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Old 04-01-2016, 12:05 AM   #176
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It looks really good imo.

Auto pilot standard on all model 3's and 0-60 in less than 6sec even on the base models 3 with a minimum range of 215 miles. Whats not to like
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Old 04-01-2016, 12:06 AM   #177
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Yeah that actually worked better than preordering an iphone ever did.

Mine is reserved.
Same here. It's done. This will be next car. When he said even the base will be 0-60mph in under 6 seconds I felt good about the deposit I made earlier. I hope the more performance orientated options won't be outrageous. I have a hard limit I'm setting for myself. Skipping the autopilot, just give me the power.
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Old 04-01-2016, 12:10 AM   #178
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Same here. It's done. This will be next car. When he said even the base will be 0-60mph in under 6 seconds I felt good about the deposit I made earlier. I hope the more performance orientated options won't be outrageous. I have a hard limit I'm setting for myself. Skipping the autopilot, just give me the power.
Price of autopilot will be minimal compared performance options. Autopilot is awesome, can't imagine going back.

If past pricing holds, performance model will start at 55k, top out at 70k maxed out. I'd bet on 0-60 in the 2's unless they try to make you go upmarket to the S for that.

edit - although the S isn't maxed out yet. Let's see if the 100kWh pack has enough power output to max out the motors. There's another 100kW (not h) that could be put to the ground...
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Old 04-01-2016, 12:18 AM   #179
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Price of autopilot will be minimal compared performance options. Autopilot is awesome, can't imagine going back.

If past pricing holds, performance model will start at 55k, top out at 70k maxed out. I'd bet on 0-60 in the 2's unless they try to make you go upmarket to the S for that.

edit - although the S isn't maxed out yet. Let's see if the 100kWh pack has enough power output to max out the motors. There's another 100kW (not h) that could be put to the ground...
I want the dual motor but I hope is not 55k. I hope is in the 40ish




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Old 04-01-2016, 12:22 AM   #180
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Old 04-01-2016, 12:25 AM   #181
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I want the dual motor but I hope is not 55k. I hope is in the 40ish
Extra motor in the S is only 5k. It will probably be 2-3k in the 3.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:42 AM   #182
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Same here. It's done. This will be next car. When he said even the base will be 0-60mph in under 6 seconds I felt good about the deposit I made earlier. I hope the more performance orientated options won't be outrageous. I have a hard limit I'm setting for myself. Skipping the autopilot, just give me the power.
Last night when I saw the red car in this picture (my first sight of the car) I thought "wagon" for a millisecond. Then I was like "eh that's a hatch.. er.. sorta?"



Anyhow, I went from zero to interested and back in that millisecond. And then I thought about you I knew you were sold.

Imagine how incredible a wagon could have been? I could see dropping $40k on that. Old Musk is probably too weary to ever consider that, though it would kill in most other markets.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:47 AM   #183
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DAT nose doe...


Maybe I'm clinging to aesthetics that are obsolete with the lower cooling requirements of an EV. Still... Not sure if I could live with that. The rest of the car looks great though.

Who are all of these 115,000 people willing to put in a deposit on a car that they haven't even seen a picture of yet?
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:55 AM   #184
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I can't wait to have one. I didn't put a deposit down though, either it will be available when I'm ready or it won't.

Chevy needs to get the Bolt to < 6s to 60 mph.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:21 AM   #185
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Last night when I saw the red car in this picture (my first sight of the car) I thought "wagon" for a millisecond. Then I was like "eh that's a hatch.. er.. sorta?"



Anyhow, I went from zero to interested and back in that millisecond. And then I thought about you I knew you were sold.

Imagine how incredible a wagon could have been? I could see dropping $40k on that. Old Musk is probably too weary to ever consider that, though it would kill in most other markets.
Yeah, not happy about the trunk. It's hinged below the glass so it definitely isn't a hatch, even though the shape is perfect for one, and it looks like one. But I expected this. I was hoping for the Model S type rear opening because that thing is cavernous and a hatch even though it doesn't look like it. Not a fan of the pan roof either but if I'm making a compromise, it will be with an EV. AWD will be offered as well as performance so I'll get 2 out of the 3. If I don't like the final product or decide that I can't live with the compromises, well I get my deposit back, and move on. If this thing was an ICE, not a chance in hell I'd buy it.

For me, Doll and Subaru's lack of support for their current and previous performance hatch customers sent me off to try other things. With the EV, I've gotten used to fueling my car at home in the garage, and for free. The lack of fuel costs is noticeable, as is the lack of dealer visits for maintenance. My car is just a little commuter, slow, etc, but it was only leased to test the space. When I drove the P85D I was sold on this brand. It's an American company making innovative chit, and oddly will be my first American car. I just hope I can get the dual motors for a decent cost. Even the base performance is an increase to what I have now, and sufficient for a DD, so I'm quite sure the upper trims are going to be fast. I'd be heavily surprised if a version isn't offered that does 0-60 in under 5, or under 4. Actually I'd bet money on either being offered. These aren't track cars, they are DD's, so the performance offered is excellent.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:25 AM   #186
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DAT nose doe...

Who are all of these 115,000 people willing to put in a deposit on a car that they haven't even seen a picture of yet?
People who can't afford a Model S but can afford a 30-45k version. Many of them have either ridden in the S or driven one themselves. One drive in a dual motor Tesla, well many would want one after that test drive. If I could afford a P90D, it'd already been in the garage.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:34 AM   #187
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This is a car I have honestly been excited to see, I watched the reveal today on Tesla's site (also the first reveal I've watched in ages). I likely will not get a first year run car, probably not even a second year run as if they are as good as they are supposed to be the demand will be greater than the supply, but man am I looking forward to getting one. So long modern I.C.E. hello modern EV. (note: I will still keep my 66 mustang, it's a nightmare with regards to fuel economy, handling, braking, and every other measurable metric, but I love it.)
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Old 04-01-2016, 01:02 PM   #188
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Granted the interior may not be final, but the ergonomics of not having the speedo behind the wheel is a little

That gray Model III they had on stage was fire, though
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Old 04-01-2016, 01:04 PM   #189
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Granted the interior may not be final, but the ergonomics of not having the speedo behind the wheel is a little

That gray Model III they had on stage was fire, though
I thought it was supposed to have a HUD for the speedo etc...?
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Old 04-01-2016, 01:07 PM   #190
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could have been a lot worse.
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Old 04-01-2016, 01:09 PM   #191
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IMO it's a very nice looking car but the lack of a front grill makes it look a bit odd. Even if the car doesn't require the cooling effect of a front grill they should have put a fake grill or some black opening like an EVO X, Focus RS, Audi, Lexus, etc for aesthetics.
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Old 04-01-2016, 01:28 PM   #192
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IMO it's a very nice looking car but the lack of a front grill makes it look a bit odd. Even if the car doesn't require the cooling effect of a front grill they should have put a fake grill or some black opening like an EVO X, Focus RS, Audi, Lexus, etc for aesthetics.
It's not the final production version. Think about it, this is just to show something. Mostly done, but any big complaints can still be addressed.
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Would not be at all surprised to see them offer an accessory blackout "grille"
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Old 04-01-2016, 01:41 PM   #194
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I like the Model III, been in discussions with the wife about whether to put down a deposit or not. I think we're going to wait.

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Old 04-01-2016, 01:55 PM   #195
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Auto pilot standard on all model 3's and 0-60 in less than 6sec even on the base models 3 with a minimum range of 215 miles. Whats not to like
Autopilot safety features are standard, convenience features are not. Just clarifying as some are assuming the car will drive for them as a standard feature which is not the case.

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Not a fan of the pan roof either
From the first drive videos it seems that there are three options. All fixed glass, metal roof overhead, or an opening moonroof.
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From the first drive videos it seems that there are three options. All fixed glass, metal roof overhead, or an opening moonroof.
Awesome. That will be one way to knock the price down some. Price will escalate from metal roof, to moonroof, to pano glass being the most expensive. Skip the roof options and get the D!
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Autopilot safety features are standard, convenience features are not. Just clarifying as some are assuming the car will drive for them as a standard feature which is not the case.
Yeah but it will be an OTA update if you want to buy it later, like it is on the Model S.
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I personally will choose whichever roof option has the most headroom and offers the clearest view of traffic lights. I loathe modern swoopy rooflines that crop out the top portion of my front and front-side view. Make that same roofline with glass and make the door frame big enough that I don't have to duck in and I'll be happy.
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I personally will choose whichever roof option has the most headroom and offers the clearest view of traffic lights. I loathe modern swoopy rooflines that crop out the top portion of my front and front-side view. Make that same roofline with glass and make the door frame big enough that I don't have to duck in and I'll be happy.
Same here.
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There's a video of them in the ride a long showing the inside of the prototype and it looks like there's tons of headroom.

The grill area is starting to not be as hideous, I will probably buy one when some of the hype dies down and you can order one with a reasonable wait time. There's a supercharger less than a mile from work.
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I like that roof. In the Model S, at least, the pano roof gained headroom, iirc.
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