The New WRX (MY2023+) RUMORS ONLY

[Stickee]

Originally Posted by KC

New thought...

New STi, only comes over in Levorg body, 6MT, EZ36T. The crowd goes WILD. Many cheers had. BESPOKE model from Subaru.

I would buy this. Given the choice, would get a 6MT but if it only came in CVT, I could settle for it.

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[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by Cowboy Neal

Why did they spend the millions for the homologation?

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2019/12/w...ll-in-america/

That is the dumbest thing I have ever read. It was just an STI with some upgrades. Why go through all of that.

Originally Posted by rallly 4

We won't see a hybrid sports car from Subaru for the next 10+ years

If ever. My bet is on never. No need for hybrid sports cars. Waste of development money. Just make BEVs. A normal BEV will be quicker than any STI that ever existed. Now just make it better at turning and you have an STI model EV.

Originally Posted by Stickee

I would buy this. Given the choice, would get a 6MT but if it only came in CVT, I could settle for it.

Don't give them ideas. No one wants the CVT, er SPT.

[Straight6]

I have a friend that is a friend of a cousin of a friend that works at Subaru HQ...He saw the STi prototype in Japan and it was sick but that's all the info I can give away at this point.

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by Cowboy Neal

But why spend millions for 209 cars? The STi or whatever already existed. Now the whole STI STi model is dead. That was a waste of money on the homologation.

You're thinking of just the "model" STi with this. Not the "company" STI. That homologation now allows STI(not Subaru) to bring more cars over. Which it sounded like they wanted to do.....before the pandemic. I think all we can do is cross our fingers now.

Originally Posted by Snow Drift

That is the dumbest thing I have ever read. It was just an STI with some upgrades. Why go through all of that....




....Don't give them ideas. No one wants the CVT, er SPT.

That article seems to explain it pretty well.




And I am getting an SPT WRX(know several others that would like one as well). Just not sure what trim level yet. If I wasn't getting a DD first, I'd get the GT. Just gotta see how it all works out at the end of next year.

[rallly 4]

An STI hasn't been homologated since 97 or 98. Homologation is when they're built to satisfy racing requirements , usually in rallying for Subaru,

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

An STI hasn't been homologated since 97 or 98. Homologation is when they're built to satisfy racing requirements , usually in rallying for Subaru,

Terminology. Whatever it is that STI needed to bring their cars here.

[JRodrigues]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

An STI hasn't been homologated since 97 or 98. Homologation is when they're built to satisfy racing requirements , usually in rallying for Subaru,

what homologation is that you're talking about?

[rallly 4]

Originally Posted by JRodrigues

what homologation is that you're talking about?

Google it

[JRodrigues]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

An STI hasn't been homologated since 97 or 98. Homologation is when they're built to satisfy racing requirements , usually in rallying for Subaru,

what homologation is that you're talking about?

[JRodrigues]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

Google it

Lol yeah.. you don't know what you're talking about. Just like the 'my friend saw the STI but I can't tell because he'd fired' story. bye.

[rallly 4]

Originally Posted by JRodrigues

Lol yeah.. you don't know what you're talking about. Just like the 'my friend saw the STI but I can't tell because he'd fired' story. bye.

Lol group A homologation rules ended w/ the 97 or 98 seasons. Last true rally homologation STI was whatever version they built to meet regulations for that season.

The GD chassis and GR was never homologation for WRC bc they didn’t have to built a street version to meet requirements. Subaru was nice enough to keep giving us a rally replica.

You do realize these cars where created because of the homologation requirements group A had after group B was banned. The WRX, STI, evo where all homologation cars that became popular. You tell me idk what I’m talking about and you can’t bother to Google 1/10th of the info
You can Google what I said before and figure that out.

[rmbrady]

Homologation is the process of making a car legal for sale. All cars on the road are homologated. STI as a separate brand had to go through a homologation process for the sale the the S209.

Rallly4 is talking about motorsports homologation, which doesn't seem to have any bearing on this thread unless the next STI is something more like a GR Yaris instead of a souped up WRX.

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[JRodrigues]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

Lol group A homologation rules ended w/ the 97 or 98 seasons. Last true rally homologation STI was whatever version they built to meet regulations for that season.

The GD chassis and GR was never homologation for WRC bc they didn’t have to built a street version to meet requirements. Subaru was nice enough to keep giving us a rally replica.

You do realize these cars where created because of the homologation requirements group A had after group B was banned. The WRX, STI, evo where all homologation cars that became popular. You tell me idk what I’m talking about and you can’t bother to Google 1/10th of the info
You can Google what I said before and figure that out.

You really don't know what you're talking about. lol

All of the latest STI's have been homologated by the FIA for competition. The last one was homologated in 2018:

https://www.sti.jp/en/competition/gr...ologation.html

https://www.sti.jp/en/competition/gr...58_0101_ET.pdf

Just walk out before you look even fooler.

[JustyWRC]

[bugatti0628]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

why did you bring out the popcorn bro, don't tease us like that

[Snow Drift]

Guys, we are talking about the cars being Federalized. Aka, crash testing etc. Homologation is for racing. STI the brand decided to be a separate entity instead of just a trim for the S209. Why? No idea. Seems like a waste of time and money (unless STI Inc. gets extra EV credits).

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by bugatti0628

why did you bring out the popcorn bro, don't tease us like that

Meh. Waiting to see the back and forth of this that was better explained by Snow below(and above). Seemingly all stemming from the bad use of terms by an article written.

Originally Posted by Snow Drift

Guys, we are talking about the cars being Federalized. Aka, crash testing etc. Homologation is for racing. STI the brand decided to be a separate entity instead of just a trim for the S209. Why? No idea. Seems like a waste of time and money (unless STI Inc. gets extra EV credits).

Well, Subaru, back before the pandemic and all the issues that followed, said they had plans to do more STI in the states. This was probably the first step to doing that. I have a feeling that it may now be a waste of money with all the things that have happened and the resulting decisions. Positive thing to take from it though, is that it's done. So now, if they still want to do it, they are "ready" for it.

[samagon]

I love a good gangbang.

if all Rally 4 is considering is Group A homologation, then he might be right, but as others point out, Subaru has continued to homologate, both for motorsport, and just in the general sense.

[4S-TURBO]

Originally Posted by JRodrigues

Lol yeah.. you don't know what you're talking about. Just like the 'my friend saw the STI but I can't tell because he'd fired' story. bye.

I don't know what you're getting at here. The STI was killed ~6-8 months before scheduled production. So there was at least one finalized version for those in the know to have seen or experienced. Whether images, videos, or in person. I think that group of people is relatively small, more so if each individual were given access to different things about the car. So it only makes sense why this 'buddy' of rally4 shared whatever he could over some beers but nothing definitive or detailed but enough to give rally4 a rage boner to come back here with. But any information with proof would come right back to him/her. Now that rally4 has stuck his rage boner out there, there are plenty of SoDs on the internet to attack his credibility and turn around and report that information directly to SOA. It's not like this sort of thing doesn't happen or hasn't happened before. Subaru used to have a presence here for these very reasons.

So yeah, THAT part of the story is 100% believable. As is the fact that there was a finished pre pro version Subaru would have made more of for the unveiling and press cars. The timeline suggests Subaru pulled the plug before they moved forward with producing more of them.



I'm only here for the early WRX refresh update though. The STI is dead. Long live clapped out used STIs...

[JRodrigues]

Originally Posted by Snow Drift

Guys, we are talking about the cars being Federalized. Aka, crash testing etc. Homologation is for racing. STI the brand decided to be a separate entity instead of just a trim for the S209. Why? No idea. Seems like a waste of time and money (unless STI Inc. gets extra EV credits).

That's why I asked what homologation was he talking about. Because he doesn't know what he's saying.

[Scooby-Doode]

According to that graphic we are getting a FMC of the Impreza and Crosstrek in 2023 CY. Interesting....

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by Scooby-Doode

According to that graphic we are getting a FMC of the Impreza and Crosstrek in 2023 CY. Interesting....

Coming in hot.

[bugatti0628]

Originally Posted by Scooby-Doode

According to that graphic we are getting a FMC of the Impreza and Crosstrek in 2023 CY. Interesting....

emphasize on it saying calender year 23, not MY23, although the delays on the production line due to lack of chips may have changed that

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by Scooby-Doode

According to that graphic we are getting a FMC of the Impreza and Crosstrek in 2023 CY. Interesting....

Yep. They will be released the same MY. They were at the recent retailer meeting........that I didn't get to go to this year.......and have been told they are nice. Aaannnddd, of course, that is subjective and I fully expect nothing but hate from this site.

[4S-TURBO]

You're saying the Impreza is going to have more cladding than the Crosstrek?