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Old 09-10-2021, 04:55 PM   #76
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Yeah I've seen reports of the IS500 starting at 57.5K

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...t-test-review/

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

This car is more M340i fighter than M3 fighter.

The RWD M340i sedan starts at 54.7K, so it's very close to the IS500 pricing.
Not to mention that Toyota/Lexus tends to be less focused on expensive a la carte options than the German alternatives. I'm always surprised about how many options are required when I spec out an already expensive euro luxury car.
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Old 09-11-2021, 05:24 PM   #77
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Old 09-11-2021, 08:11 PM   #78
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Yeah, there's a lot of options like moonroof, Mark Levinson etc - so $62k is probably one with a few options.

I'd buy it in a heartbeat if it had a manual, or maybe even a DCT. As is I'd probably pick something else.
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Old 09-11-2021, 08:19 PM   #79
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In a world where a 2020 STI limited costs $42,000 -- Yeah, I think a Lexus sedan with a screaming NA 471hp V8 is probably worth $62,000.
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At $57,575 including destination, the IS 500 F Sport Performance isnt exactly affordable but considering that it is almost as much power as a base M3 in the price of a Mercedes-AMG C43, the IS 500 seems like a steal.
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Old 09-13-2021, 12:11 PM   #80
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At $57,575 including destination, the IS 500 F Sport Performance isn't exactly affordable but considering that it is almost as much power as a base M3 in the price of a Mercedes-AMG C43, the IS 500 seems like a steal.
I suppose it depends on what your goals are. If you want a daily driver that has a soft ride, like old tech, and sounds amazing it's for you. If you want something that is very fast and can be driven on the track there are much better options at lower prices. I understand what the appeal of the car is but that is a dog slow 1/4 mile time at this price in today's age of cars.

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1/4-Mile: 12.8 sec @ 112 mph
The Supra 3.0 (1/4 mile: 12.1 sec @ 117 mph) Mustang GT, Camaro LT1, and I would expect the Nissan Z will leave this for dead.

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Old 09-13-2021, 04:52 PM   #81
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This thing should be fully loaded at 57.5k, past 60 is hard to justify vs an M340i.
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Old 09-13-2021, 04:57 PM   #82
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The Supra 3.0 (1/4 mile: 12.1 sec @ 117 mph) Mustang GT, Camaro LT1, and I would expect the Nissan Z will leave this for dead.
Those are the wrong competition for this car though. All those cars are effectively two seaters.

The IS500 competes against the following:

Genesis G70
Kia Stinger
Acura TLX Type S
Audi S4
BMW M340i
Cadillac CT5-V (non-Blackwing)
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Old 09-13-2021, 05:44 PM   #83
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This thing should be fully loaded at 57.5k, past 60 is hard to justify vs an M340i.
Agreed, but but but NA V8

The tranny on the BMW is better fo sho and likely the brakes and likely the suspension.
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Old 09-13-2021, 05:55 PM   #84
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Those are the wrong competition for this car though. All those cars are effectively two seaters.

The IS500 competes against the following:

Genesis G70
Kia Stinger
Acura TLX Type S
Audi S4
BMW M340i
Cadillac CT5-V (non-Blackwing)
Drove a Stinger recently, wasn't impressed. Not a fan of current BMWs either. Cadillac would be probably vetter compared to the CT4-V. S4 I wouldn't consider.

I would buy the IS500 over all those for sure, none of those really have a stand out driving experience that would surpass the Lexus's engine.
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Old 09-13-2021, 06:10 PM   #85
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Drove a Stinger recently, wasn't impressed. Not a fan of current BMWs either. Cadillac would be probably vetter compared to the CT4-V. S4 I wouldn't consider.

I would buy the IS500 over all those for sure, none of those really have a stand out driving experience that would surpass the Lexus's engine.
me too, Id actually take the IS500 out of all those.

The only cars I can think Id rather have are more expensive (CT4 Blackwing 6mT), or different class (next gen Type R), M2c, or Mustang Mach 1.
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Drove a Stinger recently, wasn't impressed. Not a fan of current BMWs either. Cadillac would be probably vetter compared to the CT4-V. S4 I wouldn't consider.

I would buy the IS500 over all those for sure, none of those really have a stand out driving experience that would surpass the Lexus's engine.
Yeah if I had 60K-ish the IS500 would be at the top of my list as well. Mainly for the engine and Lexus reliability.

I went with the Stinger since I'm "poor" lol. The mid to upper $40K was my limit. The driving dynamics are reportedly the worst out of that list but it's good enough for me. Plus its a great jack-of-all trades car. Plus the warranty since I won't be doing any serious mods (maybe sway bars and brakes), if at all.

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me too, I'd actually take the IS500 out of all those.

The only cars I can think I'd rather have are more expensive (CT4 Blackwing 6mT), or different class (next gen Type R), M2c, or Mustang Mach 1.
For me it would depend if the IS500 is my fun car, or my daily.

If I'm shopping fun cars I wouldn't bother with it. I'd do Mustang or Camaro, or do slow car fast with a BRZ.

If it's my daily then yeah I'd be looking at IS500 first, followed by Cadillac CT5-V and Genesis G70. But again, that's assuming I can drop 60K on the car.
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I suppose it depends on what your goals are. If you want a daily driver that has a soft ride, like old tech, and sounds amazing it's for you. If you want something that is very fast and can be driven on the track there are much better options at lower prices. I understand what the appeal of the car is but that is a dog slow 1/4 mile time at this price in today's age of cars.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/



The Supra 3.0 (1/4 mile: 12.1 sec @ 117 mph) Mustang GT, Camaro LT1, and I would expect the Nissan Z will leave this for dead.
Lexus driver sips his champagne and smirks in apathy. mutters..."peasants"
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this is a sublime GT car, not a track monster. I would love to hear the roar of a V8 in something that does not have a dodge badge on it.
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this is a sublime GT car, not a track monster. I would love to hear the roar of a V8 in something that does not have a dodge badge on it.
Yeah this sums it up well for me.

The sound of the V8 you can enjoy every second you're in the car. It also looks great and won't be pissing equity every mile like a dodge.
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The whole car is outdated esp. the interior. Bandaids on an old chassis to meet crash, ride quality handling and the V8. Pluses are the V-8 and it's Lexus. It's a poor choice at 65k (that's what it be at dealer, ordering ehh with chip shortage not going to happen). Buy a Vette, no back seat who cares. New Cadillac too.
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