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Old 09-13-2002, 02:42 PM   #1
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Default so i'm ready to buy my very first mod....

and ive searched and researched, went to shops and gained alot of head knowledge but im still up in the air as to what the very first mod should be.

seems like people try to sell what they have, and other products that their shop dont stock, but other shops do, is automatically crap. just trying to sell parts i guess.

i really wanted to just start with a simple intake, but ive heard a better starting point is to free-up the exhaust side first. do either REALLY need the unichip if it was the only mod (like a CAI w/o chip or a cat-back w/o chip)?

if i had a few grand to spend this time 'round id for sure get like a cobb club spec or vishnu stage 0. i kinda want to stay around $500 for my first mod though. im a racer on a budget
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Old 09-13-2002, 02:57 PM   #2
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You do not need to have a uni-chip for awhile. Especially if you are going to continue to mod your car. Every time you do a mod you will have to send your unichip back to get it re-tuned. It was one of my last power mods. You can always get the u-tek from turboXS which is basically a programable uni-chip. Anyway you are not there yet.

My best advice is to just get the stage 0 for $1,000. Well worth the money. Chip, up-pipe, cold plugs, mbc, and pulleys I believe.

You can get a Manual boost controller for cheap and they are very, very effective. Don't believe all those horror stories about it will blow your engine. Blowing your engine is basically up to you if you decide to turn it up too high. I didn't notice very much power gains with my cold air intake but I noticed gains when I put on my cat-back and especially when I put on my downpipe.

If I had $500 bucks I'd get the mbc ($100) for a good one. And a Downpipe for $400. You will be happy.
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Old 09-13-2002, 03:13 PM   #3
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so running a boost controller wont introduce lean situations if thats one of the only mods you have? what does the stock computer cut off boost @ ?

my original plan was to get intake, cat back, boost controller, downpipe/uppipe...in this order. then to get a chip. but i hear so much stories of an intake alone is bad, or uppipe/downpipe alone is bad. so im just trying to make the most informed decision possible.

thanks for your reply.
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Old 09-13-2002, 03:21 PM   #4
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Don't give in to the horror stories, I've known guys who've started with the intake and others with the mbc or with the exhaust with absolutely no problems.

Yes increasing the boost will lean your car out a little, but your car runs very rich so it really won't have any detrimental effects. Fuel cut on the stock ecu is around 17.5 lbs of boost. The majority of people on this club who run mbc's are running 15-16 pounds daily. If you want to be very safe run 12-14 lbs. Keep in mind your stock boost controller runs 7 lbs and peaks at 11 lbs if you are really on it, so you'll notice huge improvements.

Actually the order of mods you want exactly matched my first 5 mods. You've been doing your homework. But if I could do it over, I'd get the stage 0.

And by the way, don't pay any shop to install stuff here on island. Other club members are more than willing to help put that stuff in for free just to meet you and drink your beer.
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Old 09-13-2002, 05:13 PM   #5
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Since I'm still more or less starting out myself, my advice would only be to listen to REXSTANG, or anyone else in the Master crew...which, to me is 18hr, MACHV, Sub-Sonic, V-rod, ShinRS and NoLimit. There are many other masters, but these are the guys I know. For starting out and even beyond, these guys will not steer you wrong. They've already learned through trial and error what to do and what not to do.

For instance, MACHV told me turbo back and CAI to start off. I can't tell you how amazed I was/am at the results. I got much more out of an already quick and fast car.

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Old 09-13-2002, 09:11 PM   #6
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for $500, try going with an intake, MBC, and boost gauge. You will Not be disappointed. You will Not have anything to worry about either(as far as hurting your car).

if you can drive good, those mods will get you in the low 14 range in the 1/4 mile.

'stock' boost in first and second gear only peaks at about 10-12lbs, then you'll get 14lbs or so max in the rest of the gears, 'stock'. about 14.5lbs is usually max stock boost.

with a mbc set at 15lbs, you'll see that in every gear(more or less), and you will "Definitely" fall in love with BoOsT!!!!!!

you can get all three of those, on island, for about $500.
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Old 09-14-2002, 04:19 AM   #7
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I still believe the FIRST mod on any turbo car is a turbo timer.-Scu
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Old 09-14-2002, 04:58 AM   #8
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thanks everyone for your replies. sounds like an intake and boost controller it is.
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Old 09-14-2002, 07:08 AM   #9
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and a boost gauge!
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Old 09-14-2002, 03:26 PM   #10
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of course.
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Old 09-14-2002, 07:59 PM   #11
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for $500, try going with an intake, MBC, and boost gauge. You will Not be disappointed. You will Not have anything to worry about either(as far as hurting your car).
NoLimit's right these were the only mods I had for almost the first year, and I ran 14.1's every time I went to the track. I was very happy.....at first more power!!!!!
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Old 09-14-2002, 08:04 PM   #12
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and ive searched and researched, went to shops and gained alot of head knowledge but im still up in the air as to what the very first mod should be.

seems like people try to sell what they have, and other products that their shop dont stock, but other shops do, is automatically crap. just trying to sell parts i guess.

i really wanted to just start with a simple intake, but ive heard a better starting point is to free-up the exhaust side first. do either REALLY need the unichip if it was the only mod (like a CAI w/o chip or a cat-back w/o chip)?

if i had a few grand to spend this time 'round id for sure get like a cobb club spec or vishnu stage 0. i kinda want to stay around $500 for my first mod though. im a racer on a budget

ok lemme give you my story

so even before i bought my car, i had a FULL list of stuff i was gonna buy. new turbo, full exhaust setup, on and on...

then i got my car and loved it and drove around for a few thousand and a couple of months. then i added a nice sound exhaust. then a turbo timer and boost gauge. then a boost controller. now im going to be purchasing wheels/tires and a better audio system. soon i will plop down the money for a stage 0 system. ive also done little cosmetic stuff (blue ibadge, debadge trunk and STi scoop on order).

so my advice is just to drive your car around for awhile and really decided what you want. i figured, as fun as it would be, im going to take a good amount of time and just have fun stock, and then start upgrading for a 'well rounded car' maybe you get sick of your wheels, decided you want more grip, maybe your audio is crap or you cant live without 350hp. then upgrade. but you would be amazed at how little things really make a difference.
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Old 09-15-2002, 03:10 AM   #13
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if i had 500 bucks first thing i would buy would be plate lunch at L&L's
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Old 09-15-2002, 03:18 AM   #14
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which L&L you eatin at? better have at least 999 scoops rice for 500 bucks!

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Old 09-15-2002, 04:51 AM   #15
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ok lemme give you my story

so even before i bought my car, i had a FULL list of stuff i was gonna buy. new turbo, full exhaust setup, on and on...

then i got my car and loved it and drove around for a few thousand and a couple of months. then i added a nice sound exhaust. then a turbo timer and boost gauge. then a boost controller. now im going to be purchasing wheels/tires and a better audio system. soon i will plop down the money for a stage 0 system. ive also done little cosmetic stuff (blue ibadge, debadge trunk and STi scoop on order).

so my advice is just to drive your car around for awhile and really decided what you want. i figured, as fun as it would be, im going to take a good amount of time and just have fun stock, and then start upgrading for a 'well rounded car' maybe you get sick of your wheels, decided you want more grip, maybe your audio is crap or you cant live without 350hp. then upgrade. but you would be amazed at how little things really make a difference.

i know parts needed to mod a car, this isnt my first project. im just unfamiliar with this car, and considering i need to keep the car alive for the next five years i may as well do it right. as far as deciding what i want thats really easy...picking the right brands and crap gives me a hard time sometimes....its like there's so many similar products just mfg. by different companies.

plus alot of places tell you what sounds best to sell their products....aka b.s.
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Old 09-15-2002, 04:31 PM   #16
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Come out to any of the track days, tons of Subies around. Most every one is modded a little differently, listen to how each exhaust sounds different, what different rims and tires look like on the cars, and all the different electronics people are using and you may get a better idea of where you want to go and what you want to buy. Its like a mini Subie car show.
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Old 09-15-2002, 04:58 PM   #17
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i know parts needed to mod a car, this isnt my first project. im just unfamiliar with this car, and considering i need to keep the car alive for the next five years i may as well do it right. as far as deciding what i want thats really easy...picking the right brands and crap gives me a hard time sometimes....its like there's so many similar products just mfg. by different companies.

plus alot of places tell you what sounds best to sell their products....aka b.s.

well what do u want?

all the tuned combo systems (vishnu, cobb, txs) are great paths because alot of people use them, they come with dyno graphs, and they are built for daily driving as well as track days.

i dunno your level of expertise, or what you are looking for, but my best advice, as im sure most would agree, the life of your vehicle is dependant on how you drive, not what you drive
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Old 09-17-2002, 03:33 AM   #18
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ok so i bought a boost guage, controller and intake, now all i'm missing is the car. its in the body shop till next week. but then its on.....

i have questions about installing the boost controller and gauge though. theres a new thread for it on the hawaii page that says "can any one tell me..." and if anyone could tell me well then id really appreciate that.
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