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Old 01-31-2015, 12:44 AM   #76
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Au contraire, mon ami.
The pinion valve can be swapped out (best price, $251 online).
You just need P/N 34113FG020 & a P/N 34192AG010 O ring.
Just drop the rack, swap out the valve & O-ring, and bleed the entire system.
And from my recent experience, I would stick with Subaru PS fluid.

*EDIT: Have ther dealership check your VIN for the correct P/N. I found 4 different P/N's (supposedly) applicable to my '09 WRX:
34113FG0109L
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34113FG060
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Old 01-31-2015, 08:43 AM   #77
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The pinion valve seal is replaceable. Requires a hydraulic press for the job. Don't know how long it would last though. There has been some speculation that the seal it self isn't the problem.
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Old 02-11-2015, 06:52 PM   #78
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I just replaced the pinion valve today. Not hard, just a bit time-consuming.
To drop the steering rack, you'll need to disconnect the power steering lines on the passenger side. You'll need either 14mm & 17mm stubby open-end wrenches or crowsfeet to get a good bite on em.
And try really hard not to move the steering wheel off center while the rack is disconnected. I think mine is off by a spline or two & it's flagging my traction control system.
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Old 03-24-2015, 02:48 PM   #79
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Same here 09 sti 61k on it steering rack leak. Dealer wants 1200. Just need to find a good deal and figure out how to do it myself.
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Old 04-02-2015, 11:07 PM   #80
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I think I am having this issue as well on my 09 WRX. Dealer mentioned it when I had them do my firewall (for FREE!), but I thought it might be bull****. Then just the other morning my car creaked the first few times I turned the wheel, and then stopped. Same thing this morning. Turns out my PS Fluid was super low. Likely due to the leak. The dealer quoted me $1000, which I do not want to pay.

I got this car in October, and it is fun to drive, but man are these stupid little issues a huge money suck. Makes me want a different car for sure.
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Old 05-06-2015, 05:23 PM   #81
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09 WRX with 100k, checking in. Put her up on the lift last week, and found it's leaking out the top of the pinion. I'm going to attempt to replace just the seal.
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Old 05-11-2015, 04:17 PM   #82
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10 WRX with 49k.. leaking a good amount. just bought it about 2 weeks ago.. told the dealership about it (theyre about 2 hours away). have to top it off every 3 days or so. going in to subaru tonight. I'm gonna let them give me my estimate. place i bought it said they'd pay the bill depending the cost. so we'll see how that all goes.
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Old 05-11-2015, 09:47 PM   #83
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I think I am having this issue as well on my 09 WRX. Dealer mentioned it when I had them do my firewall (for FREE!), but I thought it might be bull****. Then just the other morning my car creaked the first few times I turned the wheel, and then stopped. Same thing this morning. Turns out my PS Fluid was super low. Likely due to the leak. The dealer quoted me $1000, which I do not want to pay.

I got this car in October, and it is fun to drive, but man are these stupid little issues a huge money suck. Makes me want a different car for sure.
$1000 is legitimate.
My car had the steering rack replaced. The part alone cost nearly $700. Not to mention the fluid and labor.
It looks really nice when changing the oil though, all shiny compared to the rusted control arms lol.
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Old 05-12-2015, 11:30 AM   #84
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$1000 is legitimate.
My car had the steering rack replaced. The part alone cost nearly $700. Not to mention the fluid and labor.
It looks really nice when changing the oil though, all shiny compared to the rusted control arms lol.
Guys, there's no reason to replace a perfectly serviceable steering rack when the pinion valve seal is the problem. It's under $300 for the pinion valve if you shop around. Buy the pinion yourself & have a reputable mechanic swap it out if you're not comfortable doing it yourself. It really is pretty easy to swap out:

- Disconnect tie rods from front steering knuckle
- Drop front subframe brace
- Disconnect rack from steering shaft U joint & loosen rack mount bolts
- Disconnect power steering lines on passenger side (need stubbies or crow's feet)
- Pull rack mount bolts & drop rack
- Swap out pinion valve & O ring
- Reinstall rack
- Bleed power steering system
- Enjoy saving over $700
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Old 05-18-2015, 01:10 PM   #85
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Hello folks,

08 WRX sedan, 117K miles. My PS fluid has begun suddenly disappearing overnight after an 8 hour drive to Yosemite with some aggressive driving at the end. It falls below the min line every night with no puddle on the ground, and I suspect it is this leaking valve.

So now I must determine how to fix it. kingsalami and others, why would you replace a poorly-designed pinion valve with another OE poorly-designed valve that is prone to failure after 50K miles? I definitely want a cheap solution if possible but I don't want to have to do this again.

Thanks

p.s. - looks like there is a Seal kit (34190B) for cheaper than replacing the whole valve assy? Is it these seals that fail or the whole valve that causes the leak?

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Old 05-18-2015, 05:32 PM   #86
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Hello folks,
So now I must determine how to fix it. kingsalami and others, why would you replace a poorly-designed pinion valve with another OE poorly-designed valve that is prone to failure after 50K miles? I definitely want a cheap solution if possible but I don't want to have to do this again.

Thanks

p.s. - looks like there is a Seal kit (34190B) for cheaper than replacing the whole valve assy? Is it these seals that fail or the whole valve that causes the leak?
To answer your first question - there aren't a whole lot of options available besides replacing the OEM part with a replacement OEM part. If you're mechanically-inclined, you may try to source a different type of seal. But trying to use non-OEM parts can often lead to other issues. And pulling the rack takes a few hours - your biggest investment is in the time to swap it out. If your non-OEM "fix" doesn't work, the rack's gotta come back out. I wouldn't chance it.

OEM seal replacement - unless you have a hydro press & feel pretty confident in your ability to install a new seal, I would just replace the entire valve since it's already out.
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Old 05-18-2015, 05:38 PM   #87
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To answer your first question - there aren't a whole lot of options available besides replacing the OEM part with a replacement OEM part. If you're mechanically-inclined, you may try to source a different type of seal. But trying to use non-OEM parts can often lead to other issues. And pulling the rack takes a few hours - your biggest investment is in the time to swap it out. If your non-OEM "fix" doesn't work, the rack's gotta come back out. I wouldn't chance it.

OEM seal replacement - unless you have a hydro press & feel pretty confident in your ability to install a new seal, I would just replace the entire valve since it's already out.
Thanks salami. So far, it seems to me the best bet is simply replace the rack with the ebay one from Detroit axle that has the lifetime warranty. $190 is less than $250 for the valve, plus the warranty -

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Now I'm not too familiar with the process involved with remanufacturing these things - but if you can get a working rack+valve+warranty for less money... why not?

EDIT: also salami - where did you find the valve for $251? The lowest I see is Kearny Mesa Subaru for 261, but after tax and shipping it is well over $300 :O

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Old 05-18-2015, 10:06 PM   #88
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I forget where I bought mine. I just Googled the part number.
If you haven't done so already, swap out your steering rack bushings with a set of Energy Suspension ones when you're in there. It really tightens up your steering response.

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Old 06-26-2015, 03:37 PM   #89
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Looks like this is a problem with WRX's and STI's. My 2009 WRX started leaking power steering fluid a couple of months ago (at almost 70K miles). Had the lines replaced and was OK until a week or so ago. Noticed more fluid leaking so took it to the dealership yesterday. I was told the power steering rack needs to be replaced ($1200). Now the car is at the dealership and may not be ready until Monday. That's pretty crappy.
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Old 06-26-2015, 03:42 PM   #90
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I just bought a remanufactured rack with a lifetime warranty from Detroit Axle in Michigan for $200 shipped. And I get $20 for my old one.
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Old 06-26-2015, 05:06 PM   #91
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I just bought a remanufactured rack with a lifetime warranty from Detroit Axle in Michigan for $200 shipped. And I get $20 for my old one.
This seems to be the cheapest, easiest solution. The lifetime warranty (from a reputable company) is a definite plus, too.
Just gotta factor in a front end alignment (around $50 - $60) when you're done unless you know how to check your toe measurements using a DIY method.

If you're swapping out your rack, don't forget to count the number of threads on each tie rod before you screw the rod ends off. This will allow you to get your toe fairly close when you install the new rack. Nothing chews up tires faster than excessive toe-in/toe-out.
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Old 06-26-2015, 05:13 PM   #92
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Yeah I should be able to get it pretty close. I'll be getting an alignment after the initial motor break in lol. Engine has been out of it for months so I figured doing the rack would be easier before I put it back in.
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Old 07-26-2015, 03:09 PM   #93
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I just found my steering rack leaking.... I have a 2013 Wrx w/ 70k miles.
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Old 08-05-2015, 12:29 PM   #94
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So far so good with my ebay detroit axle brand rack and pinion
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Old 09-23-2015, 12:21 PM   #95
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yup, 70k. pinion valve leak of death. I have extended warranty so we will see what they say....
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Old 09-23-2015, 02:59 PM   #96
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UPDATE: SOA is replacing the rack under warranty and also doing the alignment at no charge. I don't have to pay a dime.
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Old 10-15-2015, 04:03 PM   #97
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Anyone have a reputable steering rack rebuilder in the GTA? Looking for a rack with lifetime warranty.
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Old 10-15-2015, 04:06 PM   #98
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I got mine from Detroit Axle through EBay. $200 with lifetime warranty.
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Old 10-15-2015, 04:09 PM   #99
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That's pretty good. Detroit Axle and A1 Cardone seem to be the 2.

2010 STi SE about 55k Miles and leaking. Squealing last winter on startups...

Unless I can get a good price on a 2015 rack, I'll take one from Detroit Axle or A1 Cardone. Thanks.
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Old 10-15-2015, 05:42 PM   #100
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I wanted a 2015 rack but I was in the middle of my motor build and didn't have the funds.
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