and 320 lb-ft of torque, a healthy jump up from the CX-30's 2.5-liter sans turbocharging, which produces just 186 hp and 186 lb-ft.

However, it's worth noting that the new engine makes only 227 hp and 310 lb-ft when running on regular 87 octane gas. Although Mazda has made no performance claims, the new 2.5T should make for rapid acceleration within the relatively compact body of the CX-30. It's just what Mazda needs to fend off the upcoming Hyundai Kona N. The engine is paired with the brand's i-Activ all-wheel-drive system and we expect it to use a six-speed automatic transmission, as in other CX-30s.

The turbocharged engine addresses one of our few criticisms of the otherwise classy CX-30, which looks good, has a premium-feeling cabin, and comes with advanced safety gear such as rear cross-traffic braking and traffic jam assist, with the latter system providing steering assistance to keep the CX-30 in its lane at speeds below 40 mph.

To distinguish the most powerful CX-30 from other trims in the range, it receives 18-inch black aluminum-alloy wheels, gloss black door mirrors, and at the back, larger tailpipes and subtle turbo badging. Inside, there are amenities like an available 12-speaker Bose sound system, while chrome finishes and soft-touch plastics lift the impression of quality.

Although Mazda says that pricing will only be announced in months to come, an early order guide revealed that it will start at a pricey $29,900 before a $1,100 destination charge. That's more expensive than several trims within the larger CX-5 range and is a significant sum for a subcompact crossover. The turbocharged CX-30 will go on sale before the end of the year as a 2021 model.






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Gotta paint match those huge side moldings, just like the folks with bugeyes used to do with the side skirts. Then, it might look good...

NVM, I found a pic of someone that did it :barf:
http://www.superstreetonline.com/fea...k-racing-te37s

Found it looking for something else which confirms, it's a rendering. But, I will say this... I think the CX30, lowered with a decent suspension (with this HP/TQ combo), it could be a really fun car. Mazda has always had driving dynamics down (which might get screwed up if not lowered properly).

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