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Old 01-31-2005, 04:48 PM   #1
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I would love to see an STi wagon come to the states. How about the rest of you? The WRX wagon currently outsells the sedan here in North America, so it seems like there is a market for it. Picture it: the Impreza wagon with 300 horsepower (or more!!), a six speed, and some serious Brembo stopping power... all with a warranty! <Drool>

I like the '04 STi that I have now, but I need more space. I went from a Forester (a little boxy-looking, but great space) to my STi. I really don't miss the sluggish performance or boxy looks, but I do miss the cargo capacity.

Has anyone heard about the possibility of a North American STi wagon? Post your thoughts! Maybe if we yell loud enough, SOA will hear us
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Old 01-31-2005, 05:06 PM   #2
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this has been discussed time and time again on this board. no one knows. i wouldn't get your hopes up, though.
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Old 01-31-2005, 05:51 PM   #3
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I have the same wet dream weekly buddy. Oh how I wish... But, I think me dating Clair Danes is more likely wet dream to come true. But, if I had one wish it would be a tough call between the two....

Did hear rumblings about STi Forester though. But don't spend lots of time in the rumor-mill world.
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Old 01-31-2005, 06:18 PM   #4
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The WRX wagon currently outsells the sedan here in North America, so it seems like there is a market for it.
Let me guess: You were at your dealer's one day and a Subaru rep told you that.
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Old 01-31-2005, 10:21 PM   #5
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Beat me to it; not even close.
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Old 01-31-2005, 10:34 PM   #6
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I talked to a Suby rep one day, and he said that there's almost definately gonna be an STi Legacy wagon for 2006 (of course, he said it'll be a 2.5l twin-turbo or an H-6 turbo or something wierd like that, but basically it would have about 400hp). The only reason I'm tempted to believe any of it was because I was looking at the new 05 Legacy's when he told me...now why would a salesman lie about that, since it would keep me from thinking about getting the 05 Legacy that I was sitting in at the time? A "good" lie would be something like "Subaru has had too many complaints from state troopers across the nation about the Legacy 2.5GT being too fast, so 2005 is probably going to be the only year that they make the turbo model". That would be a "useful" lie.
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Old 01-31-2005, 10:43 PM   #7
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...now why would a salesman lie about that, since it would keep me from thinking about getting the 05 Legacy that I was sitting in at the time? A "good" lie would be something like "Subaru has had too many complaints from state troopers across the nation about the Legacy 2.5GT being too fast, so 2005 is probably going to be the only year that they make the turbo model". That would be a "useful" lie.
Well, the idea is than an STi version of any Subaru model is more costly than any non-STi version of any other model.
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Old 02-01-2005, 09:23 AM   #8
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Just my two cents but I highly doubt a STI wagon would come over. The reason the wagon sells more than sedans is simply because of the typical families are buying them not tracking speed demons. You have to remember Subaru is in this business to make money not create a line of super cars where they make minimal profits on and an STI wagon isn't going to make everybody go out and get one.

On that note I think a refined Legacy STI would fit the upscale premium Subaru name it is looking for, but that's just me.
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Old 02-01-2005, 09:32 AM   #9
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Ah, but a sportier image is what they need to get younger buyers in the doors. Right now, in america, subaru = crocodile dundee. If they had STi versions of the legacy and forrester, a line of "supercars", then yonger kids will buy more Legacy's and base level cars.

Just look at WRX sales.
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Old 02-01-2005, 09:40 AM   #10
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They want to create a premium brand name, Impreza is not their premium car they want to add more supercars to. I really don't think they want to become a Dodge where they market all their cars to young racers dying for speed. The core of their buyers are people who want the safety and reliability of AWD, and practicality at a good price which Subaru is doing a great job of.
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Old 02-01-2005, 09:45 AM   #11
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I think a lot will depend on how the STi model range evolves. Right now the WRX STi is a hard-edged street brawler. It could evolve into something with more luxury items, like the Benz AMG models, or the BMW M-cars; still ultra high performance cars, but cars with a much wider sales appeal. If that happens, then I think STi wagons could occur—in all the Subie model ranges.

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Old 02-01-2005, 09:45 AM   #12
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I would go crazy, then get one... what could be better than a sti, with all the functionality of a wagon, at the expense of 80lbs...
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Old 02-01-2005, 10:38 AM   #13
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I would go crazy, then get one... what could be better than a sti, with all the functionality of a wagon, at the expense of 80lbs...
Agreed.

But I'm not holding my breath.
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Old 02-01-2005, 11:40 AM   #14
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This is like discussing the possibility Catherine Zita-Jones posting her profile on Match.com...

I'm getting all excited thinking about it, but it ain't happening.
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Old 02-01-2005, 11:51 AM   #15
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I dont think Subaru would do it, they might as well make a higher performance version of the Forester XT, or the Legacy wagon.

Personally, I'd spring for a Legacy Wagon (or even the Forester XT), add a few mods (suspension, etc...nothing major), and it'll still be cheaper than an STi
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Old 02-01-2005, 01:01 PM   #16
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I would go crazy, then get one... what could be better than a sti, with all the functionality of a wagon, at the expense of 80lbs...

This would be why I'll probably end up having Aerosim swap a used STi engine and 6MT tranny into my WRX Wagon at some point in the next 24 months.

Subaru has had ample opportunity to offer an Impreza STi Wagon in the US. There are plenty of us wagoneers out there on the sidelines who could afford a regular STi but need the wagon's space (think mountainbikers, parents, people who just prefer hatchbacks, etc).
They could also easily be stealing sales from people who end up spending another $10k+ on an Audi S4 Avant, but SOA has instead sat on their thumbs and watched easy sales pass them by for two years.

They just don't get it.
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Old 02-01-2005, 01:03 PM   #17
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Forester STI. Bet we'll see it in another year.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=8310
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Old 02-01-2005, 01:07 PM   #18
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Just my two cents but I highly doubt a STI wagon would come over. The reason the wagon sells more than sedans is simply because of the typical families are buying them not tracking speed demons. You have to remember Subaru is in this business to make money not create a line of super cars where they make minimal profits on and an STI wagon isn't going to make everybody go out and get one.

On that note I think a refined Legacy STI would fit the upscale premium Subaru name it is looking for, but that's just me.
Mercedes benz is coming out with a E55 wagon, I know an Impreza is no E-class but the market for a performance wagon is there.

I do agreewith seeing a STi Legacy first.
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Old 02-01-2005, 01:49 PM   #19
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I've seriously started thinking about taking a FXT, tightening up the suspension and hot rodding it a little. I don't see an Impreza STi wagon, but a STi Forester (already exists as a model in their range) I could see. In fact, I'd love to see it this summer, but don't have my hopes up.
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Old 02-01-2005, 10:56 PM   #20
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A rep I talked to at the LA auto show said they are "entertaining an Sti Wagon" due to interest. He said he wouldn't consider anything final till they publish specs. But, hey I'd love one, so some hope is better than not!! Just keep emailing Subaru of America to keep the interest HOT!
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Old 02-01-2005, 10:59 PM   #21
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Forester STI. Bet we'll see it in another year.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=8310
I will wait till they build it in Japan first, the forester is in the middle of a facelift (see other threads in N&R)

It's at least 2 years off here if it comes at all
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Old 02-01-2005, 11:13 PM   #22
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Let me guess: You were at your dealer's one day and a Subaru rep told you that.
When I visited the US a few months ago, I noticed there were many more wagons than sedans. Here in Australia they only sell 1 wagon to each 20 sedans. Why didn't Subaru give the wagon flared wheels arches on both the front and rear..... aka Audi RS4 style!!
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Old 02-02-2005, 03:31 AM   #23
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I will buy a legacy STI if they come. Just please announce yay or nay soon......I'm buying a new car late 05/early 06 one way or the other.

Bought a 2.5RS in 2000 and then soon after the wrx in the states finally became real.......everyone then said the STI would never come to the states...I held off not upgrading to the wrx and then wham....here comes the sti. Ive almost caved a few times for the STI but held off once the turbo legacy rumors started. Most recently I had pre-aranged financing ready and was on the lots ready to do the legacy. The reality is to make the legacy how I want it, I will top what a STI legacy would go for if they come.

At this point a Legacy STI will mean I also keep my dear 00 2.5RS coupe as well....I hope the stars are aligned and we really do see a STI legacy for 06!
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Well, the idea is than an STi version of any Subaru model is more costly than any non-STi version of any other model.
...but there's nothing costly about a pipe dream STi Legacy wagon, especially if it makes a potential buyer hold onto their money until the STi wagon is realized.
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Not to speculate too much, but I would never expect an STi Legacy wagon to hit these shores. Subaru is obviously interestes in infusing its entire lineup with performance, but the Legacy wagon is probably the least likely candidate to get the STi treatment (aside from the B9). Regardless of the very vocal pining of a handfull of enthusiasts on this board, mid-size wagons are just not what people think of when they think of performance.

However, a small wagon might be. The R32 was successful - maybe Subaru can have a more useful performance compact as well.

I know I'd love to see it. Especially with the sedan flares as was mentioned above!
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