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Old 08-05-2001, 12:12 AM   #1
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I would like to direct wire a valentine one detector. The directions says I can tap into any 12 volt wire that
that becomes active when the car is turned on (amperage is not mentioned) . Any suggestions? Does the radio on/off switch meet that requirement? If so what color wire ? Would the dome light work for this?

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Old 08-05-2001, 12:38 AM   #2
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I wired mine to the extra hot wire for the electrochromatic mirror/compass that is accessible once you drop the map lights. You can feed the wire for your radar detector through the headliner and splice it in. Use one of the screws that hold the maplight in place for a ground. There's a great tutorial posted on one of the other forums (clubwrx.com?). It's got pics and step by step instructions if you need them.

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Old 08-05-2001, 01:46 PM   #3
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Thanks for that info. If i had done a search on " Valentine" I would have found this topic on this web site..I should know better. Anyway thanks, the web link from that search is down right now but i will check it out later.
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Old 08-05-2001, 07:32 PM   #4
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Dude, I totally did that this afternoon! Installed my V1 into the dome light (technically power comes from the sunroof cuz the dome lights work when the car is off).
It's freegin sexy. I have some pictures I'm uploading now. Very clean install if I do say so myself.

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Old 08-05-2001, 08:50 PM   #5
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Wow, that is a super clean install. Very well done!
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Old 08-05-2001, 09:33 PM   #6
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the dome light is not a circuit that operates only with the car turned on. You can usually tap into the cigarette lighter circuit or the stereo circuit. Behind the stereo it will usually be the yellow wire that is triggered with the car turned on, but if you run your cable around the left side of the roof/windshield (tuck behind trim) you can route down to your fuse box and easily choose any circuit you want. Just stick the positive bare wire into the fuse jack and plug the fuse into it then clamp the negative wire under a bolt that is grounded and you'll be set to go.

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Old 08-06-2001, 06:00 PM   #7
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Exclamation why I won't direct-wire my detector...

Just in case some of you aren't aware of this, radar detectors do not make you invincible. I learned this the hard way once, by topping a hill and being hit with instant-on. My detector went off, but it was way too late for me to do anything about it.

In this situation, if you get pulled over and the cop sees the radar detector, he WILL give you a ticket. Having a radar detector instantly eliminates any chance you had at getting off with a warning. And having a hard-wired radar detector means that if you see a smokey on your tail, you can't pop it off the window and stow it in the glove compartment like I did.

Something to keep in mind when you're thinking of hard-wiring your detector...
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Old 08-07-2001, 12:29 PM   #8
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and why can't I pop it off the window if it's hard-wired?

the mini plug is still just a mini plug and is easly tucked behind the trim in...oh... 3 seconds. the hard-wired detector will still come off the window just as easily as a lighter-plugged detector. Besides, you have more to worry about with the spots the suction cups left on the windshield than the wire being visible. Guess you just need a V1 or some other detector with the visor clip instead of suction cups.
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Old 08-07-2001, 06:30 PM   #9
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How does a K40 compare to the V1? At least it would be built into the car.......
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Old 08-08-2001, 12:14 AM   #10
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Thanks everyone you have really helped a lot.
Wonko You make a very good point about the limitations of radar detectors. I think most of us who have used them over a number of years know their limitations. Hard wiring a detector actually makes the detector less visible because it minimizes the presence of wires which are often clearly visible from a passing car. As was mentioned , hard wiring does not alter the ability to be quickly remove the detector out of the way. One final thing I wanted to mention was that I do not use the detector to speed. I drive the same speed whether I use the detector or not . I live in a small town with to many police. If you saw the local diner in the morning you would be led to believe there is some sort of siege going on. There are small towns nearby were you will get a ticket for going 36 in a 35 mile an hour zone. Their primary source of revenue other than property tax. I use the detector to let me know the police are around. I am a law abiding citizen but have long given up the notion that police will always be fair.
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Old 08-08-2001, 01:50 AM   #11
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In this situation, if you get pulled over and the cop sees the radar detector, he WILL give you a ticket. Having a radar detector instantly eliminates any chance you had at getting off with a warning. And having a hard-wired radar detector means that if you see a smokey on your tail, you can't pop it off the window and stow it in the glove compartment like I did.
I thought I was the only one who did this. I had my radar go off, and I knew I was busted. I was doing about 72 is a 55, and whizzed by the cop so it gave me 30 seconds to pop the radar off the windshield, unplug it and throw it under the passenger seat.

I got off with a warning, and the cop even said 'nice car' as he walked off.

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Old 08-08-2001, 04:52 PM   #12
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Here's a link to install instructions with nice pictures:

http://www.northursalia.com/modifica...dar/radar.html

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Old 08-15-2001, 03:47 PM   #13
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Bumping this with a thanks to all of you who posted instructions on hardwiring the V1 to the compass mirror wires. Just did it; took 15 minutes, and it works like a charm. Excellent advice, guys.

(And thank you Subaru for giving those of us with the low-tech mirror a use for those wires. )
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Old 08-16-2001, 01:05 PM   #14
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If you hook up the detector to the compass mirror wires, do you have to make a point of turning the detector off when you leave the car?

I have a V1 on my motorcycle and I initially installed it to any old wire. Then it slowly dawned on me that the detector should be hooked to a switched wire because sooner or later, I was going to forget to turn it off and possibly drain my battery.

I'm going to put another V1 in my car and I'm trying to sort out the best way to install it. I like the mirror compass arrangement but if the unit doesn't turn off when I turn off the ignition, then, I'll grab a wire behind the stereo (won't be as slick looking install, though).
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Old 08-16-2001, 02:25 PM   #15
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Mambo, the compass mirror wires are switched wires; so yes, I leave the V1 hooked up fulltime now (unless I'm parked somewhere where I think there's a theft risk) and there's no power drain when he engine's off. I looks exactly like the pic Sopps posted earlier -- very nice and clean.

I should have noted that the relevent compass wires were the following colors: yellow wire with red stripe for positive, black wire for negative/ground (there was some talk of a blue/purple wire, but mine didn't have it). Also, I cut about eight inches of the V1 direct wire kit's red positive wire away (after the fuse, of course ) because it was much too long. In fact, I could have removed more of both the red and black, but there's plenty of room above the headliner to stuff them and the socket in.

Final note: I actually decided to use the V1's coil power wire (rather than the long straight one) to run from the detector to the power socket (I thought it would move around less since it's shorter). Unfortunately, when flicking the headliner with my finger, I could hear it bouncing (I hate extraneous noises). I cut a few sections of foam from the V1's original box to secure the wire, and it solved the noise/bouncing around problem.

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Old 08-16-2001, 02:37 PM   #16
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Kaiser, thanks for the reply. You've made my life easier by telling me what wires to use. I'm going to cut the power cord to length to minimize the "bounce noise factor." I happen to have a telephone plug cutter-crimp wrench thing (purchased for another project).
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No problem. With one of those phone cord cutter/crimpers the job should be even easier.
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Old 08-16-2001, 06:33 PM   #18
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Be careful reaching up and grabbing your detector when you've been pulled over (esp. at night). It makes them nervous when they see all kinds of movement in the car. I turn on the overhead light and keep my hands on the wheel. They usually comment on the fact that I have a radar detector, then let me off with a warning (8 - 0 record in 5 years!).
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Old 08-16-2001, 07:45 PM   #19
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I did the same kind of install, just wired to the sunroof power wires.



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Old 08-17-2001, 10:37 AM   #20
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Be careful reaching up and grabbing your detector when you've been pulled over (esp. at night). It makes them nervous when they see all kinds of movement in the car. I turn on the overhead light and keep my hands on the wheel. They usually comment on the fact that I have a radar detector, then let me off with a warning (8 - 0 record in 5 years!).
Good advice. I've even taken the keys out and laid them on the dash (while keeping my hands in plain sight). It's also good to let the cop know where your license and reg are before you reach for them. Let's face it, they have enough crap to worry about -- if you get pulled over, suck it up and be polite (easier said than done if you're like me, of course. Zero tickets and only one stop in 10 years...hurts the ego a little ).

And yeah, it's no use trying to pull down the detector at the last second. They'll see the holder or wire anyway.
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Old 08-18-2001, 11:56 AM   #21
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Hmm..the V1 has an inline fuse? I wonder if my Escort 12v lighter plug-in has an integral fuse in the plug?? That would mean a direct wire install would eliminate the fuse. Anyone know for sure?

Thanks and Happy (ticket-free) Motoring
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Old 08-18-2001, 06:43 PM   #22
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A quick tip on sopps' & RS25.com's installs.

Make sure you tap on the red w/white stripe wire that's part of the sunroof switch. Just posting this so others don't have to hunt down the right wire.

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P.S. Just did this mod 5 min. ago. Very easy & painless, except for the 90 deg. weather here in So. Florida.
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Old 08-18-2001, 08:41 PM   #23
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Good tip Wedge, I decided to open up the sunroof switchbox to confirm which wires it was. I regretted popping that sucker open the second I did it. Took several attempts to get it back together in working order, and it's still not perfect. Rats! Don't open the black switchbox!

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