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Old 05-09-2019, 12:42 PM   #301
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It looked like that during the Olympics too
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Maybe they should stay in Sao Paulo. It looks safer there.
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:47 AM   #304
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Didn't Jenson Button get robbed a few years ago in Sao Paulo?
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Old 05-10-2019, 02:33 PM   #305
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Almost, but it sounds harrowing.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...tack-sao-paulo

And it seems to happen every single year.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/b...77477/1377961/
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this is not the sanitization F1 needs to head towards.
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Old 05-11-2019, 02:21 PM   #307
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The underdogs somehow managed to just barely pull another front row lockout out of the hat.



3 straight poles for Bottas. Super impressed with him this year. - Captain Obvious
Still, it took Rosberg everything in his arsenal and some bad luck on Lewis' side to eek out a WDC from under his nose. So far, Bottas is showing he has the strength to do the same. It's all about the start and run to the first corner tomorrow.
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Old 05-11-2019, 06:49 PM   #308
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is it just me, or is news coverage declining? I used to get a solid 6+ articles (qualifying, drivers reaction, team specific news, incident specific news) from espn, and now I'm struggling to find more than 2 after qualifying.
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Old 05-11-2019, 06:50 PM   #309
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to be honest, there´s nothing of worth to report
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This is starting to turn into another 2014 season.
Only way if Ferrari has a chance if Both Mercedes cars take each other out ( Like 2016)
Well both Haas's are in the top 10. Lets see if they can score this time.
Kubica and Russell swapped chassis and Kubica still got out qualified.

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Another Mercedes 1-2.
5 in a row
At least Haas got some points.
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Pos Driver Team
1 Hamilton Mercedes 66
2 Bottas Mercedes 66
3 Verstappen Red Bull 66
4 Vettel Ferrari 66
5 Leclerc Ferrari 66
6 Gasly Red Bull 66
7 Magnussen Haas 66
8 Sainz McLaren 66
9 Kvyat Toro Rosso 66
10 Grosjean Haas 66
11 Albon Toro Rosso 66
12 Ricciardo Renault 66
13 Hulkenberg Renault 66
14 Raikkonen Alfa Romeo 66
15 Perez Racing Point 66
16 Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo 66
17 Russell Williams 65 + 1 Lap
18 Kubica Williams 65 + 1 Lap
Stroll Racing Point 44
Norris McLaren 44

Mercedes win in a total rout
Again Ferrari: sloppy pit stops, questionable strategy.
Williams get lapped by lap 20
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I feel bad watching Kimi and D. Riccardo go from top 3 teams to bottom 3 teams. They're both talented drivers wasting away. Kimi I can see retiring at the end of this year. I just hope Renault can get their crap together.

Also, F1 Fan Experierience at Soldier Field June 8th. I'll be there, too bad since it's during quali for Canada, any drivers we meet will be former or future drivers. Fernando Alonso would be cool.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...tOklRc2mP.html
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It's all about the start and run to the first corner tomorrow.


Win the first corner, win the race.

Last year Ferrari at least kept it competitive until the mid-season. This year, they don't have a prayer and are battling more with Red Bull lately than Mercedes.
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Yep, and they finally admitted it too.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...wrong/4387513/

The Italian outfit had hoped that an aerodynamic and engine upgrade introduced for Barcelona last weekend would help lift its form and allow it to beat Mercedes.

But it endured another tough weekend as Mercedes was untouchable and it failed to finish on the podium after Max Verstappen grabbed third place for Red Bull.

Ferrari team boss Mattia Binotto said an investigation was now under way to get to the bottom of its struggles, as he says the team may have to concede that the concept it adopted this year was wrong.

When the 2019 cars were launched, Mercedes and Ferrari took totally different paths with their front wing designs. Mercedes had opted for a high-downforce solution, while Ferrari had taken a route to better manage outwash and improve efficiency.

But with Ferrari aware that it was slower on all corners in Barcelona, it now has to urgently address what has gone wrong.

"We are losing a lot in each corner, not only in the last sector, it is each single corner we are slow," said Binotto. "[There is] quite a lot of understeer. Is that only downforce or is it more than that? That is something that we really need to analyse and understand.

"Any conclusion today will be a wrong conclusion. It will take some days to really have a proper analysis and try to understand: is it a matter of balance, is it a matter of downforce, is it maybe even car concept? I don't know. I think we do not have the answer and I would like not to go through it."

Earlier this year, when Mercedes appeared to be having difficulties in testing, the team said it would months to switch to another concept with his car.

That timescale would dent Ferrari's hopes of a quick fightback, but Binotto believes that action can be taken this year.

Asked if it would be a disaster if the team finds it got its concept wrong, he said: "I don't think it is a disaster by the time that you are improving as a team. And as I often say, we are a young team, we are learning on a learning phase.

"I think that in terms of process and methodology there is still much to learn and I am pretty happy by the time the team is improving. If it is a concept design then it obviously depends what it is, but I think there are things that you may address within a season."

Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff thinks that an explanation for the turnaround in form from testing to now may be explained by how the higher downforce concept allows room for more development without upsetting the car balance.

"I think it's definitely an interesting thought, because when you see who was in the front in winter testing it's very different to the ones that are in the front today - even if you look at the fights in the midfield," he explained.

"It was two different aerodynamic concepts and maybe there is a certain truth in it. But then there is never one question and one answer in Formula 1, or a silver bullet that justifies good or bad performance. I think it is about developing the car, keeping the development slope high."
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Binotto isn´t capable being the team captain; he may be a good leading hand in the engine department, that´s it.
Ferrari don´t have an aerodynamic problem, their biggest problem is the lack of mechanical grip in slow and not so fast corners.
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It's tough to keep bashing Ferrari for yet another strategy error when the car isn't competitive enough to matter. Not fast enough to win, but not slow enough to finish below 5th without driver errors on top of strategy failures.
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Its easy to bash Ferrari, but if not for that safety car the results likely would have been a lot different. If Stroll doesn't take out Norris and Norris bring half the beach out on the track, Ham doesn't get a free pit stop and there is a reasonable chance the race finished Max, Vet, Lec. Mercedes is killing it in all phases of the game including getting lucky when they need it.
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Its easy to bash Ferrari, but if not for that safety car the results likely would have been a lot different. If Stroll doesn't take out Norris and Norris bring half the beach out on the track, Ham doesn't get a free pit stop and there is a reasonable chance the race finished Max, Vet, Lec. Mercedes is killing it in all phases of the game including getting lucky when they need it.
I'm very confused. Isn't that exactly how it played out?

I'm pretty sure we're right to bash Ferrari for poor pit stops, strategy and of course not swapping drivers at the right time.
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Zandvoort in for 2020 supposedly

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Formula 1 is delighted to announce that the Dutch Grand Prix returns to the FIA Formula 1 World Championship from 2020. An agreement has recently been signed between Formula 1 and Dutch Grand Prix - a partnership formed by SportVibes, TIG Sports and the Circuit Zandvoort - and will run for at least three years.

Furthermore, Heineken, one of the longstanding Global Partners of Formula 1, will be the Title Sponsor of the event.

Situated not far from the vibrant city of Amsterdam, Zandvoort is a major beach resort in the Netherlands, known for its long beach bordered by magnificent coastal dunes separating the North Sea from the track. The Circuit of Zandvoort has a long history as a Formula 1 venue, and over the coming months, the facility will be rebuilt with help from Zandvoort town council and several other partners. The track and the infrastucture will be modified in order to meet the standards laid out by the FIA in order to host a Formula 1 World Championship event.

When the 2020 race takes place, it will be the 31st Dutch Grand Prix to count as a round of the World Championship. It was first held in 1952, when it was won by a Ferrari, driven by Alberto Ascari, who went on to win the world championship that year. Apart from the Italian, there were a further 19 winners, of which 12 were also world champions. Jim Clark holds the outright record with four wins to his name. The last Dutch Grand Prix took place in 1985 and will return next year as Formula 1 Heineken Dutch Grand Prix 2020.

Chase Carey, Chairman and CEO, Formula 1, said: "We are particularly pleased to announce that Formula 1 is returning to race in the Netherlands, at the Zandvoort track. From the beginning of our tenure in Formula 1, we said we wanted to race in new venues, while also respecting the sport's historic roots in Europe. Next season therefore, we will have a brand new street race that will be held in the Vietnamese capital of Hanoi, as well the return to Zandvoort, after an absence of 35 years; a track that has contributed to the popularity of the sport all over the world. In recent years, we've seen a resurgence of interest in Formula 1 in Holland, mainly due to the enthusiastic support for the talented Max Verstappen, as seen from the sea of orange at so many races. No doubt this will be the dominant colour in the Zandvoort grandstands next year."

Jean Todt, President of the FIA, said: "I am pleased to see that Zandvoort will be part of the proposed calendar for the 2020 FIA Formula One World Championship, and thankful for the hard work of Formula 1 to bring the sport back to the Netherlands. It is a circuit with a long and impressive history of competition and is a great challenge for drivers, and with the popularity of Max Verstappen I'm sure there will be a huge number of fans in attendance. There is now a lot of preparation needed to bring the circuit up to the required safety standards to host a Formula 1 race, and we will work towards this together with Formula 1, KNAF - the Dutch ASN - and the circuit organisation."

Jan Lammers, DGP Sporting Director, said: "The Zandvoort Circuit is legendary and known worldwide and we're delighted to see it host a round of the FIA Formula One World Championship once again. To meet the wishes of Formula 1 and the required standards of the FIA the circuit and infrastructure will be modernized within a few areas, with the work completed well ahead of the race in 2020. In addition, the municipality of Zandvoort has recently invested heavily to improve access to the municipality and the circuit."
And it sounds like Mexico and Spain are out with Vietnam in. Yeesh...
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Alonso fails to qualify for Indy 500.

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/n...y-500/4392236/

Alonso has set his sights on winning the Indy 500 to secure motor racing's Triple Crown, but his plans to achieve that feat this year were wrecked on Sunday night when he failed to secure one of the final three spots in the starting line-up.

His last-ditch effort of 227.353mph was pipped right at the end by Kyle Kaiser in the Juncos Racing car, whose 227.372mph was enough to secure him the final spot on the grid.

While McLaren sporting director Gil de Ferran has openly apologised to Alonso for not giving him a car that was quick enough to allow him to qualify, Brown is clear that the outfit can only blame itself for what happened.

Posting on social media, Brown wrote: "Incredibly disappointed for the fans, our team, our partners and Fernando that we will not be racing in the Indy500 this year.

"It was always going to be a hard road but no excuses - we didn't get the job done. Credit and respect to those who did.

"I'm sorry we couldn't put McLaren and Fernando in the race. The team put their heart and soul into it and I thank them. We know where we went wrong and we'll fix it."

De Ferran told media on Sunday night that Alonso's failure to qualify was the most painful experience of his racing career, but is adamant that the team will regroup and return for another effort in 2020.
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Failing to make the top 33 in a 36 car shootout is pretty damn bad for a team and driver combo of McLaren and Alonso.
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Total embarrassment for McLaren.
Then they were going to try to buy a seat for Alonso but he said no.

https://apnews.com/a8653967a9714ac7a9a3ba576f712fff

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — The comedy of errors that doomed McLaren’s disastrous return to the Indianapolis 500 began months before Fernando Alonso failed to qualify for the race. How bad was it? A week before Alonso’s first test in the car, the team realized it didn’t even have a steering wheel.

McLaren CEO Zak Brown acknowledged Monday the team was woefully unprepared and small oversights snowballed into the final result. Bob Fernley, the head of the operation, was fired hours after Alonso missed the race and Brown returned to England to digest the embarrassment of his venture.


Brown on Monday provided The Associated Press a detailed timeline of the bloopers and blunders that led to Alonso missing the race, the last piece the two-time Formula One champion needs in his quest to win motorsports’ version of the Triple Crown.

“I don’t think we came into this arrogant, I think we were unprepared,” Brown said. “We didn’t deserve to be in the race and it’s our own fault. It’s not like we showed up and gave our best. We defeated ourselves.”

The path to missing the 33-driver field began when the car was not ready the moment Texas Motor Speedway opened for the April test. Brown had personally secured a steering wheel the previous week from Cosworth to use for the test, and the mistakes piled up from there.

“We didn’t get out until midday, our steering wheel was not done on time, that’s just lack of preparation and project management organizational skills,” Brown said. “That’s where this whole thing fell down, in the project management. Zak Brown should not be digging around for steering wheels.”

A cosmetic issue at the Texas test haunted McLaren deep into last week at Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

McLaren purchased a car from technical partner Carlin, and though the car was orange when McLaren received it, it was not the proper McLaren “papaya orange.” It had to be repainted after the test, and that still had not been completed when Alonso crashed his McLaren-built car last Wednesday.

The Carlin spare was in a paint shop 30 minutes from the track, more than a month after McLaren complained about the color, and it ultimately cost McLaren almost two full days of track time. The team looked foolish as other teams were able to move into backup cars in mere hours; James Hinchcliffe crashed in Saturday qualifying and was back on track in his spare that afternoon.


Carlin was a two-car team when McLaren made its alliance but expanded to three for the Indy 500. Once Carlin took on the extra work, Brown said, the team had few resources to give McLaren.

“It was clear they weren’t capable of running three cars and serving us,” he said. Carlin entrants Max Chilton and Patricio O’Ward were the two other drivers who failed to qualify.

McLaren’s poor showing is one of the biggest failures in Indy 500 history. Roger Penske missed the show with Al Unser Jr. and Emerson Fittipaldi in 1995, a year after dominating the race. Reigning CART champion Bobby Rahal missed it in 1993, and two-time Indy winner Rodger Ward never got up to speed to make the 1965 field.

The McLaren budget for this Indy 500 was strong, every sponsorship opportunity had been sold and the venture was a guaranteed commercial success for McLaren. Brown was somewhat hands-off and focused on the critical rebuild of the Formula One part of the program. He now laments waiting too long to become heavily involved with the Indy 500 effort. He also believes he was too slow in assigning McLaren sporting director Gil de Ferran, a former Indy 500 winner, oversight of the program.

“I should have been closer to Indy but I could never compromise Formula One,” Brown said. “At 9:01 in the morning when we weren’t on track at the first test, that’s when we failed to qualify for the Indianapolis 500. We didn’t ring the fire alarm quick enough because we could have recovered after the first test.

“I am angry at myself because I was uncomfortable all the way up to the first test and I should have followed my instinct to get more involved.”

Many of the issues were beyond Brown’s control.

The car had an electrical issue in last month’s test at Indy and an employee was taken off the team for the error. Alonso had another electrical issue on opening day for the 500 and the alternator and wiring loom had to be replaced. Alonso crashed on the second day, and McLaren missed all of Day 3 rebuilding the spare from Carlin that was finally the proper shade of orange.

Fast Friday showed the car still needed speed, and Alonso went into qualifying on shaky ground. His first qualifying run was sabotaged by a tire puncture — which wasn’t detected beforehand because Brown said the team had purchased incorrect tire sensors.

Alonso wound up one of six drivers in the “Last Row Shootout” on Sunday and the panicked McLaren team begged and borrowed across the paddock for any assistance available. Alonso went out to practice Sunday with an entirely new setup, but in the frantic changeover a mistake was made in converting inches to the metric system the English team uses and the car scraped and sparked on his first lap. It had to be fixed and Alonso got in just five more laps before rain ended the session.

When it came time for Alonso to make his final last-gasp qualifying attempt late Sunday afternoon, the Spaniard was given a car that Brown and de Ferran were concerned might not perform.

“Gil and I went to the motorhome and told Fernando: ‘We are going to try this, but this could go well or really wrong. Are you comfortable?’” Brown said. “And Fernando said, ‘Let’s go for it.’”

Alonso agreed that he never backed away from the challenge.

“We went out with an experiment that we did overnight. We changed everything on the car because we thought that maybe we need something from the mental side different to go into the race with some confidence,” Alonso said. “We went out not knowing what the car will do in Turn 1, but you’re still flat. So we tried.”

The new setup and assistance from other teams indeed got the car up to speed, but Alonso was knocked from the field by 23-year-old Kyle Kaiser of tiny Juncos Racing. McLaren discovered after the qualifying run that the car had the wrong gear ratio setup.

“We actually had a 229 (mph) car but we had 227.5 gearing, so we beat ourselves again while we almost made it,” Brown said. “We really did put it all on the line and you could feel the anxiety. There was some real heroism in that. I don’t want the world to think McLaren is a bunch of idiots because while we did have a few, we had some real stars.”

Alonso has rejected an offer from the team to purchase a seat in the Indy 500 field for him.

What’s next is a careful lookback as Brown figures out McLaren’s future at both the Indy 500 and the IndyCar Series. He still wants to field two full-time entries in the series but isn’t sure yet how much of a setback this has been. He believes McLaren will be back next year at Indy for a second chance.

“I feel an obligation to the fans and sponsors, we let them down. We didn’t fulfill our promise and I think they need more than just an apology,” Brown said. “There will be repercussions for those who don’t deserve to work for a great team like McLaren. We will look at what we learned here and the list is a mile long. I hope people appreciate that we go for it, we are racers, and Fernando is a star and we are not quitters. We want to come back.”
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