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10-13-2012, 01:00 PM | #1 |
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1st time at the track opinions!!
So I went to the track last night for the first time. I've owned my wrx for the past 2 years and never really launched it hard until last night.
I'll try to break it down as simple as I can. For me things are just not adding up. My car: 02 wrx, stock ej20 and tranny. Mods: Blouch 16G-XT E85 DW 850cc injectors Perrin inlet AEM intake Sti TMIC Turboback exhaust Uppipe Hybrid boost control setup -Protuned 60FT: 2.15 1/4 mile ET: 14.2 Trap speed:102 I was racing with almost a full tank of gas. Don't know how much of a difference that was and the car was still slightly heatsoaked from the drive to the track. Does my trap speed seem kind of right? Can anyone give some insight on how to improve times and maybe what I should be running? Even for my first time I was expecting at least like mid 13's. I'm almost tempted to throw on a fmic or something else just to get less heatsoak and add a bit more power. Anyways I'm a bit dissapointed overall. I expected a lot better. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Thanks. -natty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WK_r...ature=youtu.be Last edited by nattywrx; 10-14-2012 at 06:02 PM. |
10-13-2012, 01:05 PM | #2 |
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Get that 60ft time down and it will run mid 13s.
Are you using any kind of launch control? |
10-13-2012, 01:06 PM | #3 |
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10-13-2012, 01:11 PM | #4 |
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1.8 would be a decent 60'. You should be in the 12s trapping over 105mph. Are you letting off through the traps? The track calculates trap speed a little bit after the finish line. Is this in Bradenton?
Next time buy a bag of ice and plop it on a towel over your intercooler. Let the car sit in the pits for at least 30 minutes like this. |
10-13-2012, 01:25 PM | #5 | |
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No this was not in bradenton although I will be there racing in about 3 weeks for the euro event fixxfest. I was running at palm beach international in jupiter also known as moroso. I'm thinking about going out wednesday and giving it another shot. Last night there were way too many cars there since there was a big event going on. Usually wednesdays theres no one out there and I can stay focused and calm. |
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10-13-2012, 01:32 PM | #6 |
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what rpm are you trying to get off the line at? also how are you launching, are you dropping the clutch or slipping?
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10-13-2012, 01:33 PM | #7 |
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I never saw much of a difference icing the intercooler when I had a TMIC. Get the 60' down and you will run where you want.
back in the days before I had LC I was blipping the throttle and cutting 1.7s pretty consistently in a stockish STi so it can be done. |
10-13-2012, 07:07 PM | #8 |
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Seems like there may be something wrong with your car.
I have a client with a bug eye w/ 16G and on E85 he makes 370hp (dynojet). 370hp should trap about 116 -/+ 1. Your car is trapping only 102. Thats what a stock STI traps. You should be making at least 330-350hp and should be trapping 110+, regardless of ET. |
10-13-2012, 08:32 PM | #9 | |
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10-13-2012, 08:47 PM | #10 | |
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10-14-2012, 01:20 AM | #11 | |
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You should be shooting for upper 12s and in the 105-108 mph area. I ran a 16g on my 05 for a while, and with low 1.8 short times and cooler weather would run 12.6-12.8s in the 107-108 mph area. I never had launch control back then and would launch blipping the throttle between 5 and 6k slipping a hair and letting loose. I also had the rev limiter lifted a tad and shifted at 7200 in every gear and shifted as close to a flat foot shift as I could w/o actually doing it. I'd say go back and try some more before you start looking into problems. My car ran the above times with 266/233 whp/wtq on a low reader dynodynamics which was approximately 310whp on a known high reading dynojet. keep us posted and good luck Trey |
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10-14-2012, 12:34 PM | #12 | |
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I feel next time at the track I will do a lot better. Thanks guys. |
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10-14-2012, 01:56 PM | #13 | |
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And something is definitely wrong with the OPs car. With a 16G and E85, he should be trapping at least 110+, at the very minimum. |
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10-14-2012, 02:26 PM | #14 | |
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I was trapping 103, 100, 99, and times varying from 16.1 to 15.7 to 14.7 to 14.1 which was my best time with a 60 foot of like 2.2ish or so. I know i can do better. |
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10-14-2012, 02:34 PM | #15 | |
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I would do a boost leak test, comp test and check a couple logs. This car seem way down on power. |
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10-14-2012, 03:27 PM | #16 | |
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I think the car is fine to be honest. Feels about the same as when I got tuned and everything was solid then. |
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10-14-2012, 07:03 PM | #17 | |
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i would not write off that its not all driver if you watch the video he shifts very slow ...i can't see how that would not hurt you by a couple mph |
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10-14-2012, 03:28 PM | #18 |
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I pretty much like missed 2nd gear sinc i waited so long to shift into 2nd and that will definitely reflect trap speed.
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10-14-2012, 05:17 PM | #19 |
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I'm going to upload the video
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10-14-2012, 05:37 PM | #20 |
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Last edited by nattywrx; 10-14-2012 at 06:02 PM. |
10-14-2012, 05:37 PM | #21 |
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uploaded the video
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10-14-2012, 07:46 PM | #22 |
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Lol...I'm an idiot, missed the e85 part. I still stand by the idea of having some more time under the belt before calling "problems" Go back and beat on it a little harder, faster shifts will make huge improvements.
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10-14-2012, 08:21 PM | #23 | |
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10-14-2012, 11:22 PM | #24 |
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Natty,
do you have a wideband? if so what was teh afr at wot? do you have a cable to pull LV? or are you on an AP? Another thing that comes into play alot at the track are the intake air temps and teh timing compensation associated with them. If you get up to 140* the ecu pulls 8*.....which is a large amount of power. |
10-14-2012, 11:53 PM | #25 | |
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I do have a wideband. Tomorrow morning I'll take a look at my WOT A/F's |
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