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Old 04-25-2018, 07:25 AM   #1
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Default Prediction Next Mustang Get V8 power Hybrid 2.3 Ecoboost RWF

t’s no secret that Ford Motor Company is working on a hybrid version of the iconic Ford Mustang pony car. When it arrives in 2020, it will deliver “V8 power and even more low-end torque,” the automaker says, thanks to a powertrain consisting of an internal-combustion engine and one or more electric motors. Of course, what is considered V8-like power and torque output is largely a subjective matter; it wasn’t too long ago that the 310 horsepower and 350 lb-ft put out by the 2.3L EcoBoost in today’s four-cylinder Mustang would have been considered “V8 power”.

Despite the ambiguity, Motor Trend recently took a stab at trying to forecast what the powertrain of the forthcoming Ford Mustang hybrid might look like, and the outlet predicts that the pony car will use the Mustang EcoBoost’s 2.3L I4, sending all of its “V8 power” exclusively to the back wheels. The sporty hybrid could use a Belted Alternator Starter (BAS) hybrid system like the one rumored to help power the next Ford Focus RS, but more likely, Motor Trend says, it will utilize a more traditional hybrid powertrain design with an electric motor fitted between the gasoline engine and the transmission.

Rather than use a continuously variable transmission, as so many hybrids do, the future Ford Mustang hybrid could send its torque rearward through Ford’s 10-speed automatic transmission, the publication says. A manual transmission option seems rather out of the question, but we can hold on to hope.

For 2018, Ford introduced a new-and-improved version of the S550 Mustang, and the third-generation Coyote V8 now powering the GT has been bumped up to 460 horsepower. If that’s the sort of “V8 power” the automaker is targeting with its new hybrid, it will require a fairly robust electric motor and battery hardware to match. More than likely, however, Ford won’t want to risk dethroning the GT as the most powerful “regular” model in the range.

It’s unknown whether Ford is fixing to introduce the forthcoming Mustang hybrid as a new model at the tail end of the S550’s life cycle, or launch the car as one model in an all-new “S650” range. Either way, with a debut not planned for until 2020, we’ll have to wait some time before we can solidify any details regarding the hybrid pony car.
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Old 04-25-2018, 10:24 AM   #2
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Would be nice if the S650 morphed into a 2dr & 4dr (and wagon) platform - if it's hybrid then gas powered RWD, electric motor(s) on the front, Automatic & MANUALLY selectable AWD system & bias. I don't see why they couldn't keep a manual trans in an AWD hybrid system like that, other manu's can do it with 1/2 & 1/2 (albeit with DCT or Autos). Would get heavy though, and with a hybrid system (and V8) tip the scales at over 4k lbs, probably closer to 4.5k.

full ev mode for short trips/traffic (FWD)
full gas mode for whenever you feel like melting tires or doing donuts (RWD)
hybrid mode with an auto setting that blends the electric in as weather conditions dictate (AWD)
hybrid mode that lets you set bias to varying degrees of rear or front (AWD)

could replace the fusion or become the fusion when it has four doors and a different nose
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Old 04-25-2018, 10:00 PM   #3
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Would be nice if the S650 morphed into a 2dr & 4dr (and wagon) platform - if it's hybrid then gas powered RWD, electric motor(s) on the front, Automatic & MANUALLY selectable AWD system & bias. I don't see why they couldn't keep a manual trans in an AWD hybrid system like that, other manu's can do it with 1/2 & 1/2 (albeit with DCT or Autos). Would get heavy though, and with a hybrid system (and V8) tip the scales at over 4k lbs, probably closer to 4.5k.

full ev mode for short trips/traffic (FWD)
full gas mode for whenever you feel like melting tires or doing donuts (RWD)
hybrid mode with an auto setting that blends the electric in as weather conditions dictate (AWD)
hybrid mode that lets you set bias to varying degrees of rear or front (AWD)

could replace the fusion or become the fusion when it has four doors and a different nose
Probably never gonna happen now that Ford just announced they are axing all of their cars except the Mustang.
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Old 04-26-2018, 12:25 PM   #4
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Don't be surprised if they make a 4 door version and a crossover and a new Cox Testors .049 powered
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Old 04-30-2018, 02:44 PM   #5
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A modern Honda 2.4l (normally aspirated I4) makes "V8 Power" if you are bench marking against V8's from the late 70's...I believe a '76 Corvette was rated at just about 180 hp, just like the cheapest Accord you can purchase new today. It's all a matter of perspective.
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A modern Honda 2.4l (normally aspirated I4) makes "V8 Power" if you are bench marking against V8's from the late 70's...I believe a '76 Corvette was rated at just about 180 hp, just like the cheapest Accord you can purchase new today. It's all a matter of perspective.
benchmarking against gas crisis era cars....
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Old 08-11-2018, 06:29 AM   #7
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Ford Motor Co. is eager to keep the buzz around the Mustang alive as the company makes the transition to a world where autonomous and electrified vehicles are common, one of the company’s top executives told reporters after the automaker marked the production of the 10 millionth Mustang.

Jim Farley, executive vice president and president of Global Markets, said the long-running success of the Mustang, which has become a global brand, can serve as a beacon for the company as it goes through what amounts to once-every-100-years transition.

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“Mustang is the heart and soul of the Ford Motors Co. It’s a global product and it’s one of the reasons we’re different as a company.” Farley said. “It inspires other vehicles in the line-up. The ‘Mustangness’ of the company is starting with its products,” such the electric vehicles Ford has under development now. “The company has confidence in the Mustang and it knows the customer really well.

“Mustang has more Facebook followers than any other car: period. It comes down to one thing: Mustang is the best of the Ford Motor Co. It delivers that sense of freedom we all want Mustang is the heart and soul of the Ford Motor Co. At the same, time the Mustang itself will continue to evolve,” Farley said.

The most powerful street-legal Mustang, the GT500, is coming to showrooms next year and our hybrid Mustang are right around the corner, Farley said. “So Mustang is going to keep on going,” he said.

The hybrid Mustang waiting in the wings will build on traditional strengths of the Mustang brand. “Fun and affordability” have always been part of formula underlying the Mustang, which has used a variety of powertrains from 4-cylinder engines to muscular V8s during its 54-year history, he noted.

The evolution of the between the first and 10 millionth Mustang is apparent here, and it will continue with a hybrid offering.

“The hybrid is not about fuel economy. It’s about adding performance. It’s a different twist on hybrid,” said Farley, who was a rising junior executive at Toyota when it launched the Prius.

At the same, Ford is preparing to build autonomous vehicles at the assembly plant in Flat Rock that is the home of Mustang production. The plant has exported more than 480,000 vehicles to 146 countries in the last four years, Farley said.

“It’s just in early days but it’s going to a very interesting mix,” said Farley of the planning at the Flat Rock factory for the debut of Ford’s AVs. “We’re making great progress on the product. Obviously, we’re a couple years away. But the product is coming along really nicely,” Farley said.
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If they go the torque converter / electric motor route it will filter down to the F150. I bet that is the longer term goal here.
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If they go the torque converter / electric motor route it will filter down to the F150. I bet that is the longer term goal here.
Yes, I would imagine the previously announced hybrid F150 and the hybrid Mustang will share their hybrid systems.
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