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02-19-2020, 09:58 AM | #926 | |
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That rendering is "refreshed" that same rendering has been released before the exhaust tips and the flat rear design I recall very clearly....it may or may not have had the large wheel and brakes back then when it was released the first time. But I agree...its most likely not the next STI. These are exciting times in the auto industry for sure! The fastest cars in history are being produced, safety and technology are innovating at an INCREDIBLY fast pace, and the birth of the mass produced electric model line up is happening NOW!!! Just amazing.
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02-19-2020, 10:07 AM | #927 |
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An electric Subaru is going to be totally disinteresting. It will be a mediocre car with a mediocre interior and an electric motor for each wheel. Telsa has been doing that for a while now.
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02-19-2020, 10:18 AM | #928 |
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That's where the industry is headed though, the only real differences will be the badge, exterior styling (to a point), interior styling/layout and user interface (both physical and graphical).
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02-19-2020, 10:18 AM | #929 | |
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Quad motor would be really interesting because you could do unlimited torque vectoring and really trick stability control. Would also help with launch control because you could give each wheel the EXACT maximum power that can be put down. The reason it hasn't been done yet is weight, cost, and complexity. The issue with Subarus and EVs is that a good EV requires a dedicated EV platform. They are still likely several years away from having one. Stuffing some batteries in an existing platform ALWAYS results in a lackluster also-ran of an EV because an EV chassis needs to be designed from the ground up to optimize battery and electric motor packaging. |
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02-19-2020, 10:21 AM | #930 | |
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"Cheap, fast, attractive: pick two" comes to mind. At least ugly and practical aren't mutually exclusive. |
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02-19-2020, 11:10 AM | #931 | |
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Subaru has lost a lot of their old who-gives-a-damn independent streak in the last 15 years, but I'm glad some if it is still there, and I'm looking forward to the look of the new WRX/STI if it continues that trend. Let's look at it this way: if the car is so good that the only thing the magazines have to complain about is the looks--and you know they will, because "criticize styling" is on their checklist for every Subaru review they write--I'll consider that a win |
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02-19-2020, 11:29 AM | #932 | |
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02-19-2020, 12:00 PM | #933 | |
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I have never owned an STI sedan with The Big Wing. This might be why it could be acceptable to me today - hasn't been checked off the list so to speak. Though I would definitely go with a more stealth/low-key color than WRB. |
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02-19-2020, 12:01 PM | #934 | |
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They are only going to commit the Camaro, Corvette, and Silverado in RHD configuration in Australia and New Zealand under a GM Specialty Vehicle brand. They will be keeping services and parts going for 10 years for Holden vehicles. They do plan on offering the Corvette in RHD for Japan. They want to focus on investing in EV's and autonomous tech but there have been no indications that they will offer future EV's in those markets that they exit. |
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02-19-2020, 12:11 PM | #935 | |
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The one design that most people love is the GC design (2.5RS, WRX, 22B), but when you actually look at it, it looked like most things coming out of Japan at the time, except for a hood scoop, some hood vents, and large fog lights. |
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02-19-2020, 12:21 PM | #936 | |
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If people comment on some aspect of my car's looks, it's the huge fluorescent chartreuse brake calipers. Pretty bold choice Subaru made with that color. |
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02-19-2020, 12:31 PM | #937 | |
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02-19-2020, 12:39 PM | #938 | |
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02-19-2020, 12:41 PM | #939 | |
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The color seemed a bit much to me when I first saw it, but it has grown on me. Helps that my car is silver. Silver goes with just about anything (including hideous NY plates) but I can see those calipers clashing with some colors. If the renders are to be trusted--and I'm not saying they are, but if--it seems the loud calipers might be sticking around. |
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02-19-2020, 12:51 PM | #940 | |
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02-19-2020, 02:33 PM | #941 | |
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2021 WRX Info
Not sure if you guys saw this, but I believe this to be legitimate site with actual new information regarding 2021 WRX.
Subaru Announces Tentative 2020-MY Order Cutoff Dates, and 2021 Order Acceptance Dates Here is the most relevant tidbit: Quote:
Do you think the delay a good sign that we are getting a new car? |
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02-19-2020, 02:41 PM | #942 | |
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If they were simply carrying it over for yet another year, it would undoubtedly be announced late summer or early fall. We learned about the 2020 back in August. Must be they needed a little extra time and Would. Not. Tolerate. Pushing. It. Another. Year. Amusingly, this is the first time in ages I've heard of a given year's model actually being released in that year, not months earlier. I take this as a solid indication that it will be significantly updated. (Now, if there could just be some news on what the next car will actually be!) |
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02-19-2020, 02:55 PM | #943 | |
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02-19-2020, 02:59 PM | #944 | |
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If so, that's really late, but maybe with good reason... |
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02-19-2020, 03:19 PM | #945 | |
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I can't recall how it played out back in 2013/2014, but I know there were last gen WRX/STI on sale as 2014 MY into late 2013, paving the way for the VA to be labeled a MY2015 when it went on sale in April 14. It never sat right with me that my car was built in wee-early 2014 but was labeled a 2015 MY Edit - I found this. 2014's were orderable in 2013 up to some point before October 2013. When this article was published the cutoff was already crossed. https://www.automotive-fleet.com/114...start-up-dates Last edited by fredzy; 02-19-2020 at 03:31 PM. |
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02-19-2020, 03:30 PM | #946 | |
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Yeah, the year-labeling scheme gets a bit wonky and arbitrary when they're calling a car from early 2014 a 2015. Like people who mysteriously turn 29 the year after they turned 29. If all of this is true, there'll have to be something at some upcoming auto show ... then some chance for journalists to drive it months before it's available to the public ... we must be really close to some kind of announcement. I'm not one to overhype things like this, but c'mon, the clock is ticking. |
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02-19-2020, 03:43 PM | #947 | |
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So we can expect to see something misleadingly awesome at NYIAS in April coming up here, followed by the gut-wrenching, sobering disappointment of reality in late November. For me, the primary source of disappointment will be the almost gaslighting-like ability of SOA to avoid acknowledging the existence of Levorg in any way. |
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02-19-2020, 04:02 PM | #948 | |
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At this rate the new STi will be an Ascent. |
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02-19-2020, 04:07 PM | #949 | |
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I don't know if the misdirection from custom platform to Impreza-based car was intentional on their part, or if it was simply a reflection of changing financial realities. But whether intentional or not, it was genius in a way. The custom-platform thing generated lots of buzz and headlines, but when the actual Impreza-based beast emerged, it still won people over with its capabilities, and the pedestrian underpinnings were largely forgiven. I remember lots of positive reviews, including the STI beating a BMW and a Mercedes in a comparo. It's weird to think of that now, as harsh as the press has been on the STI these last couple years. So, yes, prepare for the same rollercoaster ride over the next year. Any early leaked images should definitely be taken with a grain of salt. I don't care about that so much as what the underlying mechanicals are going to be, and the conflicting rumors have made that anybody's guess. |
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02-19-2020, 04:27 PM | #950 | |
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Would sell better, unfortunately
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People savaged Subaru because of that concept, but almost every styling cue it featured made it to production in one way or another except the form factor. I don't think they will do that kind of concept again honestly - you could say we received them already with the Viziv's. But then what will they show early this year? Anything? It seems too soon for the almost-production "prototype" like the Levorg in October. Maybe they'll split the difference and debut the WRX Prototype in Detroit this summer. |
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