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Old 02-26-2021, 02:45 PM   #51
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Corbet nailed it..
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Old 02-26-2021, 05:32 PM   #52
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I think it's better that it's a IS500 instead of IS-F. Test drove an IS-F and it was very bipolar which made it kind of pointless to me. Most of the time the drivetrain was trying to be luxury car quiet and refined and you could only enjoy the v8 soundtrack if you were aggressive enough to get it in the upper RPMs.

I have a current gen IS and the biggest problem with Toyota/Lexus is the crap electronics calibration. Because of the "unintended acceleration" lawsuits off the line response is tuned to non existent. My car has 3 drive modes and they are all garbage if you compare to what the Germans offer. I gave up and use ECO since it's always going to try to drop into Atkinson cycle anyway for MPG. Same for traction and stability control; no progressive interference, just straight to a limp mode sensation. The 8 speed is decent, but I'll keep yearning for a DCT from the Golf R I test drove that was super quick, crisp, and had telepathic downshifts.

Build quality is impressive and the hardware is good enough: reliable but definitely not class leading by #s which is why you buy Lexus anyway. My car has the 1st refresh chassis updates which were quite extensive. With all the changes made for the 2nd refresh the platform should definitely still be very relevant. Will be interesting to see what type of suspension calibration they give this car.
Man, you're killing my IS500 boner.
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Old 02-26-2021, 06:17 PM   #53
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ThInGs YoU fInD oUt AfTeR oWnInG a CaR fOr A yEaR...
100% agree. With summer tires the nannies are kept at bay at least for most 8/10ths driving.

I've also found the springs too soft for higher speed spirited driving on roads with significant bumps or undulations. Things that don't phase my WRX require some load transfer to "prep" the suspension in the IS. My car has the 2.0T F sport RWD and doesn't have the adaptive dampers the 350 F does.
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Old 02-26-2021, 06:42 PM   #54
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Amen, I wish BMW still sold something like this. If it had a manual it'd be perfect for me. As is I'd much rather have a normally aspirated V8, plus you get Lexus reliability and resale, and the car's not huge.

Between this and the CT4-V 6mT would be a tough call if both are $60k. Love the idea of a manual but a Lexus V8 is so much more awesome than the Chevy TT V6.
That Lexux V8 seems nice; 398 ft.lb at 4800 RPM, 350 ft.lb from 2600 to 7000, 300 ft.lb from 1800 to 7500 RPM.
Not too shabby .
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Old 02-26-2021, 06:58 PM   #55
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Any indication the IS500 will be a limited release or difficult to find in the real world?
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Old 02-26-2021, 06:58 PM   #56
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Man, you're killing my IS500 boner.
I know, but the reviews I've seen on the 2021 IS350 still seem to mention the same issues Sid03SVT and I have encountered. I wouldn't loose all hope but I'd want to be fully informed what the limitations are if purchasing.

I had got an invitation from Lexus for a driving school event this spring at Circuit of the Americas with the RCF so I would assume that model has at least sufficient defeat mechanisms.
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I know, but the reviews I've seen on the 2021 IS350 still seem to mention the same issues Sid03SVT and I have encountered. I wouldn't loose all hope but I'd want to be fully informed what the limitations are if purchasing.

I had got an invitation from Lexus for a driving school event this spring at Circuit of the Americas with the RCF so I would assume that model has at least sufficient defeat mechanisms.
yeah but could be they go under the hood to disable the nannies for an event or for those drifting promotional videos.

I really want my rear drive car to have fully defeatable stability control, or ideally like my 330i had when you defeat just traction control, the nanny will let you go pretty sideways before intervening.
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All of the cars need to have the manettino switch.

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