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Old 04-15-2010, 01:56 PM   #1
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Elevation: 660FT


Car: 2005 STI
Tuner: Jorge
Dyno Info: DynoJet 224/248
Transmission: 04-06 6MT
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: 250
Target Boost: 19-20 PSI Pump / 25-26 Q16
Target AFR: 11's
Fuel: Pump Gas 93 / Q16

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278 cams / ported heads
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Reverse Manifold FMIC
AEM EMS

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A lot of the other details of under wraps, but we always tend to use 300lb/ft as a reference to how laggy something is or isn't.

This car, on a VF39/stage2, would cross that threshold near 3100 RPM.

We're now 300 RPM off that mark and still on the stupidly conservative side.

More details to come later, but we thought we'd show that solid, conservative tuning can make great power! Even in almost 100F temperatures!

-Jorge



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Old 04-15-2010, 02:18 PM   #2
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The build sheet is stout, and the numbers speak for themselves. This pretty much answered the questions I had about big TS setups on the boxer motors. Supreme.

Plans for any more boost? 30# would be, steep!
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Old 04-15-2010, 02:22 PM   #3
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Well... keep in mind, those are almost 100F, uncorrected numbers.... and I breath the "less is more" attitude. Outside, that 575 is an easy 600+, on "low boost"... I call that a massively over engineered solution that will last (which is really the overall mandate for the car).

Numbers... for me, are a very VERY distant second.

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Old 04-15-2010, 02:23 PM   #4
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Thats great spool and power!
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Old 04-15-2010, 02:32 PM   #5
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Well... keep in mind, those are almost 100F, uncorrected numbers.... and I breath the "less is more" attitude. Outside, that 575 is an easy 600+, on "low boost"... I call that a massively over engineered solution that will last (which is really the overall mandate for the car).

Numbers... for me, are a very VERY distant second.

-Jorge
Numbers are digits, and nothing more. The 100F is very telling of what the car will see I'm guessing, so I find no issue in that skewing anything. Over engineered, long lasting setup sounds like an insane DD, TA car or something in between?

Here's to wishing I had money. Or at least more power.
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Old 04-15-2010, 02:38 PM   #6
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This is what I am talking about , I can't wait for mine
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:24 PM   #7
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Omfg !!
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:31 PM   #8
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Looking great! What's the displacement on that engine?

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Old 04-15-2010, 03:44 PM   #9
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Looking great! What's the displacement on that engine?

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Looks like a v8

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What injectors?

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Old 04-15-2010, 04:16 PM   #10
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truly impressive, spool and area under the curve are just mind boggling; not to mention it holds it until redline

there is just always a lot of torque in that car, holds ~400wtrq for 3,500 span of rpm
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Old 04-15-2010, 04:23 PM   #11
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well done, i have to agree the spool is insane
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Old 04-15-2010, 05:06 PM   #12
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well done, i have to agree the spool is insane
Not to take anything away from Jorge or the car, but you guys have to remember that this is a stroked motor. Bigger displacement really helps in the spool department .

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Old 04-15-2010, 05:34 PM   #13
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200 lb-ft before 3000rpm, absolutely outstanding. well done!!!
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Old 04-15-2010, 05:40 PM   #14
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That's a sick Dyno Chart!
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Old 04-15-2010, 06:15 PM   #15
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Nice work! That torque curve is very flat. Looks like it would be an insanely fun car. What gear was that dyno taken in?
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Old 04-15-2010, 06:40 PM   #16
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I love your tunes Jorge, so smooth, looks a lot like my graph........only 300whp more lol.
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Old 04-15-2010, 06:54 PM   #17
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I'd say so! dyno reading 94 degrees! Sick power!
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I love your tunes Jorge, so smooth,
well.....if you take any dyno plot.....stretch it horizontally.....then compress it vertically......and make your shop logo as big as the plot....thats usually the result i've been givin jorge crap about that since 1803.

go look at a dynapack plot, they are just the opposite....tall and skinny. and they look horrible 99% of the time.
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Old 04-15-2010, 07:30 PM   #19
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Not to take anything away from Jorge or the car, but you guys have to remember that this is a stroked motor. Bigger displacement really helps in the spool department .

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stroked to what? 2.7L

All the 2.7Ls I have seen here r pathetic with single scroll 35r
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200 lb-ft before 3000rpm, absolutely outstanding. well done!!!
Its funny, Geoff and I were going over a very similar setup just a few days ago. I am 100% this is the turbo for me! Great job, fun car!
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stroked to what? 2.7L

All the 2.7Ls I have seen here r pathetic with single scroll 35r
Is this your definition of pathetic?

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Find a plot from a regular tuner, not one who is trying to sell their product.



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Old 04-15-2010, 09:40 PM   #24
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Old 04-15-2010, 09:57 PM   #25
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Is this your definition of pathetic?
Well I just so that thread on IWSTI thats a TA car, the back housing .82ar

This is probably 1.00 AR.

Don't worry we will have some more 2.5L with 83-75 coming soon we will have plenty of data.
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