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Old 10-11-2018, 02:06 PM   #76
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JRowland : Thanks for sharing the info!

I have had this issue since the car was brand new and always got the runaround from the dealer and Subaru corporate on the fix.

I am past the warranty mark and had revised clutch release bearing installed from the original TSB. Looks like thatís only part of the fix now as seems there is a revision for clutch itself and other clutch components including the pedal assembly.

Noise hasnít returned yet and hopefully stays away. Anyone have a PDF copy of 03-79-18R? Would love to see it.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:10 AM   #77
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Had my throw out bearing replaced a couple months ago in my 2016 wrx. Squealing hasn't come back, but right when i picked it noticed the car sounds different on startup and while driving. Can the revised bearing change that at all?
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:27 AM   #78
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I asked 2 weeks ago about the used 2013 wrx limited, but it's already gone WOW.

So I am thinking to get a 2017 wrx premium - this would be my first wrx and subaru - and I found that wrx has a known issue with the TOB. Does 2017 wrx has still that issue?

I know it's up to me but I am wondering how you guys think about the TOB. I really want to ride a wrx but I am kind of hesitating to buy it
Subarus have TOB issues. All of them do.

All this means, though, is that your TOB will start to seize before your clutch disc is fully worn out.

On my 08 WRX where I didn't know about rev matching, my TOB disintegrated (after 2 months of warning me it was going to happen) at about 53k miles. In my 14 BRZ after 3 months of warning, I got my clutch assembly replaced for TOB issues at around 63k miles (I knew how to Rev match and did it as part of my driving habits) and it hadn't disintegrated yet & clutch had about 15% life left.

As long as you don't put another OEM TOB into the car, an aftermarket clutch kit (even stage 1 will be fine as long as it's good quality) won't have the TOB issue.

It's similar to the car not having the best brake pads from the factory. Just let the stock wear out and replace them when it comes starts making noise and you're good.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:50 AM   #79
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And people can't understand why I shift w/o clutch. A hint:do not depress the clutch in while waiting for a light or in stop and go traffic.
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:39 AM   #80
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And people can't understand why I shift w/o clutch. A hint:do not depress the clutch in while waiting for a light or in stop and go traffic.
In my case that didn't matter because I don't. Just saying that because from my experience I did nothing abnormal, I don't baby the car but I'm not out launching it either. When I decided to use the warranty I was happy again that I was still stock and there was no bull**** from the dealer. I was shocked when the tech (not the advisor) told me there was excessive wear at just about 36k. He felt it was directly related to the throwout bearing being hashed. I'm making an educated guess that there is (or was maybe) a design problem, based on years of manual driving without clutch issues and the dealer solution now being a different enough combo of parts that it required a new pedal assembly. You and I both like curvy roads and elevation changes. Until I moved down here we were both racking up the miles pretty quick. I see you still are but I'm riding motorcycles a hell of a lot more now so the car sat for basically spring and summer. Mine started chirping while I was still up in Pittsburgh and the sound never got worse. I'm glad I had it done under warranty, I'd be kicking myself if it **** the bed at 60k which it would have if not before.
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:17 PM   #81
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My anecdote:

2017 Base WRX at ~43k miles

Mine started squeaking all the time. I read that TOB/release bearing failures are common and that there's a TSB out for dealers to install updated TOBs (ones with a cover). The TSB includes vin ranges for the vehicles affected. I only have a few miles on the new bearing/clutch but it's quiet so far.

I'm not okay with buying a brand new car and having to accept that squeaking is normal (it's done the morning squeaking since day one). Plus, since the noise was getting worse, I would assume failure wasn't too far away.

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Old 11-08-2018, 01:35 PM   #82
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The TSB says this only applies to vehicles through VIN H9824973. However, I have a 17 wrx that starts with JF1VA1J62 and mine is squeaking like crazy especially after a rain. So I'm assuming the dealership won't be willing to fix it under this bulletin?
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:36 PM   #83
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The TSB says this only applies to vehicles through VIN H9824973. However, I have a 17 wrx that starts with JF1VA1J62 and mine is squeaking like crazy especially after a rain. So I'm assuming the dealership won't be willing to fix it under this bulletin?
My vin starts with JF1VA1E63 so I'm not sure what you are looking at. There is an updated TSB that I listed the number for in a post in this thread recently. I haven't been able to find it for free but I didn't spend much time either. I told my dealer about the other TSB I was able to find from SubieSpeed (I may not be spelling that right) and that TSB is listed in my post as well. Dealer said it has been replaced with a 2018 TSB and just replaced everything no questions asked. I did state to the advisor when I set the initial appointment exactly the symptoms stated in the TSB. They let it sit over the weekend and heard the same chirping and R&R'd my clutch.

ETA: post #74 one page back.
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Old 11-09-2018, 10:47 AM   #84
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Mine chirps when humid and raining. I'm out of warranty so it'll be on me when it goes. No matter I'd rather do it than have that circus work on it.
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Old 11-27-2018, 11:26 AM   #85
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So maybe someone can educate me or warn me of some potential future issues from doing this, but...

I sort of fixed the chirping from the Clutch ToB. I adjusted the clutch travel so I have less.

My chirping was not intermittent or during certain weather conditions. It started out only doing it when it was cold (engine). Then it only did it when it was warm (engine). Then it did it all the time except for when my clutch was being pushed in.

I removed the gas pedal (2 10mm bolts), but left it wired. There is a metal pole above the gas pedal that goes into your firewall. Almost where you cant see, There is a 12mm nut that needs to be loosened. You can then adjust the metal pole so that more threads go into the U Bracket. This shortens the travel of the clutch. If you have a hard time turning the pole, push the clutch in a bit an ease the tension.
Check by keeping your car off and putting it in gear on a small sloped hill. There should be no grinding. Start your car and ease into movement.

My chirping did not disappear imeediately. It became intermittent at first, but then eased out. Good luck if you try this.

Please someone let me know if I have started a cascade of possible damage.
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Old 11-27-2018, 11:31 AM   #86
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^^^ basically you adjusted the preload/freeplay so is like riding with your foot on the clutch. Good way to prematurely wear the clutch and overheat the bearing to it catastrophicly fails.

Then when the clutch gets replaced; the person doing it wonít know the rods got messed with and will prematurely wear that clutch out too.
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Old 11-27-2018, 11:36 AM   #87
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^^^ basically you adjusted the preload/freeplay so is like riding with your foot on the clutch. Good way to prematurely wear the clutch and overheat the bearing to it catastrophicly fails.

Then when the clutch gets replaced; the person doing it wonít know the rods got messed with and will prematurely wear that clutch out too.
If it's anything like the BRZ clutch height adjustment mod, this mod doesn't do any of that.
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Old 12-15-2018, 04:29 PM   #88
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every time i press it down i hear that annoying squeak and also the chirping form what i assume to be the throw out bearing since it stops every time i step on the clutch any comments on my situation since the dealer don't want to take care of it what should i replace or fix?
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Old 12-15-2018, 04:38 PM   #89
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how much did you pay for it?
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Old 12-15-2018, 04:46 PM   #90
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did everything work out fine at the end?
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:16 PM   #91
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Dealer replaced mine and it came back 2 months later and itís way worse than it was the first time.. it chirps everyday the entire time Iím driving..Unless the clutch is depressed. Debating on new clutch but I heard some say it still makes the noise with an aftermarket clutch kit??
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:54 PM   #92
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can you take it back to the dealer? sometimes they say they install the new version of the bearing, but they just replaced it with the same one. you should do it soon because the transmission snout is aluminum and sometimes when that gets damaged enough there's no new bearing that's gona fix it.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:15 PM   #93
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Dealer replaced mine and it came back 2 months later and itís way worse than it was the first time.. it chirps everyday the entire time Iím driving..Unless the clutch is depressed. Debating on new clutch but I heard some say it still makes the noise with an aftermarket clutch kit??
That sucks, I hated the TOB noise in mine. Along with all the issues and the useless dealer and Subaru corporate, I got rid of it. No more noises and issues.

If you check the paper work, see if the TOB that was put in was part number 30502AA160. If not, get the A120 replaced with the new one under warranty if possible.
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:07 AM   #94
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That sucks, I hated the TOB noise in mine. Along with all the issues and the useless dealer and Subaru corporate, I got rid of it. No more noises and issues.



If you check the paper work, see if the TOB that was put in was part number 30502AA160. If not, get the A120 replaced with the new one under warranty if possible.


I went stage 2 after I had it replaced. Iím thinking just going aftermarket now.
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