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Old 05-21-2018, 12:34 AM   #1
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Hello all, long time Impreza fan but this is my first time posting here. I have loved these cars since I was in high school and I think I'm finally (financially) in a place that I can afford one and the maintenance that comes with it. I know my way around engines and have done most of the work on my own cars, never on a flat four but I have been doing research on the EJ platform for years on and off. I have a relatively long history with driving manual performance cars, built boosted integra, 350z plenum and light mods, boosted rx-8 (huge mistake), built boosted prelude h22 the list goes on but I always looked at the STI as my attainable dream car. I was hoping some of you NASIOC gurus could give me some tips on what to look for when buying a used STI. I am looking to get one with a built block only, I realize that's very unlikely so I'm ok with some mods as well. Reason is I would like to do the majority of the work myself so I can get to know my way around these beauties but the cost difference of me buying the car + building the motor as opposed to buying one that's already been built is a huge difference. Looking around it seems the stock cars sell for as much as or more than built ones so financially this makes the most sense to me. So if anyone has any input on red flags, green lights, parts or mods to avoid, questions to ask the seller, or any other general tips to aid me in my search they would be hugely appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Oh forgot to mention my favorite years are 2004 and 2007 so that's primarily where I'll be looking with consideration for 08 hatch as well.

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Old 05-21-2018, 10:50 AM   #2
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Your observation is correct although I'm going to reword it. Stock Subarus often sell for more than modified ones because the expertise of the person doing the modification and implementation has huge ramifications. Put an E cam and big mass air meter and intake on an old Ford 302.....big deal. Do intake changes on a Subaru....boom!

The culture with Subarus is also to de-mod to get rid of a car.....especially to a dealer. So you've got a broken ring land? De-mod, bring it to car max and dump it on them.

This is why you MUST have a subaru specialist shop look at any turbo subaru and do extensive tests before even considering a modded car. If you look around here for a while, it won't be long before you run into threads of "I just bought a 9 bajillion horsepower STi of my dreams and on the way home, it started making metallic clanging sounds coming from inside the engine".

Now, you can indeed get a bargain on a used, modded Subaru. There are plenty of cars where the owner spent enough money that they could simply have bought a GT-R and been both faster and more reliable than what they ended up with. I'll admit to having bought a modded WRX in my past. I had it pre-purchase inspected and after buying, pulled some money, taking out the useless shock tower braces, rally armor, some gauges and lots of random added trim items. You might do a similar thing with a modded Subaru.

Good luck.
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Old 05-22-2018, 01:06 AM   #3
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Your observation is correct although I'm going to reword it. Stock Subarus often sell for more than modified ones because the expertise of the person doing the modification and implementation has huge ramifications. Put an E cam and big mass air meter and intake on an old Ford 302.....big deal. Do intake changes on a Subaru....boom!

The culture with Subarus is also to de-mod to get rid of a car.....especially to a dealer. So you've got a broken ring land? De-mod, bring it to car max and dump it on them.

This is why you MUST have a subaru specialist shop look at any turbo subaru and do extensive tests before even considering a modded car. If you look around here for a while, it won't be long before you run into threads of "I just bought a 9 bajillion horsepower STi of my dreams and on the way home, it started making metallic clanging sounds coming from inside the engine".

Now, you can indeed get a bargain on a used, modded Subaru. There are plenty of cars where the owner spent enough money that they could simply have bought a GT-R and been both faster and more reliable than what they ended up with. I'll admit to having bought a modded WRX in my past. I had it pre-purchase inspected and after buying, pulled some money, taking out the useless shock tower braces, rally armor, some gauges and lots of random added trim items. You might do a similar thing with a modded Subaru.

Good luck.
Thanks for the input Jack! I have been doing some searching and have found several candidates. My favorite one of the lot is an 07 which I know the owner took immaculate care of. My concern is he stated that there is an oil consumption problem, as in he tops it off every couple of tank fills. I'll have to ask him how much he has to put in. He also said the knock sensor bumps 1.7-4.2 during normal driving but just for a second and states that this and the oil consumption is normal for forged pistons due to the greater sidewall clearance. He sent me a video of a cold start and it didn't have the trademark knock "diesel sound" and on the cold start didn't register any knock on the AP which is strange as all my research says its worst on cold start and better once the engine warms up and pistons expand. If anyone has any other ideas what could cause these things or any input on whether this is normal or potentially damaging to the engine I would love to hear it. Also noted that there was no white smoke from the exhaust (he had the camera on the exhaust on a couple of revs) Thanks again!
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