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Old 04-02-2007, 04:04 PM   #51
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Hey that's me. For you it's different though. Any full setup for an 02-07 WRX wagon will bolt right up to your car since a 2nd gen Legacy has the same pattern as a second gen (02-07) Impreza. I'm not sure what your camber will be like though. Possibly the same.
OK, reading thru the thread I got a bit confused. So STI springs will work, it's just that the struts won't correct?
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:38 PM   #52
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04 sti struts, springs, and tops will bolt right into your car.

The 02-03 and 04+ springs and therefore rear tops and front spring perches are different though. So if you wanted to use 02-03 Impreza springs you'll need to use your stock rear tops and possibly do the washer mod. With 04+ stuff you need the 04+ tops, which have a rubber spring seat built in. I have pictures of most of the different tops in the "top hat compatibility" thread that's linked in one of the suspension stickies.
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:57 PM   #53
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to be honest, this swap is only worth it if you have a sedan. even wrx wagon stuff with stock springs will still give you a saggy looking wagon. if i could go and do it all over again from the start i would have just held out for some BG(wagon) springs and skipped the wrx wagon stuff. the struts are stiffer though, so the struts are an upgrade. sedan's on the other hand... this is an awesome cheap drop/swap for you 2nd gen sedan guys, no saggy issues at all.
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Old 04-02-2007, 05:44 PM   #54
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I have whiteline control springs, which are decent, but I wonder how the STI springs ride. Then I noticed on boxer4racing they have two JDM 03 STI springs. One for street and one for racing.

I guess I also got attracted to the fact that they are STI pink.
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Old 04-02-2007, 05:49 PM   #55
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to be honest, this swap is only worth it if you have a sedan. even wrx wagon stuff with stock springs will still give you a saggy looking wagon. if i could go and do it all over again from the start i would have just held out for some BG(wagon) springs and skipped the wrx wagon stuff. the struts are stiffer though, so the struts are an upgrade. sedan's on the other hand... this is an awesome cheap drop/swap for you 2nd gen sedan guys, no saggy issues at all.
Well, I'm going to try it regardless, because my wagon is about 200lbs lighter than yours

I guess I could always use my Legacy springs...
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Old 04-02-2007, 06:04 PM   #56
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to be honest, this swap is only worth it if you have a sedan. even wrx wagon stuff with stock springs will still give you a saggy looking wagon. if i could go and do it all over again from the start i would have just held out for some BG(wagon) springs and skipped the wrx wagon stuff. the struts are stiffer though, so the struts are an upgrade. sedan's on the other hand... this is an awesome cheap drop/swap for you 2nd gen sedan guys, no saggy issues at all.
Seconded. GR2s with wagon-specific Whiteline control springs cost a bit more but will be a way better setup.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:06 PM   #57
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Hate to beat a dead horse here, but my head is spinning reading this thread. So from what has been posted, I can install a complete 04 Sti suspension without any mods, pure bolt-on, correct? Also, the issues I will face are a saggy rear and camber that's way off, but can be remedied with camber bolts. Btw, I have a 97 LGT Wagon (BG?). Please advise.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:50 PM   #58
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:37 PM   #59
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Hate to beat a dead horse here, but my head is spinning reading this thread. So from what has been posted, I can install a complete 04 Sti suspension without any mods, pure bolt-on, correct? Also, the issues I will face are a saggy rear and camber that's way off, but can be remedied with camber bolts. Btw, I have a 97 LGT Wagon (BG?). Please advise.
Yes it will bolt in directly. You will have a saggy rear end, and you will have a degree less negative camber. You should really find something legacy wagon specific.

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Old 04-17-2007, 07:14 PM   #60
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I'm not too worried about camber since there are bolts available to remedy that. The saggy rear is what I don't want. The other alternative is to get GR-2 struts, but not sure what springs to get. Eibach is too low and H&R too harsh. Should I stick to stock springs?
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:02 PM   #61
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as far as I know, whiteline is the only company that makes legacy wagon specific springs. I'd go with them. You could use either GR2s or AGX adjustables. Also, the STi stuff is pretty stiff and can get uncomfortable after awhile on rough roads.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:58 PM   #62
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as the writer of this FAQ I will never put another impreza suspension on my legacy wagon. sedans are cool but never again. unless... you buy some front camber plates which will lower the fronts to even out the sag.

OR.....

sell that sti stuff and get some GR-2's + ground control coilovers. total cost $650!!! and the plus side is when you call GC you can tell them what car you have and they can match your spring rates. if I had to do it all over again this is the route that i would go.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:33 PM   #63
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I have a 98 GT wagon with GR2s + Whiteline Control springs and the combo has been great. I recommend it.

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Old 04-17-2007, 10:45 PM   #64
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I have a 98 GT wagon with GR2s + Whiteline Control springs and the combo has been great. I recommend it.

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How much lower does you car sit with the whitelines?
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:48 PM   #65
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as the writer of this FAQ I will never put another impreza suspension on my legacy wagon. sedans are cool but never again. unless... you buy some front camber plates which will lower the fronts to even out the sag.

OR.....

sell that sti stuff and get some GR-2's + ground control coilovers. total cost $650!!! and the plus side is when you call GC you can tell them what car you have and they can match your spring rates. if I had to do it all over again this is the route that i would go.
GC springs are an interesting idea. would prefer a progressive spring setup, but if they can match the rates then that is the right way to go. Do I have a choice of spring hieghts or are these coilovers?
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:04 AM   #66
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How much lower does you car sit with the whitelines?
Not sure exactly. Probably around an inch. Most people don't even notice/now it is lowered.

My old PC crashed a few months ago and so went my pics...

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Old 04-18-2007, 12:23 AM   #67
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Highly recommend the '02 Stock WRX springs and '02 WRX GR2's combination. The ride is stiff, but not harsh. I only have rubbing issues with a 205/55/zr16 tire in the back with a trunk full of crap and a back seat with passengers at the same time. The car's a '95 Legacy LSi Sedan.
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:16 PM   #68
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again the wrx sedan stuff works great. its only when you try and take the wagon stuff and put it on a legacy wagon that you start to have issues.
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:33 PM   #69
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Everyone also seems to ignore the camber problems. With 0ish camber a Subaru is not going to corner well. I'm using six cammed bolts (double oem bolts up front and ingalls in the rear) to get a decent alignment, and I still wish I had more front negative camber (and should have just slotted my front struts).
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:27 PM   #70
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This is semi-off topic, but I didn't want to start a new thread for it...

Do Impreza 93+ front swaybar endlinks work on a BE Legacy?
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Old 04-23-2007, 03:00 PM   #71
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Pic of lowered wagon with AGX's and GC8 H&R springs:




Pic of lowered wagon with AGX's and GC8 H&R springs (Front) and OEM WRX wagon springs (Rear)




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Old 04-23-2007, 04:41 PM   #72
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thats almost the exact same setup i wound up with. you'll find that on hard cornering your back end will have a kinda floating feeling due to the softer rear springs. but the other 90***37; of the time its fine. man, if that car was green we'd have twins.
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:43 PM   #73
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Everyone also seems to ignore the camber problems. With 0ish camber a Subaru is not going to corner well. I'm using six cammed bolts (double oem bolts up front and ingalls in the rear) to get a decent alignment, and I still wish I had more front negative camber (and should have just slotted my front struts).
the camber thing is weird. i just have some camber bolts in the rear and its always been able to get set to spec.
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Old 04-24-2007, 11:17 AM   #74
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Ok, I'm a little confused atm....it all seemed so simple to start with.

I have a 99ob and I have struts from a 02 WRX

Can I use the wrx struts with the OB springs and top hats as a combination?
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^ yes, that will fit, 12Volt
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