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Old 09-12-2018, 08:41 AM   #1
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Hi All,

I have bought a set of 18" OEM Subaru wheels for my 2018 wrx. The new OEM wheels do have stock TPMS sensors in them but the light still ended up flashing with a warning for TPMS.

My questions is do I take the car in and have my original TPMS cloned? If so, is Subaru dealer the only place that can do this? Also, if I end up selling my OEM wheels with TPMS sensors still in them, will it cause issues for the other person buying them?

Thank your you help in advance.
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:05 AM   #2
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You're going to have to take the new wheels in and have dealership reset the tpms signal
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:06 AM   #3
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The ECU needs to be told the IDs of the new TPMS sensors.

Most tire shops can do it for free, in some cases, or for $10-20. The dealer is likely to charge some crazy price like $90-$100.

If the new sensors can be cloned that's an option, but it will probably cost more than just updating the ECU.
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:52 AM   #4
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The ECU needs to be told the IDs of the new TPMS sensors.

Most tire shops can do it for free, in some cases, or for $10-20. The dealer is likely to charge some crazy price like $90-$100.

If the new sensors can be cloned that's an option, but it will probably cost more than just updating the ECU.
Agreed, I have done it at the shop I work PT at. With current knowledge of the tool, takes about 4 minutes to scan the wheels, then plug in and program.
We do a couple newer Subies that swap rims twice a year for snows.
Swap wheels, scan, program, done.
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:11 AM   #5
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The shop that installed my aftermarket wheels swapped my OEM TPMS sensors to my new wheels as part of the install. No extra charge to swap them.
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:31 AM   #6
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The shop that installed my aftermarket wheels swapped my OEM TPMS sensors to my new wheels as part of the install. No extra charge to swap them.
Fine if doing a one time swap. For those with 2 sets, quick program is fine, no dealer needed but the tire shop needs a scanner/programmer.
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:04 PM   #7
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Most Discount Tire loctaions can clone TPMS sensors now. No need to reprogram when you swap anymore.
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Old 09-13-2018, 02:06 AM   #8
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I can vouch for discount tire, took them all of 5 minutes to reprogram my wheels
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Old 09-13-2018, 07:39 PM   #9
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I can vouch for discount tire, took them all of 5 minutes to reprogram my wheels
It's nice having two sets of wheels that have the same TPMS codes and not throw any warning lights when I switch between my summer and winter sets.
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Old 09-17-2018, 03:08 PM   #10
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Most Discount Tire loctaions can clone TPMS sensors now. No need to reprogram when you swap anymore.
wait, so can discount tire actually overwrite the ID on the tpms sensor w/ whatever ID you desire? or do they sell you a set of cloneable sensors?
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Old 09-17-2018, 03:44 PM   #11
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wait, so can discount tire actually overwrite the ID on the tpms sensor w/ whatever ID you desire? or do they sell you a set of cloneable sensors?
If this is true I don't know why the hell my dealer wouldn't just do that.
total pain having to get them programmed each season.
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Old 09-17-2018, 03:57 PM   #12
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wait, so can discount tire actually overwrite the ID on the tpms sensor w/ whatever ID you desire? or do they sell you a set of cloneable sensors?
Imma need an answer on that too.. can my OEM 2017 subaru TPMS sensors be reprogrammed to match a set of Subaru OEM 2019 WRX wheels? I think

I would still need to buy that $100 tool that wakes the sensors after they sit for several months?
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:37 PM   #13
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It's nice having two sets of wheels that have the same TPMS codes and not throw any warning lights when I switch between my summer and winter sets.
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wait, so can discount tire actually overwrite the ID on the tpms sensor w/ whatever ID you desire? or do they sell you a set of cloneable sensors?
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If this is true I don't know why the hell my dealer wouldn't just do that.
total pain having to get them programmed each season.
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Imma need an answer on that too.. can my OEM 2017 subaru TPMS sensors be reprogrammed to match a set of Subaru OEM 2019 WRX wheels? I think

I would still need to buy that $100 tool that wakes the sensors after they sit for several months?
While I am no "TPMS programming guru", in general, most TPMS sensors can be reprogrammed, many aftermarket sensors CAN be programmed.
Sorta easy for most, be nice to local tire shop so they program whatever sensors to your car when doing seasonable tire swaps.
Cloning OEM sensors can be OK, but can create issues if you swap ID's around the car. You get a low pressure alarm, low tire may be in a different spot. So.....back to programming a TPMS ID to a corner.

Sigh.
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:46 PM   #14
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My overall comment, make friends with a trusted local tire shop. You help them, they may help you.

Taken from a part timer at a shop that likes doing tires. They, and I, do TPMS swaps and programming.
A lot of times, a regular customer comes in to do a tire/wheel swap due to seasons, reprogramming the sensors is "maybe" a couple bucks above labor to swap 4 wheels.
A lot of times, the shop also stores your second set of wheels. Sorta depends on,if regular or not and other work (oil changes, etc.).
You help a small shop, maybe they help you.


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Old 09-17-2018, 07:18 PM   #15
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My overall comment, make friends with a trusted local tire shop. You help them, they may help you.

Taken from a part timer at a shop that likes doing tires. They, and I, do TPMS swaps and programming.
A lot of times, a regular customer comes in to do a tire/wheel swap due to seasons, reprogramming the sensors is "maybe" a couple bucks above labor to swap 4 wheels.
A lot of times, the shop also stores your second set of wheels. Sorta depends on,if regular or not and other work (oil changes, etc.).
You help a small shop, maybe they help you.


I don't have time to shoot the breeze with local tires shops nor should I have to grease their hands to get a deal on TPMS work. I don't understand your post.
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:21 PM   #16
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wait, so can discount tire actually overwrite the ID on the tpms sensor w/ whatever ID you desire? or do they sell you a set of cloneable sensors?
As long as the TPM sensor allows that. I had a new set cloned for my winter set so I never have to get anything reprogramed when swapping between winter/summer sets. All eight wheels have the same four codes programmed.

Now like Charlie stated if a sensor has to be in a specific location in the car then this may not work for your situation.
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Old 09-18-2018, 10:48 AM   #17
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I don't have time to shoot the breeze with local tires shops nor should I have to grease their hands to get a deal on TPMS work. I don't understand your post.
You should read it again, slower this time because it seemed pretty clear.

If you are a CUSTOMER a place will be more willing to do favors that they don't make a nickel on, you know, since you are a regular customer and they run a business and not a charity.

If you never spend a dollar supporting their business and want to stroll in and ask for a favor they probably won't, and shouldn't be interested.

Not sure what you do for work, but I'd go out on a limb and guess you don't work for free for random people wanting favors.
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:14 PM   #18
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As long as the TPM sensor allows that. I had a new set cloned for my winter set so I never have to get anything reprogramed when swapping between winter/summer sets. All eight wheels have the same four codes programmed.

Now like Charlie stated if a sensor has to be in a specific location in the car then this may not work for your situation.
Typically, tires do a have to be in a specific spot on the car.......unless.......the tire display shows each tire and you don't want to guess where the actual tire is on the car.
Early systems just showed a "low pressure alert", you had to check all tires (sometimes even the spare).
Newer systems show the pressure on each tire on a display from an overhead view.
But, it I stated only accurate if the correct TPMS ID is in the correct spot.
Still an easy fix.

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You should read it again, slower this time because it seemed pretty clear.

If you are a CUSTOMER a place will be more willing to do favors that they don't make a nickel on, you know, since you are a regular customer and they run a business and not a charity.

If you never spend a dollar supporting their business and want to stroll in and ask for a favor they probably won't, and shouldn't be interested.

Not sure what you do for work, but I'd go out on a limb and guess you don't work for free for random people wanting favors.
Yippee....., you get my point!


Example.....busy day at the shop, Joe Blow comes in with a flat. Maybe we swap on the spare, then say, "come back in an hour" to get the repaired tire. Then we likely swap it on and place the spare back.
Regular customer comes in, we may stop what we're doing and fix it then. Saves a trip.

Same for tire rotation, unknown peep comes in, we ask (and likely charge for) telling the display where the tire ID's are now.
Regular customer gets a tire swap, reprogramming is just done for no more cost.

Shop time and customer time both have a value. A shop wants to be fair to everyone that comes in, but will help out regulars where they can.

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You should read it again, slower this time because it seemed pretty clear.

If you are a CUSTOMER a place will be more willing to do favors that they don't make a nickel on, you know, since you are a regular customer and they run a business and not a charity.

If you never spend a dollar supporting their business and want to stroll in and ask for a favor they probably won't, and shouldn't be interested.

Not sure what you do for work, but I'd go out on a limb and guess you don't work for free for random people wanting favors.
What's the difference between a slut and a prostitute?
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Question Swapped one Wheel with one TPMS sensor.

I drive a 2019 WRX base.
Recently I have to change only one TPMS sensor on the Real Left wheel.
It's an aftermarket one, and I did not made the job by myself.
After driving a few miles the TPMS warning came up on the middle screen and the symbol blinked several times till it becomes solid lit. Checked pressure and was 3psi above recommended. So I assume this particular sensor must be readressed again.
My Question:
How to turn Learning Mode on my car to readress this TPMS?
Already tried to turn ignition on "ON" position, look for a TPMS button behind glove box, and by the menu when using buttons beneath steering wheel.... Nothing...
I need some help on this particular issue to do it by myself. Also I tried the VXDAS Relearn tool.
I appreciate your feedback
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Old 06-01-2021, 12:59 PM   #22
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Your new TPMS needs to be programmed to the car, so it can identify it correctly. Take it back to wherever you got it installed and ask them to code it in correctly. Or take to to Discount Tires, they will do this for free and all it takes is a few minutes with the correct scanner/updater tool.

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I drive a 2019 WRX base.
Recently I have to change only one TPMS sensor on the Real Left wheel.
It's an aftermarket one, and I did not made the job by myself.
After driving a few miles the TPMS warning came up on the middle screen and the symbol blinked several times till it becomes solid lit. Checked pressure and was 3psi above recommended. So I assume this particular sensor must be readressed again.
My Question:
How to turn Learning Mode on my car to readress this TPMS?
Already tried to turn ignition on "ON" position, look for a TPMS button behind glove box, and by the menu when using buttons beneath steering wheel.... Nothing...
I need some help on this particular issue to do it by myself. Also I tried the VXDAS Relearn tool.
I appreciate your feedback
Thank You.
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