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12-02-2016, 04:49 PM | #2801 |
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Location: IAG Performance
Vehicle:2012 WRX GD Race Car |
A few more pics from the last event at Summit Point.
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12-07-2016, 03:43 PM | #2802 |
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Vehicle:2005 STi CGM |
Dang that Shifter! I am looking forward to your review. I tried various lengths of extensions from a vendor on here, although they are nice pieces and put the knob in a great place, there was waay too much leverage which resulted in slop. 2-3 I would grab 5th, 5-4 I would grab 6th, annoying as hell. I finally found a length and weight of extension that works well but these CAE's look like they work the nuts!
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12-07-2016, 10:06 PM | #2803 |
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Vehicle:2006 STI / 2010 FXT Aspen White / Silver |
Its released just the US distributor needs to figure out a price. Then its a waiting game again. Been siting back waiting for a while myself hopefully they are ready to take our money soon.
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12-08-2016, 08:13 AM | #2804 | |
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On another note: Lengths of levers do not inherently cause slop or vagueness in gear selection. With increased lengths there is a multiplication factor or amplification of tolerances, or wear, or "slop" in the mechanism which result in vagueness in searching for the desired gear. This isn't acceptable for us racers. Components must be made and sized more precisely to reduce the vagueness. Thus, wanting to position the shift knob higher means you don't want to add a long screw-on extension. This is the wrong way to accomplish it. That defeats the purpose of a short-throw shifter. You must move the axis point up (and maintain a similar ratio). Other factors are linkage weight and inertia that might make the shifting feel different or overpower the springs and detents of the stock mechanism. A long, heavy shift lever and/or shift knob (combined with wear and/or weak springs) might cause the transmission to pop out of gear. A tall, slender, light lever might be easily flexed or bent during fast, hard shifts! I've seen it happen. |
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12-08-2016, 09:16 PM | #2805 | |
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Vehicle:2005 MPS Wagon HTA35 Domtuned Stage $$$$$ |
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This shows pricing? |
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12-08-2016, 09:35 PM | #2806 |
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jeebus , 12hundo for a street car shifter
that mudderfugger better be , well......... I don't know , but it better be waits for review |
12-09-2016, 10:40 AM | #2807 | |
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12-09-2016, 10:55 AM | #2808 |
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12-09-2016, 06:07 PM | #2809 |
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Vehicle:2012 WRX GD Race Car |
They are available to order now but they're a special order item so 3-6 weeks. They'll have to do the custom longer rod for me but I'm hoping that won't add time to the wait.
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12-10-2016, 07:45 AM | #2810 |
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I wish that was a bit cheaper, im guessing alot of the pricing is recouping r&d and adjusted for anticipated volume. Sadly im just going to salivate over pictures and video's of other people cars and continue to make due with the oem unit
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12-10-2016, 09:19 AM | #2811 | |
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I see where late model, genuine Subie, short-throw shifters cost about $250. If Hard Motorsports were to charge twice that I would be first to buy. They need exposure if they want to sell them. What about my '08? All I see is: "CAE Ultra Shifter - Subaru WRX STI 2002-2005 6-speed- $1,210.00" I actually have a '06 JDM TY856WB7KA in it now. I can only assume the mounting/hole is slightly different in my '08 Vs '05's. |
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12-10-2016, 09:46 AM | #2812 |
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I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding you, or you me, but I completly agree with recouping cost and making a profit. For me the shifter is little out of my budget right now.
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12-12-2016, 02:10 PM | #2813 |
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This is why the customer doesn't get to decide what the product is worth
It's pointless to compare this to a regular subaru short shifter because it's not even close to being the same. The base has to be laser cut, bent, and welded, and the rest of the parts are CNC machined and assembled. This is not a glorified kartboy shifter. It's an entirely different product serving a different market. |
12-12-2016, 02:49 PM | #2814 | |
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Seriously, when you're looking at something that can be had for cheap (kartboy) vs something that's 10 times as much you aren't going to be swayed by marketing rhetoric in this marketing space. I really don't care how they built it, I get their design (and it is cool), but it's not worth $1,200 to 99.9% of the population. That's half the price of a used 6-speed on here. |
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12-12-2016, 02:58 PM | #2815 |
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You're right, it's not worth it to most people who aren't serious about extracting every last 10th out of the car. If you don't like it or don't think it's worth the asking price, don't buy it. Nobody gives a ****, least of all me
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12-12-2016, 03:10 PM | #2816 |
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I'm not going to, but you're comment on "the customer doesn't get to decide" isn't true at all. We do get to decide it's not worth what they're asking by not buying I was interested in it as I have issues shifting to 3rd occasionally in my car, but I'll make my own based on their design before spending $1,200.
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12-12-2016, 03:14 PM | #2817 |
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I feel like shift speed is going to be limited by the syncros and not the shifter mechanism in most cases. Won't a faster, shorter throw shifter just be forcing it and result in excessive wear and possibly damaged parts?
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12-12-2016, 04:15 PM | #2818 | ||
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12-12-2016, 05:52 PM | #2819 | |
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12-12-2016, 06:10 PM | #2820 | |
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12-12-2016, 09:30 PM | #2821 | |
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Koni Shock tuning guide: http://www.bimmerhaus.com/tech/shocktuningTN.html I am having the same problem and am getting my shocks revalved for an increase in compression (have tried all rebound settings with no improvement). I have Koni Yellow shocks so only rebound adjustable with the dial. Last edited by Harey; 12-12-2016 at 10:13 PM. |
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12-12-2016, 09:42 PM | #2822 |
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And that's really where the difference lies. The CAE shifter is cheap compared a somsonas or PPG sequential gearbox. It all depends on what your budget allows.
It looks to me to the the best option for an H pattern gearbox. I bet the CAE really doesn't shine until you have dog engagement gears though. Syncro speed is no longer an issue and what's another 1200 bucks when you're spending 10-15k on a built 6mt dog box. It really isn't meant for the majority of people and they will (and do it looks like) sell to their intended clients. Not the person looking for a kartboy or cobb. Hell, there are vastly cheaper options for pretty much everything on his car, but that's not the build he's going for. Nor would we be following his build for the last 6 years if that was the case either... |
12-13-2016, 10:38 AM | #2823 | ||
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12-13-2016, 10:45 AM | #2824 |
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Ok enough shifter talk for now. I'm really excited to announce that Radium Engineering has come on board as a sponsor for 2017! I will be running their Fuel Cell Surge Tank with internal Walbro 450 pumps. Even with an ATL fuel cell with integrated trap door fuel box, we have been getting fuel starvation when the tank gets low. The Radium part should allow the tank to run all the way to empty without any hiccups. Definitely anxious to address this issue, as it was a real pain this past season. Thank you to Radium Engineering for your support!
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12-13-2016, 11:45 AM | #2825 |
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That Radium setup works very well and will indeed cure the issues you'd see with those silly trap door setups. In fact I have no idea why they are still sold I've yet to meet anyone that's been truly happy running those things.
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