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Old 03-17-2010, 07:48 PM   #2801
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I'm still playing around with Adobe lightroom since I'm still waiting to get photoshop. The owner wanted a less vibrant feel to his pictures with the reds popping out a bit more...but I can't do it with just lightroom =/
Why not? You can easily boost or desaturate any color you want in LR. Go into the HSL adjustment panel. http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Lightroo...D53FD83FF.html
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Old 03-17-2010, 07:55 PM   #2802
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I'm still playing around with Adobe lightroom since I'm still waiting to get photoshop. The owner wanted a less vibrant feel to his pictures with the reds popping out a bit more...but I can't do it with just lightroom =/
You haven't discovered the wonderfulness of Lightroom yet Desaturating most of the colors but making others stand out more is one of the things that Lightroom does easiest! In the Saturation panel on the right, you can adjust the saturation of each color individually to create the exact look you want. Here's an example I found on Google images just to show exactly which panel I'm talking about:



Nikons have a tendency to oversaturate red, so I often actually tone down the red while keeping the saturation up for other colors. The best part of this tool is that if you click on that circle on the top left directly underneath "hue," your cursor becomes a crosshair with double-sided arrow next to it that points up and down. With this cursor, you can click and drag either up or down on any color in the photo to increase or decrease its saturation, respectively of course. This panel is essential since as you can see, you can make these adjustments also to Hue, Luminance, or all of them at the same time.

As far as composition goes though, you have the fire hydrant at a thirds cross point, but the car isn't...which in a way makes the viewer focus more on the fire hydrant rather than the car.
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Old 03-18-2010, 04:41 PM   #2803
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What do you guys think of this one? I bought some Neutral Density filters, so it should make it easier for next time...

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Old 03-18-2010, 10:55 PM   #2804
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What do you guys think of this one? I bought some Neutral Density filters, so it should make it easier for next time...
Nice shot! The ND filters should definitely help get rid of the blown out highlights on the hood and windshield
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:29 PM   #2805
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Still a bit overexposed on the white, and the car's still a bit toward the edge of the frame. Remember, you want to try to position the subject at a thirds cross point, like this:



As far as shooting space goes, I ALWAYS try to shoot where I have a lot of space. I've often had the opportunity to shoot in a nice spot with a view, but it was so cramped that I knew that I wouldn't like the lack of freedom in terms of shooting.
I turned this option on with my new camera so I can have the reminder to do this with my upcoming shots.
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:44 AM   #2806
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there's a grid option? does the d80 have it? lol if so i've been missing out!
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Old 03-19-2010, 01:00 AM   #2807
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there's a grid option? does the d80 have it? lol if so i've been missing out!
Yes, the D80 should have this. You should be able to access it through the "Custom" menu.

It's nice that the digicams allow this as a built-in feature. Back in the day, you used to have to purchase a new grid screen and put it in. I recall putting one in my N90s, and that actually was sort of annoying because it involved a set of tweezers. The F-series of cameras made it very easy, however, and were more plentiful and cheaper to replace. I always had the Type-R or E screen with grids in my F3, and they were very helpful with composition.

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Old 03-19-2010, 03:24 AM   #2808
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there's a grid option? does the d80 have it? lol if so i've been missing out!
Got this from DPReview...it's pretty much what the grid on your D80 will look like once you have it turned on:



As you can see, it's actually more separated into quarters rather than thirds, but it's still going to be very helpful, especially over not having the grid at all Then again, the thirds cross points already have available focus points on them, so it shouldn't be a problem anyway.
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:30 AM   #2809
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there's a grid option? does the d80 have it? lol if so i've been missing out!
Well I now have a Canon T2i (friken great camera!!). And it has the thirds cross points as well as another one that has a load more lines, lol.

I just got the camera this last Monday night and started using it after the battery had a few hours to charge up and such. That was actually one the first settings I found when I was playing with it before opening the manual on it.

From my understanding most of the newer cameras are getting this as an option.
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:54 PM   #2810
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Washed the car today and took a couple pics! What cha think?









This two are centered but I liked um!



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Old 03-20-2010, 12:10 AM   #2811
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What kind of wild contraption set up is this?

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Old 03-20-2010, 12:50 AM   #2812
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What kind of wild contraption set up is this?

link to original?
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:05 AM   #2813
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[quote=BoneJj;30126443http://c2.ac-link to original?[/quote]

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In this shot would it be okay to have the wheels straight?

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This shot has so much potential, just a few tweaks and you would have really killed it. The front wheels, IMO, would work either way, but I would have liked to se them cocked in this pic. I would have changed the following.

- Shot with a little lower f-stop to push the background out a bit
- Slightly wider crop on the right side
- Sandard desaturated processing (no red)
- HDR the road only (to pick up the grain)
- Process a darker shot for the overexposed bits (taillights)
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Wow as far as framing I would have done the same thing.. I was basically on the fence though didn't have any more room to work.

I HDRed the road only thats why it has some grain, but thats the most I could pick up.

HDR.. is that where multiple under-exposed layers are combined to make the final exposure/layer?

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Old 03-20-2010, 01:41 AM   #2814
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looks like some kind of custom flash.

at least that's what I think it is.
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:47 AM   #2815
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HDR.. is that where multiple under-exposed layers are combined to make the final exposure/layer?
No, HDR is a better-than-reality combination of details using multiple exposures. Instead of just getting details in the mid-tones, which a proper exposure would give you, HDR adds details in the dark tones (by using an overexposed image), and details in the light tones (by using an underexposed image) to create details across the entire tone spectrum. Images such as these cannot be created with a single exposure...

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Old 03-20-2010, 01:56 AM   #2816
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I'm honestly not on any photography forums regularly anymore. Just about all of them ended up annoying me to no end. Either the advice that alleged "experts" gave was way off base, people were just fanbois of some "experts" to the point where they could do no wrong, or it was just full of people who didn't want to take any nor give any constructive criticism. I'll be the first person to admit I've done something wrong and I'm always happy to take constructive criticism, but I've found a lot of these photography forums have people who simply talk a bunch of **** with comments like "you call yourself professional?" or "you're a n00b" or "come back when you actually take a good photo." Dressing you down like that might work great in the early weeks of a Marine Corps boot camp, but being like that all the time is not a very good teaching environment. The worst part is getting into arguments with photographers who clearly still have a lot to learn, but because they have cheap rates, they get published by magazines and then use this whole published status to supposedly back up what they're saying as correct, even if it's completely the opposite. If there was one forum I'd recommend, it'd be this one since it was started by NASIOC members:

http://www.newschoolofphotography.com

I haven't been on there in awhile though. All of the photography forums en masse just gave me a bad taste in my mouth about visiting any of them.

As far as the exposure compensation on your camera, I've actually found little use for it, no matter what mode I'm in. The main reason why is because if I need to adjust exposure, I usually do it later during RAW processing anyway, so changing it on the camera is a bit useless for the way I process photos.
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He (Ver) has provided me with much needed insight. I am located in a small town and a buiz opportunity presented itself (met the co-owner at a bar ), a night club open up (1-of-10 ) and approached him (Verdugo) with some advice on portfolio work as I have never thought of photography as a line of work. He provided me with some very constructive criticism that has aided me in my efforts to become a better photographer.



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No, HDR is a better-than-reality combination of details using multiple exposures. Instead of just getting details in the mid-tones, which a proper exposure would give you, HDR adds details in the dark tones (by using an overexposed image), and details in the light tones (by using an underexposed image) to create details across the entire tone spectrum. Images such as these cannot be created with a single exposure...

Thanks, I'm stone-age when it comes to photography and its techniques. Photography only has come into my interest through my x., as she has done some model work and pushed me to pursue that field when she found some files on my CPU and saw my camera.

Not my photography



Noob-tastic (was never thinking of photography as a hobby in these pix)



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Old 03-20-2010, 10:54 AM   #2817
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I just snapped these. This is sitting across the street from my house. Sorry the first one sucks and the other three aren't great. Still learning but wanted to record something most people never see. Spyker C8 Spyder SWB.









These were the best of the bunch I snapped.
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Old 03-20-2010, 11:43 AM   #2818
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That Spyker is an amazing car!

Took my son out to the park and took advantage of my freshly washed car. CandC is greatly appreciated. You cant get any better without knowing the flaws.



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Old 03-20-2010, 12:30 PM   #2819
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Washed the car today and took a couple pics! What cha think?

This two are centered but I liked um!
Your composition is quite good on these, although I usually prefer a tighter crop for the centered ones. I also probably would've turned the wheels a tiny bit more, except for the third to last shot where I would've kept them completely straight. The processing overall is pretty good, but as I always tell everyone with white cars, pay extra attention to make sure you get a proper exposure without overexposing the white. You do have some dark shadows in some of them, so it might take a little more processing work to keep detail in those shadows while still making sure the white doesn't get overexposed. Nice work!
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:32 PM   #2820
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What kind of wild contraption set up is this?

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looks like some kind of custom flash.

at least that's what I think it is.
Yep, it's a custom flash of some sort.
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:35 PM   #2821
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I just snapped these. This is sitting across the street from my house. Sorry the first one sucks and the other three aren't great. Still learning but wanted to record something most people never see. Spyker C8 Spyder SWB.

These were the best of the bunch I snapped.
Nice subject matter The first shot is good but it's not perfectly level. The next two are extremely center-weighted, and the last one doesn't really have a clear focus point. Then again, for quick snaps they really aren't too bad at all.
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:39 PM   #2822
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That Spyker is an amazing car!

Took my son out to the park and took advantage of my freshly washed car. CandC is greatly appreciated. You cant get any better without knowing the flaws.
Good job getting low for both of these shots, but these are a tad underexposed, and both a bit center-weighted. Also, the disadvantage of shooting in a park like that is you have all these trees growing out of your car. You can also benefit from polarizing the windshield.
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Old 03-20-2010, 04:13 PM   #2823
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Good job getting low for both of these shots, but these are a tad underexposed, and both a bit center-weighted. Also, the disadvantage of shooting in a park like that is you have all these trees growing out of your car. You can also benefit from polarizing the windshield.
I will try aliitle more PP and get them a bit more exposed. Seemded to be when i added more exposure to the pics i had some hot spots on the hood. Ill see what i can come up with. MAybe some BandW or a tighter crop would work well? I realize the location isnt the best, just want to get some practice.

Ive been meaning to order a CP for a while now, jst havent geot around to it.

Thanks for the CandC.

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Nice subject matter The first shot is good but it's not perfectly level. The next two are extremely center-weighted, and the last one doesn't really have a clear focus point. Then again, for quick snaps they really aren't too bad at all.
I realized the first one wasn't level when I opened it on the computer. I can't see half this stuff on the little screen. When you say the next two are center-weighted, is that a bad thing? What would have been a more appropriate way to photograph those two items?
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Old 03-20-2010, 06:23 PM   #2825
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ok armin and others... lol.

let read the damage... lol. Let me know what you think of this one. this is the first in my series that I just started editing. There was a car show today at a local "car museum" and everyone brought there stuff out and I went around taking shots and such.

I did a lot of editing on this one image removing shadows from other cars and a couple poles from the background and such.

If you could please critique the following mainly:
image quality (lighting and such) granted this was 4pm-ish as I didn't wasn't able to stick around.
Watermark: I've been experimenting with a new style. let me know what you think of it. Should I make it transparent or should I just have it full on?

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